Jon Moxley on Talk Is Jericho
 

John Moxley "went off" on WWE on Talk is Jericho.

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Oh snap! Can’t wait to listen.

Based on the interest on /r/SC, this deserves a thread!

My fave part at the beginning of the podcast is he was like "no hard feelings I love WWE" before tearing them apart.

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It's kind of a fun listen but will amount to nothing but a ripple in the ocean. WWE will see themselves as the victims of an unappreciative employee.

Some cliffnotes from Moxley:

-He knew he wanted to leave the company in July 2018 when he was out with an injury

-Refused to read a scripted promo because he believed it was idiotic/ridiculous whilst Vince believed it was great

-Talks about the promos he read whilst feuding with Seth late last/early this year, and how they made no sense, tried to rewrite them and got frustrated when he couldn't

-Says he thought him cutting the promo talking about Roman's cancer was distasteful

-Says he felt like walking out on the Raw where he got shots/vaccinated during a promo, and that was the day he 100% knew he was leaving and not coming back

-Vince tried to talk him into saying another cancer remark about Roman, says it was so bad they could have lost sponsors, refused to say it (34 minutes into the podcast)

-Says he was excited to return to wrestling when he was injured, but not excited to return to WWE

-Says if there was no other promotion other than WWE, he still would have left and done something else

-Vince "didn't know" he was unhappy, even with Moxley being open with his frustrations to Vince about scripts

-Was happy to take bumps from Nia, but felt like it was them punishing him for leaving

-They offered him a new contract, he didn't even look at it

-His goal in AEW is to be the best version of himself, looking forward to creative freedom

-Says Tony Kahn is the exact opposite of Vince, likes him and the fact hes a huge wrestling fan

-Talks about using social media now that he's out of WWE and it isn't being forced

-His payday for the Shield's Final Chapter was $500, which is in line with what background extras typically receive

Wait, he cut a promo about Reigns' cancer?

Ya he referenced it. There was a promo where he basically told Seth that all of the members of the Shield, himself included, were paying for their previous transgressions as part of the group. "Just look at what happened to Roman"

Ah, cheers.

Stay classy, Vince.

He flew himself to New York to meet with Vince away from TV to pitch ideas for his return and got the good shit from Vince

Wonder how many of the men/women are gonna hear this and have 2nd thoughts now...

lol too funny. All these attitude guys are like 'take risks and fight for your character.' WTF else could Dean do? Seems like he fought every day.

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The attitude era guys don't seem to get that, in their time, Vince was desperate, and in his desperation was more open to the talent coming up with ideas and gimmicks to help get them over.

He's got zero reason now to let any of the roster have creative freedom as he's raking in the dough doing things his way.

They even hinted at paige and her porn tape, one promo with the usos i believe said something about Xavier being rated R soon after it was "leaked" online.

Found the clip

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About halfway thru the Moxley pod, and my fave part so far is, upon returning to Raw and anticipating/craving the pop he was to get once his music hit as a surprise return, Seth having give it away and Moxley responding "they ruin everything!". Legit lol'd on my way to workupon hearing that.

lol i like how at the beginning of Jericho's podcast before getting into the interview he threw in some kayfabe. what a guy.

Lmao YAYASS! Forgot about that. Pretty funny stuff. Jericho is a gift to us all.

OMFG! Jericho's commercials are the worst.

Hit the FF 15 second button 4 times

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lol at Jericho acknowledging Renee

They're fucking awful. And really long.

I realize it's a hindsight thing, but this must be the universal look to the camera of "disgruntled and wheels turning to leave". This is pretty much the same look CM Punk had in that one interview right before he was gone where he was kinda towing the company line, but was looking at the camera like "I'm really not feeling this and you clearly know that was a line of bullshit, right?".

So weird that there is videotaped evidence of a point you can see a spirit being crushed and it is screencapable.

And with that said, I wonder at what point in the future we will have a side by side picture of Velveteen Dream going from "the sky is the limit for my career" rocking the "Call Me Up, Vince" tights in NXT, to a dejected "this is bullshit, I want to go" look on his face?

NY Post now covering Moxley/Vinny Mac story


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I wonder if the podcast might affect Renee Young's position in the company. I remember Jericho thanking her towards the end of the episode.

I'm sure she wants out as well. I have nothing but logic to state that, but I doubt she'd want to stay there without Jon, and especially with how fucking weird shit is there.

Vince is gonna do an angle where Renee gets covered in actual poo

I wish Hunter and Vince were above this shit. "Burying someone" just because they're leaving seems petty and outdated.

I think Renee is really miscast in the broadcast booth. She is a great interviewer and she shined on Talking Smack. Covering matches though just hasn't been her forte...with one, single exception being her and Tom Phillips/Saxton at the opening bout of MITB. She gelled really well with those two.

That would necessitate Vince moving with the times...so that's a no.

I bet she ends up in the booth at AEW.

Not in my eyes, why hype someone that isn't going to be with your company in 6 months?

I think there's a difference between getting someone to do the favors on the way out and completely skullfucking their credibility.

Or they could have had Seth murk him and have him off TV for months before he leaves, cooling him off

I hope not. Maybe it's Vince's fault but she's just not very good. At all.

Renee is going to discover her DP fetish on air

DP? You think so small, at least TP

She'll start with Cole and Graves, but RAW is 3 hours long