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Mr. JL 04-11-2023 02:24 AM

Edge defeating "The Demon" Finn Balor
 
Great match; wrong outcome.

What the fuck does a victory do for Edge? Make him more of a Hall of Famer?

A victory for "The Demon" Finn Balor over Edge in the Hell in a Cell could have possibly ignited Finn and put everyone on notice.

But he goes down to a 50 year old triple neck fusion Edge and Finn will continue to whimper on by even though he's supposed to be the leader of Judgment Day. His Demon persona now meaning less. Why even bring the Demon into it if you are just going to have him job out? Could have accomplished that with just Finn and Edge could have gotten the retribution.

Just stupid booking.

Utter. Fucking. Stupid. Booking.

Mr. Nerfect 04-11-2023 04:09 AM

I’m not really into what Edge is doing, but Balor is the weakest member of Judgment Day. Edge going over keeps him protected for when he does put someone over. He’s only done a couple of jobs since being back, and that’s probably the right thing. Balor also beat Edge earlier. The face winning in the end makes sense.

Sepholio 04-11-2023 09:58 AM

Balor was also injured, and I don't mean the cut. He wrestled that match with a torn calf.

Loose Cannon 04-11-2023 12:40 PM

normally I'd agree here, but WWE has a decision to make with Judgement Day. Balor really is the weakest member of the group even though he is the leader. I would say Dom is the hottest guy in Judgement Day. I hate repeating storylines right away, but they kind of have to give Dom the ball and make him the leader and kick Finn out.

And the feud with Edge had to come to a close at Mania and there's no way Edge wasn't winning with that they did to him and Beth months before. So it sort of made sense for closure. But now where do they go with Finn from here? It's inevitable for Dom's character to want to take over leadership from Finn

we'll see

Mr. Nerfect 04-11-2023 02:54 PM

Finn’s fine. I think he and Priest will go after the tag belts at some point this year. I’d like to see him face Santos Escobar at Backlash, but I can just see him buzzing around what Dominik & Priest/Rhea do.

xrodmuc316 04-11-2023 03:16 PM

Edge has won every fued he has been in since he came back except vs Roman, and a match against Orton when he tore his tricep, which was likely an audible as it was a taped match in front of 0 fans.

Mr. Nerfect 04-11-2023 03:55 PM

Can’t think of one he should have lost out of that batch though.

Sepholio 04-11-2023 06:08 PM

....so you think Edge should have went over Roman?

XL 04-11-2023 06:11 PM

I don’t think he’s saying that.

Sepholio 04-11-2023 06:13 PM

Also don't understand how people see Dom going for the leader role when he isn't exactly winning anything either. His story is hot for sure, or was, cuz Im not sure where he goes now after jobbing to his dad and then being stuck in a bad bunny showcase match. But I'm not seeing a scenario where the kid who got beat up by his dad makes sense as a better leader than the guy who just finished a HIAC match against a legend with his head split in half and a torn calf.

You want to change leaders then it needs to be Rhea. Evil Mami.

XL 04-11-2023 06:13 PM

Edge over Finn just leaves a “now what?” vibe. Edge goes away until his next feud, The Demon character takes another loss and Finn/Judgment Day continues seemingly like nothing has changed, I guess because nothing has. These are the bits of the story that wrestling misses out more often than not; little to no consequence for wins/losses.

XL 04-11-2023 06:15 PM

Can see Judgment Day being split in the Draft (despite other teams being drafted as one).

Sepholio 04-11-2023 06:17 PM

I'm not convinced Edge was planned to go over Balor originally. I mean really what does Edge do now? Who does he feud with? Does he stay out until it's almost time for Christian to return and then come back and set something up? I dunno.

Sepholio 04-11-2023 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5609881)
Can see Judgment Day being split in the Draft (despite other teams being drafted as one).

This is possible. Could see Balor/Priest on RAW as a tag team and Dom going over to SD with Rhea because she's the champ there.

Mr. Nerfect 04-11-2023 06:19 PM

Edge is supposed to be special. I don’t feel like he comes off that way — to me anyway — but it’s supposed to be a big deal when he loses. I can see him and Austin Theory doing something. Edge taking up for the legends Theory disrespects. That could be how they segue into Edge vs. Cena.

Balor is a win some/lose some kind of guy. I’d put Santos Escobar over him at Backlash. I don’t think it matters if Rey & Bad Bunny beat Domian either. They’re kind of chickenshits.

Mr. Nerfect 04-11-2023 06:19 PM

I think they’ll all stay together. They’re a good act. Good heat. They’re just not unbeatable.

Mr. Nerfect 04-11-2023 06:20 PM

There’s also Bray Wyatt for Edge, potentially. I mean, that will absolutely suck, but it could be a thing he wants to do.

Mr. Nerfect 04-11-2023 06:24 PM

I can see them doing Edge vs. Cody too.

Supreme Olajuwon 04-11-2023 07:12 PM

At 41 years old, I think we might just have to accept that this what Finn Balor is in WWE. He’s occasionally spooky Dolph Ziggler.

Lock Jaw 04-11-2023 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sepholio (Post 5609879)
Also don't understand how people see Dom going for the leader role when he isn't exactly winning anything either. His story is hot for sure, or was, cuz Im not sure where he goes now after jobbing to his dad and then being stuck in a bad bunny showcase match. But I'm not seeing a scenario where the kid who got beat up by his dad makes sense as a better leader than the guy who just finished a HIAC match against a legend with his head split in half and a torn calf.

You want to change leaders then it needs to be Rhea. Evil Mami.

In my head I had Rhea kicking both Finn and Dom out of Judgement Day after WM because "they couldn't get it done like she did".

Of course, at that point Judgement Day is just her and Priest, which is not really a stable anymore. I wasn't sure who I would have brought in as "replacements".

Dom would have become "more pathetic and annoying" and be desperately trying to blame his dad for it all while trying to find new friends.

Didn't have a plan for Finn either. He just goes away for a while.

Ruien 04-11-2023 07:39 PM

Judgement Day is one of Raw's best things going. Sure, Balor is the 'leader' but it isn't the role to use everyone for his own ambition.

Mr. Nerfect 04-11-2023 08:09 PM

Keep them together, just have Balor keep slapping that mat. He doesn’t need to win every feud.

XL 04-12-2023 05:26 AM

I wouldn’t mind repackaging Corbin into Judgment Day, taking advantage of what they were doing with him post-JBL. Also Karrion Kross and Scarlett as they seem a little rudderless at the minute. Maybe the platform gives them the opportunity to “break out” on their own again if the crowd gets behind them.

Team Sheep 04-12-2023 07:57 AM

Don't really get the IWC mentality that the old guy has to give the rub every time. I think Edge winning was fine. Some matches are made to beef up a card, not to necessarily have some long development future plan. Finn will just probably go for the tag titles with Priest this summer and all will be fine.

Sepholio 04-12-2023 10:45 AM

I don't think the old guy has to give the rub every time either. The issue with Edge is that he's been back 3 years and he's basically given the rub to no one. He lost to the champ....and Orton? That's it I think.

Sepholio 04-12-2023 10:46 AM

I can't even remember if Orton actually went over in the end now.

Destor 04-12-2023 10:50 AM

If you put everyone over then you wont be able to out anyone over. If edge is to go under it should be to someone unmade.

XL 04-12-2023 11:52 AM

Like Finn Balor? Or is he too “damaged”?

XL 04-12-2023 11:54 AM

Part of me thinks they went with the “right person wins” with every match aside from the Main Event so that when Cody didn’t win it hit even harder. It was one of the better cards for the “could go either way” results though.

Mr. Nerfect 04-12-2023 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Team Sheep (Post 5609943)
Don't really get the IWC mentality that the old guy has to give the rub every time. I think Edge winning was fine. Some matches are made to beef up a card, not to necessarily have some long development future plan. Finn will just probably go for the tag titles with Priest this summer and all will be fine.

100% this.

Mr. Nerfect 04-12-2023 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 5609933)
I wouldn’t mind repackaging Corbin into Judgment Day, taking advantage of what they were doing with him post-JBL. Also Karrion Kross and Scarlett as they seem a little rudderless at the minute. Maybe the platform gives them the opportunity to “break out” on their own again if the crowd gets behind them.

I kind of like the group as it is now. I can see the reasoning behind Corbin. I’m not totally against it. Kross is pretty awful. I have to squint to see that one.

Mr. Nerfect 04-12-2023 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 5609974)
Part of me thinks they went with the “right person wins” with every match aside from the Main Event so that when Cody didn’t win it hit even harder. It was one of the better cards for the “could go either way” results though.

I had that thought too.

Mr. Nerfect 04-12-2023 11:57 AM

Finn Balor is a bucket with holes at the bottom. You can pour as much water as you want in there but it is never going to stay full.

Destor 04-12-2023 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 5609973)
Like Finn Balor? Or is he too “damaged”?

if "former wwe champion" hasnt made you beating edge isnt the ticket either

Mr. Nerfect 04-12-2023 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5609980)
if "former wwe champion" hasnt made you beating edge isnt the ticket either

Thank you

XL 04-12-2023 02:28 PM

I mean he held the belt (and not the WWE Championship) for less than a day…

XL 04-12-2023 02:29 PM

And let’s get this straight, he didn’t lose to Edge. He lost to Brood Edge.

Mr. Nerfect 04-12-2023 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 5609992)
I mean he held the belt (and not the WWE Championship) for less than a day…

He was the first champion and they made a big deal out of what a big achievement it is. He has been around for years. He’s not going to magically catch fire when nothing about him has really changed. I guess he wears leather pants and mainly reps purple now.

Mr. Nerfect 04-12-2023 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 5609993)
And let’s get this straight, he didn’t lose to Edge. He lost to Brood Edge.

Losing to Brood Edge is the most protection a guy can have.

Team Sheep 04-12-2023 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sepholio (Post 5609965)
I don't think the old guy has to give the rub every time either. The issue with Edge is that he's been back 3 years and he's basically given the rub to no one. He lost to the champ....and Orton? That's it I think.

To be fair I see Edge's current run a bit differently. After 9 years out and not knowing he could ever do this again, it's more a career relaunch. Had he been full time for the last 25 years I'd probably see it differently, but he deserves some big wins and moments before he winds down for good.


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