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Mr. Nerfect 05-17-2018 06:00 AM

Fair enough.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-17-2018 09:04 AM

Yeah Waltman is very supportive of all wrestling. Tries his best to be an "uncle" type character. Not "in him" to be sarcastic against other workers' success.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-17-2018 09:04 AM

He still think Roman Reigns is a great top babyface.

Mr. Nerfect 05-17-2018 01:53 PM

Oh Jesus, that Chyna porn broke him.

XL 05-18-2018 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5124301)
He still think Roman Reigns is a great top babyface.

As do Austin, JR, Edge & Christian, etc.

BigCrippyZ 05-18-2018 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5124768)
As do Austin, JR, Edge & Christian, etc.

There's a difference between doing great as the top babyface with what you're given to work with and the limitations placed upon you, and actually being a great top babyface.

Are we sure they're not referring to the former re: Reigns?

I would agree with the former. He is doing "great" as the top babyface relative to the situation he's in and the limitations he has to deal with.

That doesn't actually make him a great top babyface though.

Mr. Nerfect 05-18-2018 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCrippyZ (Post 5124769)
There's a difference between doing great as the top babyface with what you're given to work with and the limitations placed upon you, and actually being a great top babyface.

Are we sure they're not referring to the former re: Reigns?

I would agree with the former. He is doing "great" as the top babyface relative to the situation he's in and the limitations he has to deal with.

That doesn't actually make him a great top babyface though.

That's very true. I haven't read the comments from JR, but Austin is very "diplomatic" with his podcast. Everyone is the best and everyone is the greatest. He wouldn't have worked with them in 1999, but they are great cats.

Edge lost me with his comments re: Jinder Mahal. Edge stated in a blunt, matter-of-fact way that "he has heat, okay?" No, he didn't. That was evident. Edge was just towing company line or whatever. Or younger guys (feels weird calling Edge a younger guy) just think heat are smatterings of boos from shrinking crowds.

erickman 05-27-2018 01:03 PM

so are they going to combine the nwa with the roh belt, if cody gets the belt from dalton

Simple Fan 05-27-2018 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by erickman (Post 5127360)
so are they going to combine the nwa with the roh belt, if cody gets the belt from dalton

Don't think they'd combine them, they'd just be a double champion.


mike adamle 05-28-2018 08:34 AM

Crazy they sell so many tickets and the first announced match is Cody vs. Nick Aldis...

Jordan 05-28-2018 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 5127428)
Don't think they'd combine them, they'd just be a double champion.


Okay that sold me, that should be the main event.

Jordan 05-28-2018 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mike adamle (Post 5127596)
Crazy they sell so many tickets and the first announced match is Cody vs. Nick Aldis...

Who cares. From their perspective, they have sold the tickets. It would be stupid to give away money to some cash hog star to beef up the card. Cody and Nick can headline and sprinkle The Bucks, Omega, and Okada throughout and you'll have a dope show.

Jordan 05-28-2018 08:45 AM

I really hope they stream the show so I can watch it.

Ruien 05-28-2018 09:04 AM

They need to make tv he stream super cheap. Like 3 dollars.

erickman 05-28-2018 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5127600)
I really hope they stream the show so I can watch it.

yeah I would like to see how they stream it, who will do play by play, they already have a lot of talent at starcast maby get tony and colt cabana

mike adamle 05-28-2018 10:20 AM

If I got a ticket I'd be selling it asap after getting told the main event is Cody vs. Magnus

Jordan 05-28-2018 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by erickman (Post 5127605)
yeah I would like to see how they stream it, who will do play by play, they already have a lot of talent at starcast maby get tony and colt cabana

I would love that. Or even Tony and JR. But yeah Colt would be better.

Destor 05-28-2018 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mike adamle (Post 5127596)
Crazy they sell so many tickets and the first announced match is Cody vs. Nick Aldis...

If you want those belts to even mean something you have to treat them like they mean something

mike adamle 05-28-2018 01:38 PM

Treat it like it means something or not I still have no interest in Cody vs. Magnus and can't believe anyone else does either.

erickman 05-28-2018 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5127644)
I would love that. Or even Tony and JR. But yeah Colt would be better.

jr will be at the ou collage football game, that's why I am surprised tony will be at starcast since he works for the ga bulldogs unless he retired from that job.

#1-norm-fan 05-28-2018 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mike adamle (Post 5127650)
Treat it like it means something or not I still have no interest in Cody vs. Magnus and can't believe anyone else does either.

For the people who bought tickets to the show, Cody going after the NWA title is a big deal.

Ruien 05-28-2018 03:32 PM

Who the fuck would buy tickets to a show Cody is putting together and not want to see him in a big match? Gtfo.

mike adamle 05-28-2018 03:44 PM

That's not what I said, what I'm saying is you really see him vs. Magnus as a big match??

#1-norm-fan 05-28-2018 03:48 PM

It's not so much him vs Magnus as it is him challenging for the NWA title. Which might not mean much anymore in general but given the history and its link to the Rhodes name, it's a pretty big deal for the old school marks/Cody fans that will be at the show.

Ruien 05-28-2018 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mike adamle (Post 5127711)
That's not what I said, what I'm saying is you really see him vs. Magnus as a big match??

I dunno who Magnus is but if he has the NWA belt it seems like an obvious match.

mike adamle 05-28-2018 04:17 PM

Match is gonna be the shits.

Simple Fan 05-28-2018 04:25 PM

I think the match will be good. Both are solid workers and I don't see Cody stinking it up for this show. Aldis has been doing good work with the NWA as well.

mike adamle 05-28-2018 04:38 PM

Maybe he's improved but I just remember AJ Styles' last TNA match was with Magnus and was the drizzling shits. And haven't heard of one performance of his since then that's been worthwhile. If AJ Styles can't drag something good outta Magnus what can Cody Rhodes do?

Simple Fan 05-28-2018 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mike adamle (Post 5127750)
Maybe he's improved but I just remember AJ Styles' last TNA match was with Magnus and was the drizzling shits. And haven't heard of one performance of his since then that's been worthwhile. If AJ Styles can't drag something good outta Magnus what can Cody Rhodes do?

You blame that match being shit on Magnus? It was doomed from the start with all the bull shit going on around it. I agree it should have been used to put Magnus over as the next guy but they didn't work it like that. They hardly had a match with all the interference.

What was worse was how Magnus won the title in the Dixieland Match. The guy is talented and was being built up well before they actually put the title on him in a horrid match. TNA did him no favors once they did go with him and is probably one of the reasons he left.

mike adamle 05-28-2018 04:55 PM

Well if you wanna go on about the interference being too much then how about the Magnus-Samoa Joe feud? That's normally used as Magnus' best work in TNA but was mediocre at best. Now we're supposed to think he's gonna tear the house down with Cody Rhodes?

Simple Fan 05-28-2018 05:04 PM

Just from memory Magnus's work with Sting stuck out with me the most. I think they worked to get her after the Joe/Magnus fued. I don't think Aldis and Cody are meant to tear the house down though. They've got guys like Okada, Omega, Pentagon, and the Bucks who will probably fill that part of the show. It being Cody's show though only makes sense to throw him in the main event with the resurgence of the NWA title. As far as the match goes I could see some type of twist occurring though.

erickman 05-28-2018 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 5127759)
Just from memory Magnus's work with Sting stuck out with me the most. I think they worked to get her after the Joe/Magnus fued. I don't think Aldis and Cody are meant to tear the house down though. They've got guys like Okada, Omega, Pentagon, and the Bucks who will probably fill that part of the show. It being Cody's show though only makes sense to throw him in the main event with the resurgence of the NWA title. As far as the match goes I could see some type of twist occurring though.

yeah that is where punk will show up during that match.

Destor 05-28-2018 06:03 PM

The nwa belt can mean something again. It needs a lot of tlc but its been getting treated well since the buyout

#1-norm-fan 05-28-2018 06:20 PM

Has it? This is a step in the right direction, especially if they give it to Cody and let him defend it in higher profile matches. All I've seen so far though is that Magnus won it from that old-as-dirt nobody and has since defended it against James Ellsworth. Also it got defended in CZW while the crowd shit on the match because no one got hit with a light bulb wrapped in barbed wire and set on fire.

mike adamle 05-28-2018 06:25 PM

It's just gonna be a mediocre match with a Dusty finish.

#1-norm-fan 05-28-2018 07:55 PM

If it's the main event, I think Cody's gotta win the title.

Simple Fan 05-28-2018 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5127826)
If it's the main event, I think Cody's gotta win the title.

That or Bullet Club turns on him.

Destor 05-28-2018 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mike adamle (Post 5127781)
It's just gonna be a mediocre match with a Dusty finish.

They wont do a dusty finish.

Mr. Nerfect 05-29-2018 03:56 AM

I think it's really sweet what Corgan is trying to do with the NWA Title. A guy that means something can make the belt mean something. There are plenty of examples where belts have mattered more or less because you care or you don't. I think he's fighting an uphill battle in the sense that it's so dependent on nostalgia instead of modern relevancy, and it comes attached with all these memories of TNA, being thrown on the ground, being put onto guys that don't exactly have big stateside profiles, etc.

I want to get behind it, and I want it to work, and it's really quirky that Cody is going to make it the biggest part of this show, but it's also the NWA Title being defended in a match between Cody Rhodes and Brutus Magnus. But I guess you've got to try.

I can see the match being quite underwhelming. I hope Austin Idol turns on Magnus and aligns himself with Cody. Idol and Cody together could be entertaining.

Jordan 05-29-2018 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5128228)
I think it's really sweet what Corgan is trying to do with the NWA Title. A guy that means something can make the belt mean something. There are plenty of examples where belts have mattered more or less because you care or you don't. I think he's fighting an uphill battle in the sense that it's so dependent on nostalgia instead of modern relevancy, and it comes attached with all these memories of TNA, being thrown on the ground, being put onto guys that don't exactly have big stateside profiles, etc.

I want to get behind it, and I want it to work, and it's really quirky that Cody is going to make it the biggest part of this show, but it's also the NWA Title being defended in a match between Cody Rhodes and Brutus Magnus. But I guess you've got to try.

I can see the match being quite underwhelming. I hope Austin Idol turns on Magnus and aligns himself with Cody. Idol and Cody together could be entertaining.

I like most old school fans have a fondness for the 10lbs of Gold. Just seeing that segment in England between Cody and Aldis was hype enough for me. If Cody takes that title he could truly make an NWA promotion a viable option on the indy scene. NWA could work with any promotion which is really cool. I wonder if the plan for All In going forward involves Bill Corgan and Condrad as financiers.


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