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Supreme Olajuwon 03-25-2019 08:31 PM

Poll: Is Monday Night Raw the worst show on television?
 
Please vote in poll above.






*note from author* this does not include other WWE properties such as NXT and Smackdown which are quite enjoyable.

SlickyTrickyDamon 03-25-2019 09:17 PM

The answer is Married at First Sight.

Black Widow 03-25-2019 09:21 PM

Nope.

There is plenty worse Maury,anything MTV related,Anything on BET.

Supreme Olajuwon 03-25-2019 09:22 PM

Good discussion starter, STD. Thank you for responding. Question re: Married at First Sight. Does someone yell “Boss Time” when the couples first come out?

SlickyTrickyDamon 03-25-2019 09:24 PM

No but they should yell out 'MISTAKE'

Supreme Olajuwon 03-25-2019 09:28 PM

Hmm. Interesting. Do their “segments” remind you of elementary school kids putting on skits?

xrodmuc316 03-25-2019 09:48 PM

I get you are trying to make a point, but there are hundreds of worse shows.

SlickyTrickyDamon 03-25-2019 09:52 PM

It's not even the worse show on USA Networks.

Supreme Olajuwon 03-25-2019 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5235966)
I get you are trying to make a point, but there are hundreds of worse shows.

Great comment. Looking forward to your list.

Supreme Olajuwon 03-25-2019 10:08 PM

Let’s talk about the reasons to watch Raw. I’ll start:

1) I used to watch it when I was younger.

screech 03-25-2019 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 5235986)
Let’s talk about the reasons to watch Raw. I’ll start:

1) I used to watch it when I was younger.

2) I've had a crush on Stephanie McMahon since 1999.

Ol Dirty Dastard 03-25-2019 10:24 PM

it is at least close to the worst. Can't make it through a segment. And it has nothing to do with it being wrestling. I can enjoy a house show from 1983 from the philly spectrum of msg in its entirety because of the authenticity and atmosphere.

The McMahons should be ashamed at what they've turned raw into. It is despicably bad television.

xrodmuc316 03-25-2019 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 5235978)
Great comment. Looking forward to your list.

There are maybe 10 good shows on television, every other show on TV is the list. Try tvguide.com any day you want, there is your list of worse shows.

#1-norm-fan 03-25-2019 11:37 PM

At least as far as scripted television goes, minute for minute, it HAS to be considered.

#1-norm-fan 03-25-2019 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5236051)
There are maybe 10 good shows on television, every other show on TV is the list. Try tvguide.com any day you want, there is your list of worse shows.

Are you saying Raw is one of the 10 best shows on TV? That’s the only way that every other show would be on the list of worse shows than Raw.

Evil Vito 03-25-2019 11:40 PM

Considering the sheer amount of work it takes to even run the show from a production standpoint...fucking hell I feel bad the crew has to do all that shit week in week out only to churn out such a lousy product.

Tom Guycott 03-25-2019 11:40 PM

Well, since you threw that "minute for minute" qualifier in there, it might just be... since most of the time is ads with a lot of shit segments in between. And occasionally a good match, which used to be the point of this shit.

Tom Guycott 03-25-2019 11:41 PM

Some of that production bloat might be part of the problem, Vito. Especially when it comes to the "writing".

Savio 03-25-2019 11:46 PM

Raw is really bad but there is a lot of shit tv out there that is worse.... Total Divas for instance

Tom Guycott 03-25-2019 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Widow (Post 5235916)
Nope.

There is plenty worse Maury,anything MTV related,Anything on BET.

Look, I know your whole gimmick is being a racist twat and all, but BET is pretty low-hanging fruit. Hell, The Boondocks picked that apart like a decade ago (Aaron himself has always been super critical even when he was just doing the strip years before that), and that wasn't even when that network was at its worst.

And if you're going to take that shot, you have to concede that Lifetime is worse. Everything on there is either a love "comedy" set at Christmas, or of a woman who is "trapped" in an abusive and/or cheating doucebag relationship. That's it. They made a whole network based on the premise that all men are assholes... unless it's the holiday season when you should shack up with one.

xrodmuc316 03-26-2019 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5236065)
Are you saying Raw is one of the 10 best shows on TV? That’s the only way that every other show would be on the list of worse shows than Raw.

You are missing the point, I am not saying Raw isn't mostly bad right now, but it is better than the majority of TV shows because that is how shitty most everything on TV is.

Not counting other wrestling shows, I would feel confident saying Raw is the 11th best show on TV.

Considering all the bullshit reality shows about every kind of job, stupid D list whores, and a bunch of different karaoke shows, that alone proves Raw is not the worst show on TV.

The poll question is flawed, because no, as bad as Raw can be, I'd still rather watch Corbin vs Crews 100% of the time over something like Keeping up with the Kardashians or Teen Mom. Raw at its worst is better than Parking Wars, a show that is literally about giving people parking tickets.

#1-norm-fan 03-26-2019 01:09 AM

I would rather GET a parking ticket than watch a Baron Corbin match.

SlickyTrickyDamon 03-26-2019 01:17 AM

Chrisley Knows Best.

AlexJones 03-26-2019 01:19 AM

It is every American's right to question globalists like Vince McMahon. Especially when he has seized to serve the commonwealth's interest and taking away basic liberties of every hard working American.

xrodmuc316 03-26-2019 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5236078)
I would rather GET a parking ticket than watch a Baron Corbin match.

LOL, fair point.

Mr. Nerfect 03-26-2019 04:26 AM

It’s a really bad show, but is it the worst? I think it makes this blanket category of trash that is hard to quantify.

Juan 03-26-2019 06:36 AM

It’s definitely not the best show on television, but it’s far from the worst.

slik 03-26-2019 09:13 AM

It's not the worst

Overall though WWE has taken a big pretty big nosedive in quality the last two years. It's not the talent, they have the best talent they've ever had, it's entirely the creative aspect, commentary, horrible camera work and the overall booking of RAW and PPVs each week. SD is generally significantly better than RAW every week by a large margin. SD is better than most ppvs they produce actually.

slik 03-26-2019 09:16 AM

I don't foresee things changing for RAW either, from how they are now. Every time they promise change it just gets dressed up and called something else but all the problems remain.

They've taken a big hit in live viewers this year, larger than the drop cable is facing overall. They are down about 500,000 - 600,000 viewers each week from this time last year. I expect things to get back to really boring and dull post WM (especially w/ the matches advertised for EXTREME RULES in it's local markets) and ratings to go back to a 2.2-ish within a few months.

slik 03-26-2019 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 5235986)
Let’s talk about the reasons to watch Raw. I’ll start:

1) I used to watch it when I was younger.

Also, this is true.

I'm hoping if RAW keeps being really bad AEW will pop up and offer a good alternate to WWE (regardless of the night it airs) and I'd consider no longer watching RAW and giving AEW more of my attention as a fan.

Supreme Olajuwon 03-26-2019 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 5235986)
Let’s talk about the reasons to watch Raw. I’ll start:

1) I used to watch it when I was younger.

Quote:

Originally Posted by screech (Post 5235998)
2) I've had a crush on Stephanie McMahon since 1999.

Does anyone want to add to the list?

Maybe you really like Michael Cole telling us where Balor Club has come to that evening?

Supreme Olajuwon 03-26-2019 09:50 AM

Maybe you really like Corey and Renee’s banter?

Supreme Olajuwon 03-26-2019 09:50 AM

Maybe you really like the hard hitting backstage interviews of Charlie Caruso?

Supreme Olajuwon 03-26-2019 09:51 AM

Maybe you love all the promos that somehow manage to come off both over rehearsed and under prepared?

Droford 03-26-2019 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 5236132)
Does anyone want to add to the list?

Maybe you really like Michael Cole telling us where Balor Club has come to that evening?

ITS BOSS TIME

Sepholio 03-26-2019 01:21 PM

I'm just gonna say this. WWE may be shit but everyone who voted it as the worst show on television is being completely hyperbolic and they know it.

Ol Dirty Dastard 03-26-2019 02:38 PM

I dunno, it's pretty damned stanky.

Sepholio 03-26-2019 02:55 PM

IJS if you think it's literally the worst either your sample size for television programs is very small or you have extremely weird taste that has you ranking utter filth ahead of RAW.

Besides, the worst show on TV is the 700 club. Or anything Kardashian related. Or *insert msm news talk show of choice here*. That racist bastard trying and failing to catch fish on some obscure public access channel that has 40 viewers. There are literally thousands of channels with even more shows on. It's damn near impossible to quantify what the worst show on TV is objectively. But I'm about as certain as is humanly possible that it isn't RAW.

That said; it is pretty damned stanky.

Ol Dirty Dastard 03-26-2019 03:49 PM

say what you want about those shows. But none of them are 3 hours long

Seanny One Ball 03-26-2019 03:53 PM

I bet you all still watch it though


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