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Seanny One Ball 05-09-2020 04:49 PM

Bret Or Shawn?
 
Who did you prefer?

Bret by a fucking mile.

Seanny One Ball 05-09-2020 04:53 PM

If my last few years of reading any and all wrestling history have taught me anything, it's that Bret is the wrestlers pick in terms of skill but as a pure spectacle Shawn had much more to offer.

I don't care, Bret Hart had better matches more regularly.
Shawn Michaels is credited as some sort of genius but he never made anyone look good. That is a myth.

Bad News Gertner 05-09-2020 05:27 PM

Shawn Michaels over Canadian Jeff Jarrett

Seanny One Ball 05-09-2020 06:04 PM

Jeff Jarrett is also better than Shawn Michaels.

teamXtremist 05-09-2020 06:08 PM

Always choose bret

Curtis 05-09-2020 06:20 PM

I'm gonna say we let Scott Steiner decide,

He is after all, a man who has wrestled a lot of countries.

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Tough call here. On one hand we have the king of Mexico North and on the other, Shawn Michaels who should compete for the intergender intercontinental championship and wrestles women.

Tough call, I'm gonna have to go with the big bad booty daddy Scott Steiner.

Sepholio 05-09-2020 06:25 PM

Shawn for me. Always found Bret to be boring.

Jericho is better than both of them though.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-09-2020 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman King Gertner (Post 5343257)
Shawn Michaels over Canadian Jeff Jarrett

I know what you're doing, you fuck.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-09-2020 06:50 PM

People who don't appreciate Bret probably prefer Michael Bay-style films over the Godfather.

Seanny One Ball 05-09-2020 06:52 PM

Atta boy

Seanny One Ball 05-09-2020 06:54 PM

Shawn Michaels has no believable matches beyond Bret Hart or his tag career.
Every other match is just watching him Bury everyone, even their finishers.

If you spring up after 5 seconds on an outside powerbomb, it ruins Sid.

Seanny One Ball 05-09-2020 06:55 PM

And he's a piece of shit

BobbyHeenanJR 05-09-2020 06:57 PM

Bret Hart's father was to my father as Bret Hart was to me.

Completely unrelated.

But what a technician!

McLegend 05-09-2020 06:59 PM

I love Bret Hart.

Shawn Michaels is better all around though. Especially when you look at HBK when he came back from his injury. He was able to evolve and grow despite his physical setbacks.

So maybe pre WM 14 you go Bret(maybe). HBK second part of his career separates him from Bret and other wrestlers as well.

Seanny One Ball 05-09-2020 07:14 PM

Why, Shawn Michaels never even had a good match

Seanny One Ball 05-09-2020 07:14 PM

Bitch

Mr. Nerfect 05-09-2020 07:28 PM

I've grown to really love Bret Hart. Maybe that fresher appreciation is what pushes him over for me? Shawn probably had the better spikes, but I just think of Bret being more consistent. Dunno.

Bad News Gertner 05-09-2020 07:31 PM

Bret is the human sleeping pill. He's the Canadian Jeff Jarrett because he's a giant bore who wasn't a draw, had boring matches and was the best of a bad situation like Jeff was in WCW 2000.

Realistically Bret is like a Steve Blackman level of wrestler. Nice opening match guy, good hand in the ring who warms the crowd up for the actual talent.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-09-2020 08:28 PM

Sir.

slik 05-09-2020 09:12 PM

HBK is a better wrestler and better on the mic.

xrodmuc316 05-09-2020 09:36 PM

I get the debate on in ring ability. But Shawn on the mic by a lot, no comparison there.

Shawn gets the win because of that easily in my book.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-09-2020 09:44 PM

he wasn't really that great on the mic.

teamXtremist 05-09-2020 09:49 PM

Bret was great as a heel and far superior in ring worker. Shawn has more personality and better seller

Sepholio 05-09-2020 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman King Gertner (Post 5343296)
Bret is the human sleeping pill. He's the Canadian Jeff Jarrett because he's a giant bore who wasn't a draw, had boring matches and was the best of a bad situation like Jeff was in WCW 2000.

Realistically Bret is like a Steve Blackman level of wrestler. Nice opening match guy, good hand in the ring who warms the crowd up for the actual talent.

Quoted for the truth.

teamXtremist 05-09-2020 10:00 PM

On the mic, hbk is just entertaining, not the best, but always fun to watch. Is he the GOAT in general? probably not, but he is, no doubt, the most entertaining wrestling figure in a while

Bad News Gertner 05-09-2020 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph (Post 5343324)
Quoted for the truth.

See Dale, I'm only saying what's painfully obvious.

Emperor Smeat 05-09-2020 10:27 PM

HBK and mainly because that 2nd run he had catapulted him from being very good to all-time great status.

Take away that 2nd run and I'd lean a lot more towards Bret between the two.

Seanny One Ball 05-09-2020 11:17 PM

Shawn Michaels is a druggo

Lock Jaw 05-09-2020 11:31 PM

I'm beginning to doubt Gertner is Canadian.

Droford 05-10-2020 12:02 AM

HBK

teamXtremist 05-10-2020 01:03 AM

True story

Me and my hs friend went to church a few times with hbk down in san antone. Hes a really cool guy but pushes the bible stuff pretty hard

GD 05-10-2020 02:08 AM

God is in his tag team partner, brother brother.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-10-2020 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teamXtremist (Post 5343322)
Bret was great as a heel and far superior in ring worker. Shawn has more personality and better seller

Bret was one of the best sellers of all time - way better than Shawn in that regard. That is the one thing everybody talks about when bringing up Bret's work.

James Steele 05-10-2020 08:58 AM

Shawn Michaels and it isn’t even close. HBK’s run from 2002-2010 alone is better than all of Bret’s career.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-10-2020 09:07 AM

the words of someone with poor taste.

XL 05-10-2020 09:17 AM

I was a HUUUUUGE Bret mark as a kid, and missed the ascension of HBK to main eventer as I stopped watching/following in ‘95, but objectively Michaels is better/has had the better career.

If his career ended in ‘98 it could be a different story, but that second run gets him over the line.

drave 05-10-2020 09:21 AM

Bret screwed Bret

Bad News Gertner 05-10-2020 09:46 AM

Remember that time Bret beat Shawn at Wreatlemania?

Oh wait he didn't.

HBK>Bret

drave 05-10-2020 09:59 AM

Honestly one of my most memorable Bret Hart feuds was with Jerry Lawler. Lawler was too god damn funny through it all and honestly made the feud worthwhile.


Lawler > Hart

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-10-2020 10:03 AM

I mean you can argue Lawler is better than both Michaels and Hart.


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