my first match and promos
 

yikes

I feel you're doing moves you have no clue on how to preform properly and need to hone you skills for moves before putting them in any match. First or 1000th.

I'm not trained by any stretch, but if I were, I wouldn't be pulling off moves before learning the fundamentals of them.

Bit of advice, but if you want to wrestle, learn the absolute basics first. Don't just jump right into a match and try to do ridiculous stuff.

Then again, your trainers might be of the "throw you in there and let you fall" ilk. I don't know. But after reading Jericho's book, I wouldn't want to step foot into the ring and have any type of match unless I was sure I could pull off the moves properly and safely, in addition to having strong basic fundamentals.

This is coming from a fan, nothing more.

This is sad on several levels. Please stop.

The trash talk was just terrible, though.

I am trained, and we did do all those moves safely.

How long have you been training? Give me a general amount of hours of in-ring work.

Probably over 100 if you are talking bumps. but actually in the ring, not very much.

Yeah he wasn't laying flat for the senton or leg drop, but i did what i coud. I think my selling is good, and I can take really good bumps, but i wasn't really given a chance.

yeah his trash talk is kinda.... i dunno

Who trained you. And for how long. And if they got a cent out of you and that's what they taught you, you are the biggest sucker in the world.

The springboard... Punch I suppose, was fucking terrible. Ditto to the corner "drop kick". And the Senton Splash was plain bad. And you being dragged into the ring looked bad.

Basically, you need a shit ton more training, by better trainers, before ever having another "match".

i was trained for free, we didn't get to talk it out before hand, he pretty much trained me for a day and said, you know how to sell, you know how to bump you know some moves, and (he won't take a big bump, like suplexes or firemans carries, etc.) he also let me pin him way earlier than i thought.

You were trained for a DAY? What?

the senton i can do, he just didn't lay properly for it so i kind of adjusted mysef mid air as to not hurt him.

You can explain that away, but the corner drop kick was all you.

I pretty much agree with everything Xero said.

Not trying to be insulting, but you need a lot of work. I think you know that, but some of those moves, especially the senton, looked really bad.

Learn the basics first, get more comfortable, and then worry about being stylish.

Ok but it's a first match. after being in the ring for a day.

Now i have been taking bumps and selling for a while. I've been doing out of ring trainging with guys for a bit, but this was the first time i actually got in a ring. I know how to run the ropes. but I am having a second match tomorrow night which shoud be better. keep in mind we barely talked in the ring.

dont ever pay these people. dont ever go back. they will teach you bad habits that you will never be able to work out of your system. you will hurt yourself and other people. go, get trained. but never go there again.

Was the selling pretty good though?

Then he needs more training too. Really, it's not even about looking good, it's about doing things right so people don't get hurt.

Most of it was good-ish. It didn't help that everything was so loud. I did like the low blow selling, mainly the curling up in the ropes part.

With that said though, some of it was inconsistent. Like sometimes you'd sell for a long time, then other times you'd suddenly drop it and attack without any hint of it.

Holy shit, I can't even remember when the last time I saw Destor was.

Did you enjoy the promos?

Probably before Brian Danielson made his WWE debut.

JUST SAYING.

ps-if dude wasnt layin right for the senton then YOU shouldnt have done the move. it`s your job to protect the worker not to do some fuckin move.

dude wasn't laying right the entire time

sorry guys, it just takes so damn long to load a forum on my phone :-/

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Thank fuck he had the sense to tell you not to suplex him.

we were both safe, neither of us got hurt, i knew how to land things right, dude kept flipping around before i could and stuff so i just worked shit soft as hell. we didn't do anything particularly dangerous.

Takes one awkward position and one slight slip to end a career.

You weren't safe because you didn't know what you were doing and not caring about his safety, just the flow of the match and getting your spots in.

I'm echoing Destor, because it's true.

i know how to do a suplex and various other things, we just didn't htis match. ok it's my first match with no spots. give me a break, pretty good for my absolute first match

then either put him where you want him or dont do the move. what are you some hot shot vet gonna punish the green kid cause he doesnt know what to do? oh, you arent? then shut the fuck up and think about his safety...i fuckin hate you right now. that was back yard bullshit.

For the record, Destor is trained. Just in case you were oblivious to this fact.

and given that the guy didn't give me any moves to bump with (which i am spectacular at bumping by the way) and that he wasn't really helping me out with any moves , i think i did pretty good. didn't even get to run of th eropes, when i tried to the ref was in my way... ugh. next match will be 15 times better, i'll take you guys suggestions and work on it. I'll talk to him about laying flat, and he can work with me some more. but i doubt anybody could do much better with what i have to work with and what litttle training i;ve had

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i did think about his safety which is why i did the move the way i did it.

what are some positive criticisms you could give though?

Why are you put into a position where you essentially have no spots to do that you CAN do? You have very little training. That's fine and dandy. But you're being put into a position where you can't do anything you do know.

You have a long time before you can even have a match. But besides that, the trainers know fuck all about what they're doing to even put you in this position.

here a complete list of the only things you should do in a match until you`ve mastered them all:

hiptoss
arm drag
body slam
closeline (maybe)
crossbody
leap frog
drop down
shoulder block
headlock
school boy
pat o`conner roll
inside cradle

and when i say nothing else i meant it.

How many spots that Destor listed do you know?

This may be a stupid question, but I am going to ask anyway: What is a "pat o'conner roll?"

i'm not sure what a pat o connor role is but i know all the rest

those are the basics. you can have 1,000 completely different matches with just those moves. once you`ve master them then add a new move and remove one of those until you have a flshed out moveset.

IF YOUR FUCKIN TRAINERS NEW ANYTHING THEY WOULD HAVE TOLD YOU THIS ITS DAY ONE MAN. FUCKIN DAY ONE.

SERIOUSLY: you might as well just go into the back yard man. you`lll have the same matches.

ps-walk & talk is what every kid should start with imo. you shouldnt be doin spot for awhile.

I am obsessed with the announcer/referee/blue shirted ass.

pat o`conner is you set in a waist lock, like a german suple, run them into the ropes or buckle and then back roll. they roll onto their shoulders you sit on their ass...like the first have of doug williams finish minus the german.

we didn't even talk though. But thanks destor, next match you will see that i am impleminting your advice. i respect you man thanks.

We went over a lot in the first day it was a 7 hour session, we worked the second day for like 5 hours before the match. we learned a lot of stuff that i just didn't get to use.

You are an idiot. You are not trained. To be trained you go to a properly run wresting school, with a professional trainer, who makes a living doing this. You do not go to some yokel who trains you for free, FOR A DAY, and says you're ready.

You cannot afford to be this stupid. Yard tards are maybe my biggest pet peeve in the business, but yard tards who think they know what they're doing are even worse.

You're going to get seriously hurt, and it'll be your own fault.

oh yeah, sweet, gonna use that.

what about rear naked chokes, ameatuer wrestling, etc.?

You said you'd been training for 100 hours when I said "in-ring". I count 12.

Not without properly learning how to do that you aren't. I fucking forbid it.

Ah. Had no idea that was what it was called. Thank you.

positive notes: work to the center of the ring. it`s the softest. slow down, it`s not a race it`s a marathon.there`s a time to run, and there`s a time to let it settle. never die as a baby this is most true. never just lie out on the mat. at the least be trying to stand if nothing more. make eye contact with the people when you sell. never sell to the mat, it doesnt care if your hurt and it gets in for free.

I love Destor FTR.

:'(

This is a good thread for everyone else out here, wanting to "be a wrassler".. Mind sharing your training experiences, Destor?

Did not know Destor is in training.

I love and miss Destor as well. In a heterosexual kind of way.

I feel like I contributed way too much in this thread considering I'm not trained.

:-\

i trained for 2 years before i started workin. and that about all the info on destor you get today kiddies.

I wish I would have trained... Stupid impracticality.

One day Destor, you will tell me who you are.

http://www.tpww.net/forums/image.php...ine=1244611591
He is... The Cheese.

*Fade to black, dramatic jazz music playing*

i've been earining to take bumps and se since i was 15. that's why i said 100 hours.

your contributions were more legit indifferent "im the fuckin vet" clox

i didn't even make contact witht he senton. and i never said i was a vet

one day i just might kev. but i enjoy the privacy (and cool factor) of a secrete identity too much too just give it up, after all, i`m a kentucky gentlemen. ;)

ok waht about the promos?

From what I'm reading here, it seems like you think you know a lot more than you apparently do.

that`s not the problem clox. its your first match and you throwing your partners saftey into the wind trusting yourself as if you know what you`re doin (you dont btw.) thats a bad way to be aftet YOUR FIRST MATCH.

Allow me to quote the greatest announcer of all time... "Bah Gawd! It looked like a damn car wreck!!!!"

didnt watch the promos...

TNA needs to sign the guy in the speedo.

hence my 1st post in this thread.

Okay, am I the only one who thinks "Dennis Stamp on a Trampoline" when looking at Speedo guy?

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Hey now buddy... Xero knows his shit.

Make no mistake about it, he knows no more than you or me. He just runs his mouth a little more, oh wait a second, a lot more. Now I know he has over 400,000 posts, or whatever the number is, but the fact is he talks out of his ass most of the time. Like I said at the start, he knows no more than any one of us do, so don't put him on some kind of pedestal like he deserves to be there.

I hate to be that guy, but please stop your embarrassing yourself. Your are a fool. Sorry, but it's true. A brave fool, but a fool none the less. This is discusting btw

You are just so stupid it astounds me.

LOL @ the interviewer/ref

Everybody else seems to have the wrestling covered--and seeing as Destor's done quite a bit more in the ring than I have, I'll go ahead and keep my two cents out of his way.

That being said, I am an actor certified with the National Forensics League and have competed at the state and regional level. My oratory is a bit rusty since I never competed out of highschool, but I think I could provide a sufficient word or two concerning the promos.

Let me ask: did you write the promos ahead of time? Did you think about what you were going to say prior, or did you speak on the fly? Did you practice at all prior?

There's alot of mumbling, alot of rushing of certain lines and otherwise inconsistent rates, alot of stuttering and dragging. Statements need to be crisp, concise, clear and audible. If you know you're going to be cutting a recorded promo ahead of time, there's no excuse for not practicing--at the very least to keep you from ssstumbling through lines. The interview looks completely on the fly, and you seem to be fumbling for what to say next at times, or searching for words.

The actual promos, on the other hand... ugh. You at least appear to have thought about what you're going to say, but alot of these lines are just terrible. "Somebody just came by and egged your... house." "All these crazy words flying at you~"

I can literally hear the shaking in your voice. There's no reason to be that nervous on a taped promo, you can just tape back over it if you fuck up. Unless you're a natural improviser--and you're clearly not--you need to be writing all of your shit ahead of time. Actually, seriously writing it. Or typing it in Wordpad, I don't really give a shit. Memorize at least the key points, if not the entire thing--a promo's not really that big to begin with, memorizing it shouldn't be hard. Work toward an actual point and build up to it, don't just work from one rehashed wrestling cliche to another. "This is my ring. Mind games. I'm a killer, I'll retard you or whatever. Be afraid and shit." Pick a point and settle on it, and spend the rest of the promo mountaining up to that.

And for God's sake, play a character. Have a fucking personality. You don't sound intimidating or sadistic or smart. You sound like a kid that watches wrestling alot, that's about fucking all. You need to have some sort of driving agenda behind your character. You're jumping from mindgames to music to movies to sex jokes to poop jokes to whatever the hell just seems to pop into your head at the time, and there's no cohesion or drive or centering point. Are you cocky? Are you crazy? Are you just some dude rambling at the camera? Envisioning what sort of wrestler you're attempting to come across can pave the way toward what you should be saying to your opponent. You're sort of all over the place--saying "ain't" in one promo, but then talking about disabling your opponent's ability to do arithmetic. ...And then talking about music in the next promo.

You're all over the place across what, three promos? You don't need a real gimmick or anything, but it is hard to take a promo anything near seriously when you come off as a kid talking shit. You're trying, first and foremost, to convince either your opponent or your audience (or both) that you're going to win your match. You're attempting to influence opinions and change minds. You're attempting to convince. Keep that in mind. Don't just talk to be talking. Alternatively, you're trying to entertain and/or be humorous, in which case, you have alot of work to do because that was pretty bland.

Referencing WWE and TNA and ROH wrestlers and events in your promos = Unprofessional. Makes you sound like a mark, steer away from it. Period. Your fed is your fed. Your fed is all that matters when you're cutting a promo in it. Pretend other feds don't exist.

Like I said, my actual in ring experience is pretty slim (I'm still in training myself), so some of this might be a little skewed and those with more experience at actual promos than myself can feel free to correct me on any of this. I'm just throwing out some general speech advice, and trying to curve it around wrestling. Really, your stuff's sloppy enough that I don't know honestly know where to begin, I'm just sorta pissing in a lake here.

And for fuck's sake, talk to somebody about firing that guy in the blue shirt.

After watching the second promo for about 30 seconds I'm convinced that your "trainers" have never stepped foot outside the backyard.

Don't know why THAT lead me to this conclusion, but yeah.

Im being trained at a legit place tmrw i just wanted a little ringtime to start out

Okay, you're bouncing between having 100 hours of in-ring training, to being trained for a day, to going to a "legit" place tomorrow.

Which is it?

Nevermind that "a little ringtime" can completely fuck up legitimate training.

still laughin at it.my god you are the worst backyarder ever,even e mailed the link to some mates and they didn think it was real,didnt think someone would embarrass themselves to that extent.

you my friend are joke of the day



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I've been saying he's Chuck Taylor for like 2 years

Clox you suck.

you are an arrogant asshole aswel as a terrible wrestler, dont post this shit if you dont want criticism. you should give up dude, get an office job and leave the 'lets do some wrestling moves' for drunk nights out. 0/10 :n:

"spectacular at bumping' you are such a fag.

:y:

It's amazing how you suck the dick of ROH and then think you can wrestle after one day of training. You realize the work those guys put in? You even thinking you can go a minute in the ring is disrespectful to the guys whose dicks you suck ALL THE TIME.

You are fucking gorgeous, hit him again Dale. Clox and Clark shud fuck like Billy and Chuck

Dude I'm not just saying this to be a jackass or anything, but I was embarrassed for you as I watched that.

HOLY FUCK I JUST ACTUALLY WATCHED IT THERE! Well, I watched up until you performed the 'dropkick' on the almost nude tubby guy anyway, you ran at him, stopped and then fell at him! Fucking hell man, i was better than you when i was 12 and had a tag team ladder match with my mates. This is surely a joke right?? If you were trained, which i highly doubt, id say it was no more than an hour and your trainer was probably Zach Gowan or a highly skilled glass bottle. Pathetic, awful, embarrassing, you are a LOSER in every way

this is so sad/pathetic/hilarious/retarded on so many levels.

how bout before trying to "wrestle" you get the fuck in shape first? maybe start by gaining about 80 pounds so your moves would have maybe an ounce of credibility to them? a scrawny, nonathletic little shit like you has no place in the wrestling world.

how are you mr mcmahon? would you be so kind into giving us the 'scoop' on who is been FE'd next

arsehole.

was that you in the video in the little black thong? bet it was

no, i always wear crotchless chaps to the ring