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Mr. Nerfect 01-05-2019 01:54 AM

They will sign Joey Ryan, I fear. :(

Mr. Nerfect 01-05-2019 01:59 AM

Another edge AEW has -- they don't need to tie their talent down exclusively. Now if AJ Styles did hypothetically sign with AEW, I'm sure Vince would be incredibly frustrated, throw a fit, toss things around and damn AJ to hell and may never want to speak his name again. But AEW can structure their contracts where Styles absolutely has the freedom to work a number of dates with WWE. There's nothing to stop the Khans paying Styles $5.2 million a year ($100,000 a week) downside guarantee for a retainer, but still allow him to work select dates with WWE. If Vince McMahon wants AJ Styles so bad, they could still lend him to Vince for WrestleMania, for example. It would be Vince throwing his toys out the pram, so to speak.

They can approach talent in such a non-aggressive way that it would almost seem like a no-brainer to sign with them, haha. We're just so used to Vince McMahon's "all or nothing" approach. Couple that with the idea I had earlier of possibly giving talent who serve the promotion for a set amount of time "pensions" in order to retain their licencing rights (like the WWE's legends deals, but not as shitty) and you can really shift things to a post-needing Vince world.

erickman 01-05-2019 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 5211280)
If they sign Joey Ryan I'm all out.

if they have a big tv deal they might not sign him, like jim cornet said they can't do the dick flip.

rez 01-05-2019 04:50 AM

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xrodmuc316 01-05-2019 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5211284)
Another edge AEW has -- they don't need to tie their talent down exclusively. Now if AJ Styles did hypothetically sign with AEW, I'm sure Vince would be incredibly frustrated, throw a fit, toss things around and damn AJ to hell and may never want to speak his name again. But AEW can structure their contracts where Styles absolutely has the freedom to work a number of dates with WWE. There's nothing to stop the Khans paying Styles $5.2 million a year ($100,000 a week) downside guarantee for a retainer, but still allow him to work select dates with WWE. If Vince McMahon wants AJ Styles so bad, they could still lend him to Vince for WrestleMania, for example. It would be Vince throwing his toys out the pram, so to speak.

They can approach talent in such a non-aggressive way that it would almost seem like a no-brainer to sign with them, haha. We're just so used to Vince McMahon's "all or nothing" approach. Couple that with the idea I had earlier of possibly giving talent who serve the promotion for a set amount of time "pensions" in order to retain their licencing rights (like the WWE's legends deals, but not as shitty) and you can really shift things to a post-needing Vince world.

LOL, where are you guys coming up with these numbers?

RaginRonic 01-05-2019 12:20 PM

I wonder if AWE will show on-camera marijuana use on their Canadian TV events?

XD

xrodmuc316 01-05-2019 12:29 PM

FYI, it's not like the Khans just have $6 billion laying around. What matters is what they have in hand. That's why Vince McMahons net worth is $3 billion, but when he needed actual cash for the XFL, he had to sell stock to get his hands on that money, and pay taxes on the money he got from the stocks.

No billionaire is rocking a Scrooge McDuck vault.

Mr. Nerfect 01-05-2019 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5211343)
LOL, where are you guys coming up with these numbers?

What do you even mean? Theyíre hypotheticals that the Khans could obviously afford. Could be lower, could be higher. And yeah, money gets wrapped up, but you can access it pretty easily. $800 million for Wembley.

Emperor Smeat 01-05-2019 05:03 PM

Seems there is a bidding war going on right now between Impact Wrestling and AEW for Pentagon Jr and Fenix.

AEW supposedly made an offer recently which lead to Impact bumping up their own offer to a "low six figure" per year type deal. Only downside to both offers is that AEW wants exclusivity and Impact wants a cut of their indies pay going forward.

Could be settled as early as this Tuesday since AEW wants both guys to be at their press conference in Jacksonville.

erickman 01-05-2019 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5211433)
Seems there is a bidding war going on right now between Impact Wrestling and AEW for Pentagon Jr and Fenix.

AEW supposedly made an offer recently which lead to Impact bumping up their own offer to a "low six figure" per year type deal. Only downside to both offers is that AEW wants exclusivity and Impact wants a cut of their indies pay going forward.

Could be settled as early as this Tuesday since AEW wants both guys to be at their press conference in Jacksonville.

I thought lucha libra had both of them and loaning both to impact and mlw. aew is pissing off the other feds.

Emperor Smeat 01-05-2019 05:43 PM

If I remember, neither guy are locked into AAA or CMLL which is how they can work for both and also keep control over their indies schedule.

If AEW manages to get a deal done with NJPW, that could open up CMLL for a partnership and solve a couple of potential problems for them. Same for how strict their exclusivity actually is since it could just be for the US indies and/or US indies with tv deals.

#1-norm-fan 01-05-2019 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5211283)
They will sign Joey Ryan, I fear. :(

I canít imagine they wonít. They let him do his shtick on All In. Clearly Cody doesnít feel the embarrassment about him that he should.

ClockShot 01-05-2019 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5211433)
Seems there is a bidding war going on right now between Impact Wrestling and AEW for Pentagon Jr and Fenix.

AEW supposedly made an offer recently which lead to Impact bumping up their own offer to a "low six figure" per year type deal. Only downside to both offers is that AEW wants exclusivity and Impact wants a cut of their indies pay going forward.

Could be settled as early as this Tuesday since AEW wants both guys to be at their press conference in Jacksonville.

:rofl:

Impact wants a cut of their indy pay?

This decision should be a no-brainer then.

Mr. Nerfect 01-05-2019 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5211456)
I canít imagine they wonít. They let him do his shtick on All In. Clearly Cody doesnít feel the embarrassment about him that he should.

:lol:

I imagine you're right with that. I can see him being switched to a heel that complains he can't do his shtick in AEW because of "standards and practices." Make him Vince Russo, the wrestler.

Hopefully we can get a hold of those quarter-hour ratings when he comes out with penis druids.

Mr. Nerfect 01-05-2019 07:19 PM

I heard that TNA offered Pentagon and Fenix low six figures each but AEW came back with triple the offer. So that's at least $300,000.

xrodmuc316 01-05-2019 08:07 PM

I heard that AEW offered Paul London a 6 year $39.5 million fully guaranteed deal.

Of course it's true, cause the Khans could afford it.

xrodmuc316 01-05-2019 08:14 PM

I heard AEW is pushing hard to sign Braden Walker and Heidenreich for their tag team division.

They also want Justice from Tough Enough and the American Gladiators reboot.

xrodmuc316 01-05-2019 08:18 PM

Cody has big plans to push his Uncle Fred as Shockmaster 3000.

xrodmuc316 01-05-2019 08:24 PM

Tony Khan is gonna offer Le'veon Bell a contract to join the Jaguars.

His signing bonus will be to have a few matches in AEW like that other Steelers running back had in TNA.

rez 01-05-2019 09:25 PM

As long as Jarrett, Russo, and Dixie aren't involved in this, I am very optimistic about this promotion.

I wonder if they'd want to partner with Corgan...His head sees to be on straight these days. NWA could be the NXT for AEW.

Mr. Nerfect 01-05-2019 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5211516)
I heard that AEW offered Paul London a 6 year $39.5 million fully guaranteed deal.

Of course it's true, cause the Khans could afford it.

Why would they want Paul London that badly?

xrodmuc316 01-05-2019 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5211544)
Why would they want Paul London that badly?

Because they can afford it.

Mr. Nerfect 01-06-2019 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5211549)
Because they can afford it.

They could afford a troupe of circus elephants too. That doesnít answer the question.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-06-2019 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5211283)
They will sign Joey Ryan, I fear. :(

Well good fuck em if they do. Just needed one reason to not watch this. If he's all in. I'm all out forever.

xrodmuc316 01-06-2019 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5211570)
They could afford a troupe of circus elephants too. That doesnít answer the question.

I actually heard they are gonna sign multiple circus personalities to multi year deals, including the famous Elite Eight Elephants, or "3E" as they are known on the circuit.

Mr. Nerfect 01-06-2019 01:44 AM

Imagine thinking that wanting someone because you’ve got the money and wanting someone and having the money are the same thing.

Mr. Nerfect 01-06-2019 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 5211572)
Well good fuck em if they do. Just needed one reason to not watch this. If he's all in. I'm all out forever.

I get the frustration there. Maybe they just give him a pay-day to get Speared by Goldberg? Or maybe he plays a heel manager that wants a big AEW contract but they donít hire him because heís a crooked promoter who got people to play with his dick? I dunno, Iím trying to be optimistic.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-06-2019 01:51 AM

If they book Tampon Lady also.

slik 01-06-2019 02:58 AM

Just saw that spot, re: Tampon Lady

She's not getting booked anywhere in a major fed after that, would be a bad PR move

xrodmuc316 01-06-2019 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5211584)
Imagine thinking that wanting someone because you’ve got the money and wanting someone and having the money are the same thing.

Lol what? Who wouldn't want to lockdown a talent like smiling Paul London up???

Bad News Gertner 01-06-2019 09:15 AM

This will do absolutely nothing. They are appealing to the niche audience of a niche audience. Brand recognition will kill them.

Bad News Gertner 01-06-2019 09:15 AM

Btw, how's the NWA doing. I remember people getting upset when I said it would go nowhere after Cody won the title.

Shisen Kopf 01-06-2019 09:58 AM

They need to get a battle midget that is heavily armored for this fed to even have a chance

Ruien 01-06-2019 10:57 AM

What is the deal with Joey Ryan and Tampon Girl? Confused.

screech 01-06-2019 11:11 AM

Joey Ryan is the dick flip guy.

I don't know who Tampon Girl is.

Blonde Moment 01-06-2019 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Midnight Gertner (Post 5211628)
Btw, how's the NWA doing. I remember people getting upset when I said it would go nowhere after Cody won the title.

Fickle fickle fickle
That is why shit goes nowhere, why invest time and energy into anythingwhen the fans will shit all over it at the drop of a #

Bad News Gertner 01-06-2019 12:16 PM

Because they've done absolutely nothing since? I'm sorry for being realistic.

Blonde Moment 01-06-2019 02:07 PM

What exactly are you looking at from this promotion?
The belt is being defended...
Outside of NJPW everything else is Mickey Mouse compared to the WWe.
Hell, I bet Netflixs' Glow got more views per episode than anything ROH, impact or any other indy promotion has gotten in yeaars.

erickman 01-06-2019 02:16 PM

glow may be beating raw eps as many people stoped watching raw.

Blonde Moment 01-06-2019 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by erickman (Post 5211673)
glow may be beating raw eps as many people stoped watching raw.

if it keeps going. Second season of Glow averaged 700k viewers / episode.
We are heading back towards the days of territories and I for one could care less as long as the shows that these organizations are putting on are entertaining to the crowds sitting in the seats and not the neckbeards sitting on the couch or hooked up to the computer saying they could do better.


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