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Boondock Saint 04-23-2010 01:23 AM

LOL @ the interviewer/ref

.44 Magdalene 04-23-2010 02:01 AM

Everybody else seems to have the wrestling covered--and seeing as Destor's done quite a bit more in the ring than I have, I'll go ahead and keep my two cents out of his way.

That being said, I am an actor certified with the National Forensics League and have competed at the state and regional level. My oratory is a bit rusty since I never competed out of highschool, but I think I could provide a sufficient word or two concerning the promos.

Let me ask: did you write the promos ahead of time? Did you think about what you were going to say prior, or did you speak on the fly? Did you practice at all prior?

There's alot of mumbling, alot of rushing of certain lines and otherwise inconsistent rates, alot of stuttering and dragging. Statements need to be crisp, concise, clear and audible. If you know you're going to be cutting a recorded promo ahead of time, there's no excuse for not practicing--at the very least to keep you from ssstumbling through lines. The interview looks completely on the fly, and you seem to be fumbling for what to say next at times, or searching for words.

The actual promos, on the other hand... ugh. You at least appear to have thought about what you're going to say, but alot of these lines are just terrible. "Somebody just came by and egged your... house." "All these crazy words flying at you~"

I can literally hear the shaking in your voice. There's no reason to be that nervous on a taped promo, you can just tape back over it if you fuck up. Unless you're a natural improviser--and you're clearly not--you need to be writing all of your shit ahead of time. Actually, seriously writing it. Or typing it in Wordpad, I don't really give a shit. Memorize at least the key points, if not the entire thing--a promo's not really that big to begin with, memorizing it shouldn't be hard. Work toward an actual point and build up to it, don't just work from one rehashed wrestling cliche to another. "This is my ring. Mind games. I'm a killer, I'll retard you or whatever. Be afraid and shit." Pick a point and settle on it, and spend the rest of the promo mountaining up to that.

And for God's sake, play a character. Have a fucking personality. You don't sound intimidating or sadistic or smart. You sound like a kid that watches wrestling alot, that's about fucking all. You need to have some sort of driving agenda behind your character. You're jumping from mindgames to music to movies to sex jokes to poop jokes to whatever the hell just seems to pop into your head at the time, and there's no cohesion or drive or centering point. Are you cocky? Are you crazy? Are you just some dude rambling at the camera? Envisioning what sort of wrestler you're attempting to come across can pave the way toward what you should be saying to your opponent. You're sort of all over the place--saying "ain't" in one promo, but then talking about disabling your opponent's ability to do arithmetic. ...And then talking about music in the next promo.

You're all over the place across what, three promos? You don't need a real gimmick or anything, but it is hard to take a promo anything near seriously when you come off as a kid talking shit. You're trying, first and foremost, to convince either your opponent or your audience (or both) that you're going to win your match. You're attempting to influence opinions and change minds. You're attempting to convince. Keep that in mind. Don't just talk to be talking. Alternatively, you're trying to entertain and/or be humorous, in which case, you have alot of work to do because that was pretty bland.

Referencing WWE and TNA and ROH wrestlers and events in your promos = Unprofessional. Makes you sound like a mark, steer away from it. Period. Your fed is your fed. Your fed is all that matters when you're cutting a promo in it. Pretend other feds don't exist.

Like I said, my actual in ring experience is pretty slim (I'm still in training myself), so some of this might be a little skewed and those with more experience at actual promos than myself can feel free to correct me on any of this. I'm just throwing out some general speech advice, and trying to curve it around wrestling. Really, your stuff's sloppy enough that I don't know honestly know where to begin, I'm just sorta pissing in a lake here.

And for fuck's sake, talk to somebody about firing that guy in the blue shirt.

Xero 04-23-2010 02:06 AM

After watching the second promo for about 30 seconds I'm convinced that your "trainers" have never stepped foot outside the backyard.

Don't know why THAT lead me to this conclusion, but yeah.

Indifferent Clox 04-23-2010 02:23 AM

Im being trained at a legit place tmrw i just wanted a little ringtime to start out

Xero 04-23-2010 02:24 AM

Okay, you're bouncing between having 100 hours of in-ring training, to being trained for a day, to going to a "legit" place tomorrow.

Which is it?

.44 Magdalene 04-23-2010 02:35 AM

Nevermind that "a little ringtime" can completely fuck up legitimate training.

Spaff 04-23-2010 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indifferent Clox (Post 3038400)
Im being trained at a legit place tmrw i just wanted a little ringtime to start out

still laughin at it.my god you are the worst backyarder ever,even e mailed the link to some mates and they didn think it was real,didnt think someone would embarrass themselves to that extent.

you my friend are joke of the day



:wave:

Skippord 04-23-2010 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do? (Post 3038151)
One day Destor, you will tell me who you are.

I've been saying he's Chuck Taylor for like 2 years

Ol Dirty Dastard 04-23-2010 09:45 AM

Clox you suck.

HBPunk 04-23-2010 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indifferent Clox (Post 3038068)
the guy didn't give me any moves to bump with (which i am spectacular at bumping by the way). i think i did pretty good. next match will be 15 times better. i doubt anybody could do much better with what i have to work with and what litttle training i;ve had

you are an arrogant asshole aswel as a terrible wrestler, dont post this shit if you dont want criticism. you should give up dude, get an office job and leave the 'lets do some wrestling moves' for drunk nights out. 0/10 :n:

Ol Dirty Dastard 04-23-2010 11:19 AM

"spectacular at bumping' you are such a fag.

HBPunk 04-23-2010 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gorgeous Dale Newstead (Post 3038694)
"spectacular at bumping' you are such a fag.

:y:

Ol Dirty Dastard 04-23-2010 12:09 PM

It's amazing how you suck the dick of ROH and then think you can wrestle after one day of training. You realize the work those guys put in? You even thinking you can go a minute in the ring is disrespectful to the guys whose dicks you suck ALL THE TIME.

HBPunk 04-23-2010 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gorgeous Dale Newstead (Post 3038731)
It's amazing how you suck the dick of ROH and then think you can wrestle after one day of training. You realize the work those guys put in? You even thinking you can go a minute in the ring is disrespectful to the guys whose dicks you suck ALL THE TIME.

You are fucking gorgeous, hit him again Dale. Clox and Clark shud fuck like Billy and Chuck

Haze 04-23-2010 01:06 PM

Dude I'm not just saying this to be a jackass or anything, but I was embarrassed for you as I watched that.

HBPunk 04-23-2010 01:14 PM

HOLY FUCK I JUST ACTUALLY WATCHED IT THERE! Well, I watched up until you performed the 'dropkick' on the almost nude tubby guy anyway, you ran at him, stopped and then fell at him! Fucking hell man, i was better than you when i was 12 and had a tag team ladder match with my mates. This is surely a joke right?? If you were trained, which i highly doubt, id say it was no more than an hour and your trainer was probably Zach Gowan or a highly skilled glass bottle. Pathetic, awful, embarrassing, you are a LOSER in every way

SOCCER LEGS 04-23-2010 01:16 PM

this is so sad/pathetic/hilarious/retarded on so many levels.

how bout before trying to "wrestle" you get the fuck in shape first? maybe start by gaining about 80 pounds so your moves would have maybe an ounce of credibility to them? a scrawny, nonathletic little shit like you has no place in the wrestling world.

kareru 04-23-2010 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SOCCER LEGS (Post 3038804)
this is so sad/pathetic/hilarious/retarded on so many levels.

how bout before trying to "wrestle" you get the fuck in shape first? maybe start by gaining about 80 pounds so your moves would have maybe an ounce of credibility to them? a scrawny, nonathletic little shit like you has no place in the wrestling world.

how are you mr mcmahon? would you be so kind into giving us the 'scoop' on who is been FE'd next

HBPunk 04-23-2010 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kareru (Post 3038807)
how are you mr mcmahon? would you be so kind into giving us the 'scoop' on who is been FE'd next

arsehole.

was that you in the video in the little black thong? bet it was

kareru 04-23-2010 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HBPunk (Post 3038818)
arsehole.

was that you in the video in the little black thong? bet it was

no, i always wear crotchless chaps to the ring

HBPunk 04-23-2010 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kareru (Post 3038822)
no, i always wear crotchless chaps to the ring (the male anal passage version)

I dont doubt it gimpy

Jordan 04-23-2010 01:33 PM

This is fucking hilarious. The guy in the short tights trained you? Hahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaah

kareru 04-23-2010 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HBPunk (Post 3038827)
I dont doubt it gimpy

i lost the gimp suit gimmick in 2004, im glad you remembered it though

Jordan 04-23-2010 01:33 PM

The crowd made it work though

HBPunk 04-23-2010 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kareru (Post 3038835)
i lost the gimp suit gimmick in 2004, im glad you remembered it though

to class this as a 'comeback' would be too cruel to 'i know you are but what am i'


0/10
must do better

Jordan 04-23-2010 01:36 PM

LOL "The Natural Way" there is NOTHING natural about this shit nothing

kareru 04-23-2010 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HBPunk (Post 3038839)
(generic insult)
(generic gay joke)
(optional surly extra insult)



Jordan 04-23-2010 01:40 PM

The fact that this guy posts here makes me not want too anymore.

HBPunk 04-23-2010 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kareru (Post 3038835)
self deprecating statement
self deprecating statement
self deprecating statement

Also what you said is incorrect, heres your gay joke since i missed it. I once saw 2 guys kissing in the park and that was the gayest thing id seen til i met you.You are a fag

Swiss Ultimate 04-23-2010 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indifferent Clox (Post 3038018)
Ok but it's a first match. after being in the ring for a day.

Now i have been taking bumps and selling for a while. I've been doing out of ring trainging with guys for a bit, but this was the first time i actually got in a ring. I know how to run the ropes. but I am having a second match tomorrow night which shoud be better. keep in mind we barely talked in the ring.

Most people don't get their first match until they've trained for months. I would like for you to pay a real wrestling school to train you. I know it's expensive but, damn it, it's worth it.

kareru 04-23-2010 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HBPunk (Post 3038857)
Also what you said is incorrect, heres your gay joke since i missed it. I once saw 2 guys kissing in the park and that was the gayest thing id seen til i met you.You are a fag

i thought looking at your daddy lumber over you in the missionary position when you were 12 was the gayest thing you have ever seen

did he say
"shhh! quiet richard, don't tell your mother and if you do i'll tell her that you came onto me"

HBPunk 04-23-2010 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kareru (Post 3038863)
i thought looking at your daddy lumber over you in the missionary position when you were 12 was the gayest thing you have ever seen

did he say
"shhh! quiet richard, don't tell your mother and if you do i'll tell her that you came onto me"

that night was romantic, not gay. so the park thing and then you is what i pick

HBPunk 04-23-2010 01:55 PM

he'd call me chris too probly

kareru 04-23-2010 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HBPunk (Post 3038872)
that night was romantic, not gay. so the park thing and then you is what i pick

it was only romantic until after he came and stuck a straw up your ass, sucked the cum out and then gave you a snowball, then it became gay

HBPunk 04-23-2010 02:01 PM

so you are 11 then? aww so cute. I hope you get to kiss a girl or boy someday before you die, chin up hun

tjmidnight420 04-23-2010 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HBPunk (Post 3038857)
Also what you said is incorrect, heres your gay joke since i missed it. I once saw 2 guys kissing in the park and that was the gayest thing id seen til i met you.You are a fag

As someone else said in another thread: There's no closet here. You're either gay and you should quit knocking em, or your straight and you're a homophobe. Don't try so damn hard to be both.

kareru 04-23-2010 02:03 PM

to quote you..


Quote:

Originally Posted by HBPunk (Post 3038839)
to class this as a 'comeback' would be too cruel to 'i know you are but what am i'


0/10
must do better


Rammsteinmad 04-23-2010 02:06 PM

I'm not gonna criticise IC badly or nothing, but just gonna echo most peoples comments about getting some serious training done about the basics before you start any spots.

When I started training it was nothing but basics for a good month or two, with the only spots being small sequences involving basic moves like shoulder tackles, armdrags, hip-toss etc. We did start doing things like the Suplex and Body Slam pretty early on, but again nothing too flashy or dangerous.

Don't wanna be harsh or nothing, but that video was pretty embarassing to watch. Like others have said, forget about 'matches' and focus on basic moves. Everything else will come together in time.

HBPunk 04-23-2010 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjmidnight420 (Post 3038894)
As someone else said in another thread: There's no closet here. You're either gay and you should quit knocking em, or your straight and you're a homophobe. Don't try so damn hard to be both.

Im straight and i pull the piss of everybody for everything so your attempt at a Barney Stinsonism has failed

HBPunk 04-23-2010 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kareru (Post 3038896)
to quote you..

0/200 this time


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