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IC Champion 12-03-2020 10:13 AM

Is Chris Jericho shot?
 
Maybe it’s his age, or maybe it’s the mass that he’s recently added but he just looks like he’s in slow motion out there and has a hard time getting into and out of any sort of exchange. Kaz could barely put the walls of Jericho on him on the most recent dynamite, I dunno. What say you?

fundiddle 12-03-2020 10:27 AM

he looks like he drinks a lot and plays golf

IC Champion 12-03-2020 10:38 AM

I do believe Jericho treats vodka like it’s water, which is admirable in my books.

Lock Jaw 12-03-2020 11:16 AM

All I know is that before I stopped watching AEW, I was literally fast forwarding the whole show and only watching the segments/matches that involved Chris Jericho.

RP 12-03-2020 11:56 AM

The guy is just fat. He needs to lose weight. Someone on here said he gained weight on purpose because he wanted to look like some old school Japan heavyweight. It was a bad choice for sure. Jericho looked blown up last night after that match. But to be fair, Kazarian looked like shit.

Sixx 12-03-2020 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by fundiddle (Post 5396865)
he looks like he drinks a lot and plays golf

Hopefully one day he gets so hammered, he mistakes the outfits. We get the pyro, darkness, golf Club and a kilt and they get his armless spandex.

IC Champion 12-03-2020 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5396886)
All I know is that before I stopped watching AEW, I was literally fast forwarding the whole show and only watching the segments/matches that involved Chris Jericho.

Don’t get me wrong, I’ve enjoyed most of the segments that Jericho is in, and didn’t mind his in ring work early on in AEW, but he’s just looking laboured out there now. I feel like he’s blown up after 7 minutes.

That being said, again, his promos/skits are generally entertaining as hell.

IC Champion 12-03-2020 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RP (Post 5396908)
The guy is just fat. He needs to lose weight. Someone on here said he gained weight on purpose because he wanted to look like some old school Japan heavyweight. It was a bad choice for sure. Jericho looked blown up last night after that match. But to be fair, Kazarian looked like shit.

I agree, it’s doing him no favours, and it’s not like he’s suddenly working a power/strong style either. He should definitely work more like a brawler/savvy veteran and probably avoid hitting the ropes or leaving his feet as much as he possibly can.

Triple A 12-03-2020 04:14 PM

He is still def one of my fav guys in AEW (especially on the mic) but def seems very slow in the ring and every time he kicks out it looks like shit

Mr. Nerfect 12-03-2020 04:19 PM

Yes, he’s a later-life crisis having alcoholic. I’ll always be grateful for what he did for Tazz Dan, but he’s producing bullshit content that goes against his own professional philosophy now.

IC Champion 12-03-2020 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5397031)
Yes, he’s a later-life crisis having alcoholic. I’ll always be grateful for what he did for Tazz Dan, but he’s producing bullshit content that goes against his own professional philosophy now.

Has Jericho not always been a drinker? And what’s this about Tazz Dan?

Curtis 12-03-2020 05:06 PM

It doesnt matter if Chris Jericho is shot or not.
Chris Jericho could come down to the ring, lay down farting and talk about his favorite drinks while counting a jar of peanuts and would still be more entertaining than 80% of wrestlers out there.

IC Champion 12-03-2020 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Curtis (Post 5397053)
It doesnt matter if Chris Jericho is shot or not.
Chris Jericho could come down to the ring, lay down farting and talk about his favorite drinks while counting a jar of peanuts and would still be more entertaining than 80% of wrestlers out there.

That’s not what I asked, jerk.

Jordan 12-03-2020 06:30 PM

His physical condition fluctuates weekly. You can tell when he's been drinking a lot vs when he cares and actually trains. This week he looked really bad. I think it's likely he's been appearing on Dynamite intoxicated at least a few times as well. Or he has a reoccurring case of pink eye(s). He is definitely at the end of his road IMO.

screech 12-03-2020 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 5397029)
He is still def one of my fav guys in AEW (especially on the mic) but def seems very slow in the ring and every time he kicks out it looks like shit

I noticed his slow-ass kickouts after you said something in the dynamite thread. Looked really bad last night.

Destor 12-03-2020 07:17 PM

he's really out of shape. if he got into ring shape i bet he could still go but its not like AEW is is requiring him to put any work in so its not going to change

Damian Rey 2.0 12-03-2020 07:23 PM

As a former fat person, I can tell you trying to get up from being flat on your back is one helluva task.

Jericho just looks really fucking bloated. He looked best in the early 2000s. Looked a lot smaller when he started making his regular returns in WWE. And now he just looks fucking fat. Wish he'd drop like 20 lbs. Think it would make his matches better.

Bad News Gertner 12-03-2020 10:20 PM

He's basically getting to do whatever he wants so I doubt that's gonna change and I'm guessing Tony Khan isn't about to tell him to drop some lbs

Kenny Powers 12-03-2020 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Instant Classic (Post 5396851)
Maybe it’s his age, or maybe it’s the mass that he’s recently added but he just looks like he’s in slow motion out there and has a hard time getting into and out of any sort of exchange. Kaz could barely put the walls of Jericho on him on the most recent dynamite, I dunno. What say you?

What do you expect?! Chris Jericho is 50 years old. You pretty much answered your own question. On the plus side however, you increased your overall post count and so there's that I guess.

Damian Rey 2.0 12-04-2020 03:52 AM

Dustin Rhodes is 51 and he's still putting on good matches and moving well despite debuting over 30 years ago. The difference here is that Dustin has obviously put a focus on taking care of himself and staying fit and Jericho doesn't.

Kenny Powers 12-04-2020 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 5397216)
Dustin Rhodes is 51 and he's still putting on good matches and moving well despite debuting over 30 years ago. The difference here is that Dustin has obviously put a focus on taking care of himself and staying fit and Jericho doesn't.

You do make a good point about Dustin Rhodes. Al Snow and Billy Gunn are going pretty strong as well apparently.

Evil Vito 12-04-2020 09:09 AM

I understand why Jericho originally wanted to go for the barrel gut look for his return to Japan. But it's one thing to do it when you show up for a couple matches a year, it's another when you're on TV every week.

Once AEW got their TV deal, he should've at least gotten back into the shape he was in for his 2016/17 WWE run. AEW should've told him to do it, but even without that it's a mark against him that he doesn't have the motivation.

Maluco 12-04-2020 10:02 AM

There are shoot interviews with him online from 2018-2019 and he looks half the age he does now. He is bloated in the face and just looks so unhealthy.

He is such a smart mind for the business. You would think he would have the sense to see that of new fans turn over and see Jericho in that state, they will immediately think he is past it. He wouldn’t be allowed on WWE TV looking like that. Presentation makes such a big difference.

Jordan 12-04-2020 10:44 AM

Let's all be honest and clear. Jericho nor anyone would ever actually want to look the way he did when he went to Japan. He obviously looked in the mirror at his fat body and said "I can make this work". There is no way he decided to get fat to evolve his character.

Evil Vito 12-04-2020 11:22 AM

Cultivating mass.

IC Champion 12-04-2020 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5397288)
Cultivating mass.

Time to harvest the mass.

M-A-G 12-04-2020 12:19 PM

I haven't watched wrestling of any kind for almost five years so I have no evolution to gauge but when I saw him on Dark Side of the Ring it was pretty jarring.

Mr. Nerfect 12-04-2020 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5397280)
Let's all be honest and clear. Jericho nor anyone would ever actually want to look the way he did when he went to Japan. He obviously looked in the mirror at his fat body and said "I can make this work". There is no way he decided to get fat to evolve his character.

Lol, yeah. Jericho was lying through his teeth when he said that. He’s got a problem and he’s masking it.

Seanny One Ball 12-04-2020 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5397280)
Let's all be honest and clear. Jericho nor anyone would ever actually want to look the way he did when he went to Japan. He obviously looked in the mirror at his fat body and said "I can make this work". There is no way he decided to get fat to evolve his character.



Waited all thread for this post.
I dunno what you guys are smoking but this is the reality behind the bollocks.

Mr. Nerfect 12-04-2020 01:48 PM

I just hope Jericho’s story doesn’t end up in tragedy at this point. We all laugh at the decline, but the dude has had a life and a career. People suck up to him as he clearly gets too drunk and runs his mouth on Twitter. Functional addicts have this way of making themselves appear to be in control when they’re really not. Finding a job where he can do whatever he wants probably enables that.

xrodmuc316 12-05-2020 11:31 AM

Anybody remember when Chris Jericho got drunk and went on Twitter to call of all people Brock Lesnar fat?

That was a whoopsie!

Ol Dirty Dastard 12-05-2020 11:41 AM

If he got back into better shape, I think he can finish strong.

Of course, age limitations will prevent him from performing like he did in his prime. But he can do the wildman brawling pretty good--just needs to be in better shape.

IC Champion 12-05-2020 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5397377)
I just hope Jericho’s story doesn’t end up in tragedy at this point. We all laugh at the decline, but the dude has had a life and a career. People suck up to him as he clearly gets too drunk and runs his mouth on Twitter. Functional addicts have this way of making themselves appear to be in control when they’re really not. Finding a job where he can do whatever he wants probably enables that.

A lot of this makes sense, and paints a more clear picture about where he seems to be in his career. I hope he gets his demons under control if all what you say is true.

Damian Rey 2.0 12-05-2020 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5397846)
If he got back into better shape, I think he can finish strong.

Of course, age limitations will prevent him from performing like he did in his prime. But he can do the wildman brawling pretty good--just needs to be in better shape.

Has anybody heard about what AEW'sc drug testing policy is like? Reason I ask is, being middle aged, Jericho can prob get some medically administered testosterone to help him get back in good to great shape.

Sixx 12-05-2020 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by fundiddle (Post 5396865)
he looks like he drinks a lot and plays golf

Yeah, he gets the Honorary Pole award.

rez 12-05-2020 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5397377)
I just hope Jericho’s story doesn’t end up in tragedy at this point. We all laugh at the decline, but the dude has had a life and a career. People suck up to him as he clearly gets too drunk and runs his mouth on Twitter. Functional addicts have this way of making themselves appear to be in control when they’re really not. Finding a job where he can do whatever he wants probably enables that.

We hope you aren't really a Necrophiliac

Mr. Nerfect 12-07-2020 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5397845)
Anybody remember when Chris Jericho got drunk and went on Twitter to call of all people Brock Lesnar fat?

That was a whoopsie!

Holy shit, that's right.

What's Jericho doing at Wrestle Kingdom next year? You know, since he put on the weight for them.

Tom Guycott 12-08-2020 12:49 AM

What makes it worse is that everyone could basically watch this happen in real time, chronicled week on week, since the dawn of AEW he has gotten fatter and slower and sloppier in the ring. Made more poignant by the fact that, in both gimmick in WWE and for-real interview, said he doesn't want to be someone who's past his prime and hangs on just too long and starts tarnishing himself.

He is actually living the lyrics to Judas.

Jericho's fall is either tragically sad to watch or the makings of the greatest long con ever for the king of re-invention. Pretty sure he's not doing this on purpose, and he's just stopped giving a fuck and is content so skate by on what's left of his name and Fozzy money.

However, let's say the Inner Circle breaks up, then Chris "takes a break" and then comes back in a few months in shape and with better cardio for his "Steamboat run" and career swan song, I think that would be a very interesting development. We shall see.

Side note on Inner Circle... something deep down tells me this was something sniped from Shawn Spears after that inital sit-down where Tully appeared. He mentioned the whole "five people" thing, and then, suddenly Jericho gets a five man stable. I have no facts to back me up, but I always got the feeling Inner Circle was supposed to be his group, but he was replaced by Chris for "name value" and/or "veteran status".

Stu Hart 12-08-2020 01:52 AM

If Jericho's heel character is the aging rockstar who still has a brash attitude as he star fades - its genius.

Damian Rey 2.0 12-08-2020 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 5398908)
What makes it worse is that everyone could basically watch this happen in real time, chronicled week on week, since the dawn of AEW he has gotten fatter and slower and sloppier in the ring. Made more poignant by the fact that, in both gimmick in WWE and for-real interview, said he doesn't want to be someone who's past his prime and hangs on just too long and starts tarnishing himself.

He is actually living the lyrics to Judas.

Jericho's fall is either tragically sad to watch or the makings of the greatest long con ever for the king of re-invention. Pretty sure he's not doing this on purpose, and he's just stopped giving a fuck and is content so skate by on what's left of his name and Fozzy money.

However, let's say the Inner Circle breaks up, then Chris "takes a break" and then comes back in a few months in shape and with better cardio for his "Steamboat run" and career swan song, I think that would be a very interesting development. We shall see.

Side note on Inner Circle... something deep down tells me this was something sniped from Shawn Spears after that inital sit-down where Tully appeared. He mentioned the whole "five people" thing, and then, suddenly Jericho gets a five man stable. I have no facts to back me up, but I always got the feeling Inner Circle was supposed to be his group, but he was replaced by Chris for "name value" and/or "veteran status".

I feel likeit's been mentioned somewhere that it was supposed to be a Spears group


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