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Fignuts 01-08-2019 11:41 PM

I don’t fucking know, Jesus leave me alone!

Tom Guycott 01-08-2019 11:44 PM

Oddly enough, Jericho's appearance made me think of Terry Funk; in that I would imagine he will be with AEW in a similar capacity to how Funk was in ECW - spreading knowledge, adding name rub, and putting over future stars. But that's just a guess.

Tom Guycott 01-09-2019 12:00 AM


Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5212615)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE is turning away people from buying tickets who are wearing AEW merchandise</p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="">January 8, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5212618)
Seems its everyone in general who attended the rally getting turned away regardless if they bought or wore AEW merch.

Would explain the stuff from the sheets last week about WWE sending hidden officials for this rally.


Originally Posted by erickman (Post 5212620)
I would figure most of those people would already have tickets those are the few wrestling fans left.

So, let's piss off the fans who likely watch *everything* for being spoiled for choice anymore and actively punish them by not letting them pay you money to see your show? This is a bit different than shitcanning Jimmy Jacobs for taking a selfie over something their company did almost two decades previously... this is way more petty. And it is a petty that tangibly can bite them in the ass.

It also feeds the trolls who will now be trying to "sneak in" signs and shirts to specifically get on TV with. If they continue down this road, they will do nothing but give them more pub than they did with the "cease & desist" business over "Suck It". AEW shirts will go from being just a shirt in the crowd that fans have like actual Bullet Club shirts to a statement of anti-WWE that WWE will themselves stoke the flames for.

Streisand Effect divided by self-fulfilling prophecy with a remainder of that time WWE event staff moved a row of cosplayers off camera and The Rock got them on TV anyway.

xrodmuc316 01-09-2019 12:03 AM

Man that rally was cringe as all hell.

1. Jericho coming out was supposed to be a big surprise, Conrad even acting like it was unknown who it could be. Except dude came out to who own music. Who the fuck else would be coming out to Fozzy?? Lol
2. So their first show is May 25th, 4 and a half months away. Why the fuck is Neville wearing his gear already?. The match is 4 and a fucking half months away!
3. Since everybody has dual roles, does that mean Britt Baker is the official fentist?
4. Christopher Daniels is way to old to be acting "funny giddy cool"
5. Can the Khans not afford microphones that don't pick up the hard P? Sounded like garbage.
6. Can they also not afford a sound stabilizer of any kind? Went from dead silence to normal to could barely hear to trying to blow out my speakers
7. Maybe next time they should get a podium short enough that the young bucks don't look like kids at.
8. Jericho wants to change the Universe!!! They were so close to getting through the rally without going full TNA and alluding to WWE. Oh well
9. Oh no, WWE didn't let in anybody who went to the rally. All 200 of them couldn't be jackasses on WWE TV WAAAHHHHHH.

Tom Guycott 01-09-2019 12:37 AM


Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5212741)
9. Oh no, WWE didn't let in anybody who went to the rally. All 200 of them couldn't be jackasses on WWE TV WAAAHHHHHH.

That's the thing. By simply assuming that 200 people were going to "act like jackasses" and denying them entry, they've ensured more people will do exactly that in the future in an intentional act of trolling. That's some wrestling 101 shit; tell the fans not to do something, and that makes them do it harder. If WWE would have no-sold this rally, they remove the potential to make it a thing. Like when they tried to quell CM Punk chants by saying he was a quitter instead of just letting it run its course.Fans prolonged that shit do to spite that they brought upon themselves because, by addressing it, they made it seem like what was happening was a work and leading to some grandiose return - and if it was, in fact, the shoot it ended up being, just cast the company in a super petty light that, once again, the fans can rebel against.

Fignuts 01-09-2019 12:39 AM

You seem like you want this to fail.

Emperor Smeat 01-09-2019 12:49 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mayu Iwatani is supposed to work MSG but Elite is trying to convince her to join them and leave Stardom.<br><br>Also Elite tried to sign Viper but she's WWE bound.</p>&mdash; luchablog (@luchablog) <a href="">January 8, 2019</a></blockquote>
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That last one could be an potential ominous sign for World of Sport's future considering she was one of the talents signed there and its on even shakier ground than Lucha Underground has been the past few years.

Fignuts 01-09-2019 12:53 AM

Well WWE already got Kairi and Sharai. AEW might as well try for Iwatani before WWE gets her too.

Emperor Smeat 01-09-2019 01:09 AM

Newest rumor going around the net hints at AEW being very close to getting a tv deal signed and in the range of around $100 million in value.

Tom Guycott 01-09-2019 01:15 AM

If nothing else, AEW will hopefully help poke a hole in WWE's "toy collecting". WWE can't sign everybody just to not use them and only push their own Vince-made stars.

Emperor Smeat 01-09-2019 01:23 AM

Also rumored is Impact being worried of a mass exodus occurring in March since that is when the next batch of contracts expire. Rumored to be trying to get a partnership done beforehand so they can keep some potential access to whoever leaves for AEW.

Mr. Nerfect 01-09-2019 04:51 AM


Originally Posted by Dark One (Post 5212568)
With Jericho jumping, you have a HUGE signal to just about anyone anywhere that this is a legit option. Whether or not that's true, it's a HUGE sign of belief in it.

Can't be understated how big of a deal that is for them.


Originally Posted by Dark One (Post 5212569)
Also yet another interesting bargaining chip in getting NJPW to play ball, in tandem with Omega surprising them by going "Ehhhh... I'm good man. Gonna go play with my friends." (Presumably)

Those two posts are right on the money. This is an amazing sign of faith from Jericho (since Vince is now going to be heartbroken), and it’s a huge “look at how serious we are”. Great bargaining chip for negotiating with New Japan too. Kenny Omega and Kota Ibushi will also provide that if they sign.


Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5212635)
Not impressed with Jericho going there, only because he ran his mouth patting himself on the back for YEARS about how he would never work for anybody but Vince.

Just don't brag about something like that and I would be fine with him signing there, but as it is him signing there just means he is full of shit and nothing he says means anything.

1. Jericho is a worker.

2. I don’t know if that’s “bragging.”

3. It might have been true at the time.

4. This says how big his move is


Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5212664)
Oh I'm sure Jericho will have a successful run, dude is as close to a sure bet there is in pro wrestling.

That said, it does hurt his credibility.

Neville signing does nothing for me. He is just a rehash character of what he was in WWE, with the addition of WWE held me back. That is the same gimmick every new Impact wrestler had from like 2005-2014.

Neville didn't move the needle as NXT champ, he didn't move the needle upon his WWE callup, and he only moved the needle as a cruiserweight because he actually had a character instead of being a spot monkey guy from the CWC.

If I am being honest, if they want to do something interesting, they need to sign some people that werent already "All In". Otherwise just say off the bat its gonna be the same people and move on.

What do you mean “move the needle”? That seems an odd expression to use for a dude in NXT and on 205 Live when receiving his pushes. Also, he wasn’t “All In”, and they got him. More will come.


Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5212754)
Newest rumor going around the net hints at AEW being very close to getting a tv deal signed and in the range of around $100 million in value.

$100 million is about as high as I thought they could possibly go. Good on them if that is the case. I wouldn’t even want to go as high as Vince, because I think it’s a more effective strategy to make his product overpriced so networks come down on him. That’s going to hurt him (if “hurt” is the right word) way more than anything else.

Ultra Mantis 01-09-2019 06:58 PM

I wouldn't put any stock on Ibushi signing a contract for anybody, especially a foreign company. He doesn't speak any English and is notorious for having constant travel nightmares whenever he goes to the US, including getting on the wrong flight and ending up on the opposite side of the country, locking himself out of the hotel, forgetting which hotel he checked in at, losing his phone and wallet, generally not having a good time. If he's going to be working for AEW it would most likely be freelance.

Mr. Nerfect 01-09-2019 08:35 PM

We’ll see.

Franco Vazquez 01-09-2019 08:39 PM

This Shad and Tony Khan are really shady. They wanted to buy Wembley as well but couldn't. The year he bought Fulham, they got relegated for 5 years so this guy has got that bad luck charm attached to him

slik 01-10-2019 11:29 AM

What do you have against people wearing AEW merch or are you saying F*** WWE?

Evil Vito 01-10-2019 12:58 PM

SlickyTrickyDamon will never say a bad word about WWE

slik 01-10-2019 02:54 PM

Maybe he h8s Jericho

Mr. Nerfect 01-10-2019 07:31 PM

I think STD is implying that trying to block AEW is going to backfire.

xrodmuc316 01-10-2019 11:38 PM


Is this what TPWW has come to, editing people's post?

Mr. Nerfect 01-11-2019 01:56 AM

On Busted Open Radio, Chris Jericho explicitly stated that there were two (and then changed it to three, so who knows?) TV deals on the table, and he suggested that the collective wrestling consciousness would say “Holy shit, that’s what they need.” That’s a far cry “it’s something we’re thinking about” or some other evasive language. Given that standards for TV rights fees have been set so high and very publicly by Vince, I can’t imagine their TV deal being anything other than massive.

slik 01-11-2019 02:12 AM

I read it's rumored at 100 million, no idea the length, which when you think of WWE getting 200 million for RAW and SD each year, is pretty impressive for a company that hasn't had a single event outside of a rally thus far.

I've also read TNT/TBS are possibilities.

Mr. Nerfect 01-11-2019 04:08 AM

TNT and TBS would be the goal. Their size and the history of them and wrestling just make sense. They obviously want to run Tuesdays, but I can see Cody being nostalgic for the 6:05 TBS slot. Honestly, I think TNT just suits. Can they get them to the table? I was reading up on how many people watch TNT during prime time. They get just under 1 million on average. If they get can get even just the numbers TNA had on Spike, they would be doing some good for the network. TNT generally seems to show a movie in that slot. TBS just has Big Bang reruns.

Mr. Nerfect 01-11-2019 05:37 AM

I don’t know how cable operates in the US, but in Australia cable channels that show movies don’t usually interrupt them with commercials (that’s more a free network thing). If it’s the same in the US, being able to block out two hours on a Tuesday that you can sell commercial time to could be a grab.

HBO has been dropped by people recently too. I’m actually kind of surprised they have never done anything with wrestling.

Tom Guycott 01-11-2019 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5213276)
HBO has been dropped by people recently too. I’m actually kind of surprised they have never done anything with wrestling.

Eh. On one hand, it kinda makes sense with things they've done historically - like comedy specials, their own shows, etc. - but on the other, they were all about boxing, and they recently even quit that. I doubt they'd seriously go all in (pun unintentional, but still present) on wrestling if they haven't by now. I could be wrong, but it feels unlikely. But hey, maybe they're looking to hitch to a new and potentially limitless wagon with the imminent end of Game of Thrones to power their subscriptions for HBO GO.

Tom Guycott 01-11-2019 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5213276)
I don’t know how cable operates in the US, but in Australia cable channels that show movies don’t usually interrupt them with commercials (that’s more a free network thing). If it’s the same in the US, being able to block out two hours on a Tuesday that you can sell commercial time to could be a grab.

It basically depends on the station. There's different "tiers" of service, but at this point, just about everyone has the 22/8 min ratio of broadcast to advertisements from free TV to most of your cable stations unless it is on a historically "premium" channel, like HBO, Showtime, or TMC, or strictly PPV. Even some non premium channels that used to not show commercials (like AMC or Turner Classic) have pretty much given up that model years ago, and have gone to interspersed commercials. A few channels even have this weird intermission-like 20 minute infomercial section mid-show instead, but I don't see how that works well when you lose viewers who go surfing for what else is on or go play on thier tablets and phones for that long of a break.

Mr. Nerfect 01-11-2019 07:31 AM

I decided to finally start watching All In. Besides some obvious down points, I’m generally enjoying the show. Stephen Amell put in a hell of an effort for a celebrity. I really got into Cody vs. Aldis. Ian Riccaboni is really impressing me as a commentator. I REALLY like his calls. It’s a shame he’s signed to ROH.

The women’s match was sloppy and the penis stuff is like from another world where bad is supposed to be good, but overall I like it. Oh, a few tech errors and such. That will come with time.

Mr. Nerfect 01-11-2019 08:55 AM

Some more AEW news via The Meltz:

* They’re negotiating with two “major” cable companies for a two-hour prime time show. It’s looking like Tuesday night might not be a thing for them.

* They’re unlikely to get Mayu Iwatani, just because ROH got her her work visa, and they feel it would be rude to get her to work opposite them. They’re apparently planning on bringing in Japanese women though, including Aja Kong.

* The Young Bucks reportedly received major offers from WWE to block AEW. It was allegedly AJ Styles money with Being the Elite continuing on the WWE Network. They also had what Meltzer says he’s never seen before: a six-month out clause if they don’t like their creative direction. People in WWE were shocked they didn’t take them. Triple H and The Bucks talked for about 12 hours.

* Tony Khan seems to be heading up creative.

* Jacksonville in July; Chicago in September.

Evil Vito 01-11-2019 09:19 AM

Some more detail on the contracts that were offered:


Paul Levesque worked hard at getting all four into WWE. Page was offered main roster money to work NXT, where he’d have been pushed as one of its top stars. The Bucks & Cody were offered strong deals. The Bucks deal was for money roughly the same as WWE champion A.J. Styles, which would have also included BTE being made a regular weekly show on the WWE Network, as well as something I’ve never heard WWE concede on, which was a six-month window where they could have left their three-year contract if they wanted and weren’t happy with their push.

Of course, WWE was fully aware of the Khan deal as this was going down, which was one of the reasons they went so hard in locking up talent of late. The great offer with the six-month window was with knowledge that Khan was not doing the promotion without The Bucks & Cody and signing them would keep them from being opposition. Without them, Khan wouldn’t have the star power and stars of All In, meaning he’d likely not have the openings to everything from television to top talent that was necessary.

Those who work in WWE with knowledge of the deal were certain they wouldn’t turn it down, and outright told me that they would be debuting at the Rumble, and had a Rumble-to-Mania significant storyline. When they made the decision to go to AEW, they remarked that it was mind-boggling that they would ever get an offer at that level, and even more that they were turning it down. But they did roughly 12 hours of talks with Levesque, who they heavily praised in how he handled everything, in particular seeing the comedy aspect in the skit they did where they superkicked Kazarian dressed up as him over-and-over in what was the public turning down of the offer on BTE.

Evil Vito 01-11-2019 09:21 AM

Fairly clear WWE are concerned about the prospect of another wrestling company with legit funding opening up. Now they might actually have to try to make themselves better instead of just signing everyone under the sun.

Innovator 01-11-2019 09:24 AM

Hangman does have some sweet music

Mr. Nerfect 01-11-2019 09:53 AM

Hangman is a very good looking guy. Has grown into himself. Looked a bit “bland” when I first saw him, but carries himself very well now.

Mr. Nerfect 01-11-2019 10:12 AM

Jericho’s deal is said to be the best in his entire career.

Jordan 01-11-2019 10:27 AM

I bet it's because he only has to to actually wrestle a handful of dates this year and limited for the remaining two while getting to work a similar if not smaller schedule for NJPW and get paid comparably. I read or herd that he made 500k for his first year in NJPW.

dronepool 01-11-2019 01:30 PM

Awesome. Hope it gives WWE a nice kick in the ass.

slik 01-11-2019 02:08 PM

Dronepool sightings are the best sightings

slik 01-11-2019 02:08 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In case anyone's still wondering where Kenny's going <a href=""></a></p>&mdash; fully grown ninja turtle (@emilyofpratt) <a href="">January 11, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Emperor Smeat 01-11-2019 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by TPWW Frontpage
Cody & The Young Bucks’ Responsibilities

As executive vice presidents, Cody will be focused on singles wrestling, while the Young Bucks will be focused on tag team wrestling, though their responsibilities and decisions will also be shared.

The tag team division will be given a much higher priority than it’s given in WWE.

Considering the dire state of WWE's tag divisions and Vince despising tag wrestling, that's already one thing AEW will have as an advantage. Even NXT goes back-and-forth every so often with the quality of their tag division.

Only other real area they can get a big advantage is with lucha style wrestling considering WWE's historic struggles handling it and creating big Hispanic stars on their own.

ClockShot 01-11-2019 05:53 PM

Still want to know what the "major" cable networks are.

Mr. Nerfect 01-11-2019 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5213355)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In case anyone's still wondering where Kenny's going <a href=""></a></p>&mdash; fully grown ninja turtle (@emilyofpratt) <a href="">January 11, 2019</a></blockquote>
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I don’t really understand this. I’m guessing AEW is claiming on Kenny Omega trademarks? That seems premature if he’s still with New Japan.

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