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Fignuts 12-06-2021 01:19 PM

O'Reilly by himself isn't anything special, but as part of a reunited Undisputed Era, he definitely has value.

Mr. Nerfect 12-06-2021 01:22 PM

I think he’s probably more valuable in AEW to them as part of that act than he is in NXT on his own. He’s the one I most expect to jump. He’s a bigger value add to AEW than he is WWE, plus they’ll probably offer him more money.

Jordan 12-06-2021 01:26 PM

Gargano and O'Reilly to AEW, add in Keith Lee and maybe Killer Kross and his sexy wife, it all makes sense. AEW could have the roster they could've had from the beginning essentially the best of PWG and ROH from across the years.

They just need to separate with a good chunk of talent they have so they don't have a massive roster that never has enough time.

Mr. Nerfect 12-06-2021 01:33 PM

How about a husband and wives division? They could even create a new title for it — the TruTV Title.

* Miro & CJ
* Keith Lee & Mia Yim
* Killer Kross & Scarlett
* John Hennigan & Taya Valkyrie
* Adam Cole & Britt Baker
* Cody & Brandi Rhodes
* Kip Sabian & Penelope Ford
* Matthew & Athena Palmer

Fignuts 12-06-2021 01:37 PM

AEW does not need Gargano. He got over as part of a natural, rise to prominence alongside Ciampa that happened organically and felt very special. Everything after that failed to match the quality of storytelling in that initial run.

Yes, he's a very good hand, but so are a lot of guys in AEW. He doesn't bring anything to the table that they don't already have.

xrodmuc316 12-06-2021 01:45 PM

If I am Gargano I dont know if im leaving. He is NXT, and I dont think he would ever get any higher than low midcard in AEW. At least in NXT he always has that lore of the heart of NXT. NXT can go younger but they will always need vets in the player/coach role, and he is over as can be with that audience.

xrodmuc316 12-06-2021 01:54 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A full circle story if there ever was one! <a href="https://t.co/GTPHpM2gW9">https://t.co/GTPHpM2gW9</a> <a href="https://t.co/eyVqBQLorx">pic.twitter.com/eyVqBQLorx</a></p>&mdash; QT Marshall (@QTMarshall) <a href="https://twitter.com/QTMarshall/status/1467884805652160513?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LOL come on, a QT Marshall exhibit??? At some point Shad has to say "No, I am not giving you money for THAT Tony".

slik 12-06-2021 01:56 PM

Yeah, I agree with you xrod. Planet Hollywood must be really hard up from the pandemic if QT is where things are at now.

Fignuts 12-06-2021 01:57 PM

What the fuck does QT Marshall have to do with Hollywood in the first place.

Evil Vito 12-06-2021 01:58 PM

Gargano vs. Danielson always felt like a natural program that would've eventually happened in the E

Mr. Nerfect 12-06-2021 02:01 PM

Gargano is a guy that I see staying in the WWE, because he’s got that player/coach value there and seems really embedded. And his wife is there. But if he did leave, regardless of whether AEW needs him, they would sign him. And it wouldn’t be a “bad” signing. Taking the Heart and Soul of NXT is something. It’s how you use him.

slik 12-06-2021 02:03 PM

I'm not sure Gargano is leaving WWE tbh. I think KOR is, but I'm not sure about Gargano. He might just be taking paternity leave and disappear for a while.

We'll see.

#1-norm-fan 12-06-2021 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5499171)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A full circle story if there ever was one! <a href="https://t.co/GTPHpM2gW9">https://t.co/GTPHpM2gW9</a> <a href="https://t.co/eyVqBQLorx">pic.twitter.com/eyVqBQLorx</a></p>&mdash; QT Marshall (@QTMarshall) <a href="https://twitter.com/QTMarshall/status/1467884805652160513?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LOL come on, a QT Marshall exhibit??? At some point Shad has to say "No, I am not giving you money for THAT Tony".

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5499177)
Yeah, I agree with you xrod. Planet Hollywood must be really hard up from the pandemic if QT is where things are at now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5499178)
What the fuck does QT Marshall have to do with Hollywood in the first place.

Apparently he worked there and was a higher up at one point. Probably has more to do with them hyping one of their own becoming a quasi celebrity than anything else.

Jordan 12-06-2021 02:17 PM

He's a huge celebrity now that he's a star of TNT's highest rated show. QT would get over in any generation, he's timeless and now Hollywood has taken note.

I can imagine a QT bio series like The Wonder Years and even a reality TV show like Rhodes to the Top, you could call it QT Pie and give it a baking spin.

Lots of spin going around about QT'S contract coming up and the bidding war between AEW, WWE and Hollywood. Gonna be a fun ride boys!

Evil Vito 12-06-2021 02:23 PM

Remember when Allie wanted to jump QT's bones? We should all strive to be more like QT.

Mr. Nerfect 12-06-2021 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan (Post 5499190)
He's a huge celebrity now that he's a star of TNT's highest rated show. QT would get over in any generation, he's timeless and now Hollywood has taken note.

I can imagine a QT bio series like The Wonder Years and even a reality TV show like Rhodes to the Top, you could call it QT Pie and give it a baking spin.

Lots of spin going around about QT'S contract coming up and the bidding war between AEW, WWE and Hollywood. Gonna be a fun ride boys!

:lol:

slik 12-06-2021 02:32 PM

I kind of forgot about Lance Archer and Jake Roberts in AEW.

Lock Jaw 12-06-2021 02:35 PM

Lance Archer is like if you pushed Konnor of The Ascension as a serious solo act

#1-norm-fan 12-06-2021 02:41 PM

Lol What an odd comparison.

Mr. Nerfect 12-06-2021 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5499207)
Lance Archer is like if you pushed Konnor of The Ascension as a serious solo act

Similar aesthetic.

Damian Rey 2.0 12-06-2021 03:30 PM

I heard Kyle O’Reily talk on nxt 2.0 for about 30 seconds and realized he’s just a big dork and decided I don’t want him on my TV. It doesn’t help that I view him as a wish app Bryan Danielson with the complete opposite amount of charisma. I don’t want him in AEW. Gargano I feel the same. They have a lot of guys like him already. Keith Lee is the big name they should go outta their way for. He’s unique, he’s charismatic and he is bigger than a lot of their guys which helps add variety to their roster.

Owens/Steen seems like a lock. They should absolutely sign him. He’d be a great promo and he works as the bully heel or anti authority babyface. He’d be a good foil/rival for the elite.

Lock Jaw 12-06-2021 03:36 PM

A big dork, you say? Seems like he'd be a great fit for AEW!

GD 12-06-2021 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5499255)
A big dork, you say? Seems like he'd be a great fit for AEW!

Lock Jaw has been very vocal about his criticism of AEW. Wonder what sets him apart from the likes of Mr Nerfect and xrod...

Lock Jaw 12-06-2021 03:56 PM

My general "chillness" :cool:

Evil Vito 12-06-2021 04:00 PM

Lock Jaw's stream of consciousness thoughts are entertaining

Evil Vito 12-06-2021 04:01 PM

Also helps that he's actually watching the show he is critiquing

screech 12-06-2021 05:20 PM

Lock Jaw also isn't a dick about it. Just nonchalantly says "hey this isn't great" as he's watching the show.

xrodmuc316 12-06-2021 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Queen Darlene (Post 5499256)
Lock Jaw has been very vocal about his criticism of AEW. Wonder what sets him apart from the likes of Mr Nerfect and xrod...

Now what did I do? :rofl:

All joking aside, I will break it down. My problem with AEW is not the product, its all the stupid shit people from their rosters say outside of the the time they are on TV. My problem is their owner being a whining spoiled child who acts 12 when he is 40. They ruin what would be a more enjoyable product by being such dislikable people the rest of the week.

Mr. Nerfect 12-07-2021 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5499298)
Now what did I do? :rofl:

All joking aside, I will break it down. My problem with AEW is not the product, its all the stupid shit people from their rosters say outside of the the time they are on TV. My problem is their owner being a whining spoiled child who acts 12 when he is 40. They ruin what would be a more enjoyable product by being such dislikable people the rest of the week.

This. Also the product sucks. And being a dick is subjective. I don’t think Lock Jaw nor you are dicks. I think screech is (big time). This is just a divisive tactic. Pro-AEW apologists annoy the fuck out of me. At least (insert poster here) isn’t a piece of shit about it and can admit the company’s grating fucking flaws.

Anyone can do that annoying shit. It’s a dishonest, sneaky and cunty way of trying to control discourse.

Mr. Nerfect 12-07-2021 02:37 PM

These same posters were pro-WWE a few years ago. Most people with common sense were criticising them. Now it’s okay to point and laugh at WWE. But it’s not okay to do that with AEW.

They’ve got a shiny new toy. They can’t actually respond to criticism, and it infringes on how they identify with something they are preoccupied with for the moment. When AEW fades and something else takes that spot (established or not right now), “LolAEW” will become a meme and the new thing will be protected by “How about if you don’t like it, you don’t watch?” as well as mocking people for not watching and calling people dicks, cocksuckers and all sorts of names for not falling into line and scaffolding the new fad.

We’re probably only about a year away from the change. I’ll be shocked if it doesn’t happen by 2024.

Mr. Nerfect 12-07-2021 02:42 PM

Love how there is apparently no variance in how criticism is received, only how it is delivered. Lol, fuck off with that gaslighting shit.

Damian Rey 2.0 12-07-2021 02:56 PM

Lock Jaw doesn’t shit on, insult, talk in circles and aimlessly troll those who like AEW. He just shared his thoughts. Sometimes he likes stuff. Sometimes he doesn’t. Not liking AEW isn’t noids problem.

screech 12-07-2021 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Queen Darlene (Post 5499256)
Lock Jaw has been very vocal about his criticism of AEW. Wonder what sets him apart from the likes of Mr Nerfect and xrod...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Vito (Post 5499260)
Lock Jaw's stream of consciousness thoughts are entertaining

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 5499394)
Lock Jaw doesn’t shit on, insult, talk in circles and aimlessly troll those who like AEW. He just shared his thoughts. Sometimes he likes stuff. Sometimes he doesn’t. Not liking AEW isn’t noids problem.

Feel like these two posts nail the difference between how Lock Jaw talks about AEW and Noid/xrod do. Lock Jaw is entertaining about it and doesn't shit on anyone who enjoys what he doesn't.

(I realize Darlene was probably trolling, but whatever. Any excuse to put over Lock Jaw.)

screech 12-07-2021 03:13 PM

Think someone said it already but I'd really like to see Keith Lee in AEW. If nothing else, he'd bring a different look than most of the roster. Plus I want to see him actually get a chance to do stuff on TV.

EDIT: It was Damian Rey up there. Great minds and all that.

xrodmuc316 12-07-2021 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by screech (Post 5499396)
Feel like these two posts nail the difference between how Lock Jaw talks about AEW and Noid/xrod do. Lock Jaw is entertaining about it and doesn't shit on anyone who enjoys what he doesn't.

(I realize Darlene was probably trolling, but whatever. Any excuse to put over Lock Jaw.)

Somebody quote this so Jackass Screech sees it. You are not a troll, you are a parrot of other people's trolling because you have zero original thoughts. You lump me in with the way others post not because you read and comprehend what is posted, you do so because other people make that incorrect point and you think restating that point is the socially acceptable response.

You are the exact reason I dumbed everything down to simple memes last year, because it was the best option to try and make you understand. Sadly, even that was too complex for you to grasp.

Also FYI, you quoted three posts, not two you turd.

slik 12-07-2021 04:13 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The next time you see someone enjoying something, that isn’t hurting anyone, that’s not your cup of tea instead of saying something negative train yourself to think to yourself “I’m glad they are happy” and carry on with your life.</p>&mdash; Mark MacKillop (@mark_mackillop) <a href="https://twitter.com/mark_mackillop/status/1388962406068592648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Nerfect 12-07-2021 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5499412)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The next time you see someone enjoying something, that isn’t hurting anyone, that’s not your cup of tea instead of saying something negative train yourself to think to yourself “I’m glad they are happy” and carry on with your life.</p>&mdash; Mark MacKillop (@mark_mackillop) <a href="https://twitter.com/mark_mackillop/status/1388962406068592648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

1. No one is actually upset at anyone enjoying anything. This is a massive distortion to try and make it sound like happiness is the target.

2. Criticism in culture is valid.

3. The propagation of bad media can actually hurt. It’s debatable to what extent AEW is hurting wrestling, but it is actually debatable that it is, so that whole point can get fucked. It’s solipsistic to think that just because you enjoy something it is actually beneficial.

4. I’m glad we can all agree that screech is a jack-ass.

Mr. Nerfect 12-07-2021 04:30 PM

PS. People started shitting on xrod because of his entertaining criticisms of the product and not because he shat on people. Stop with this narrative that he’s the one attacking people, lol.

slik 12-07-2021 04:54 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Huh? What? <a href="https://t.co/TQ6CkXtw6g">pic.twitter.com/TQ6CkXtw6g</a></p>&mdash; The Macho Beard (@Machobeard4life) <a href="https://twitter.com/Machobeard4life/status/1468333963760525320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Vastardikai 12-07-2021 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5499414)
PS. People started shitting on xrod because of his entertaining criticisms of the product and not because he shat on people. Stop with this narrative that he’s the one attacking people, lol.

I have gotten a bit of that, as well. And I'm like, apart from Omega and the Bucks, I really don't hate anyone at AEW. I actually liked the bit with Jade Cargill and the lady who looked like If AJ Lee had been through some shit (Kick Demon lady?) Best part was Rosa taking off her earrings on the way to the ring. It created an image of "This is gonna be a fight" that a lot of AEW is poor at promoting.

And I make fun of stupid shit in AEW because it comes off stupid. I make fun of stupid shit in WWE because it's stupid. But some of the stupid shit in WWE isn't as stupid as people think it is. Some of it is literally "Smart Mark getting worked, and don't want to admit it." Some of it is "We don't know what words means." Some of it is "We are expecting them to play checkers like us, but actually, they're playing chess. And we're not even playing checkers. We're playing Sorry!" The vast(ardikai?) majority comes down to this: "We are basing our enjoyment of this product on the thoughts of one man who doesn't look at the big picture."


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