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Swiss Ultimate 03-16-2012 03:56 PM

DTTS' Official Ask A Poster: DLVH84
 
Hi there. We either never or rarely interact. Let's alleviate this tragedy with an open interview.

1. Who is the greatest mind in professional wrestling today (ie. currently participating in the wrestling world)

2. Who is your all-time favorite wrestler?

3. What makes a good wrestling match for you?

4. What was the last live wrestling event you attended?

5. How many wrestlers do you know?

Rammsteinmad 03-16-2012 04:00 PM

Question number two will have 43 answers.

Swiss Ultimate 03-16-2012 04:10 PM

Only if he cheats.

Corporate CockSnogger 03-16-2012 04:13 PM

Billy Gunn

Swiss Ultimate 03-16-2012 04:40 PM

Correct.

Swiss Ultimate 03-16-2012 08:17 PM

Really thought DLVH84 would have replied back by now.

#1-norm-fan 03-16-2012 08:37 PM

Oh no

#1-norm-fan 03-16-2012 08:38 PM

DLVH84 is currently masturbating to this thread and the upcoming wrestling hipster-ness he is about to unleash on it.

DLVH84 03-16-2012 08:42 PM

1. I would say Verne Gagne, as he was the first man to have his territory break away from the NWA monopoly.

2. Flyin' Brian Pillman. Because he was way ahead of his time with the high-flying and the Loose Cannon persona.

3. It's complex to explain it, due to the various styles I've seen, but I would say a straight up match.

4. The last live event I ever went to was Bound For Glory in Atlanta in 2006.

5. I've met The Naturals, Ron Garvin, Alex Wright, and Chris Benoit.

Destor 03-16-2012 08:46 PM

i think you got no.1 wrong

DLVH84 03-16-2012 08:48 PM

I'm sure, the Midwest (AWA) was the first territory to break away from the NWA back in the 1950s.

Destor 03-16-2012 08:48 PM

the question was currently :o

DLVH84 03-16-2012 08:52 PM

I'd say Paul Heyman. He's very smart and knows what works in an angle, feud, etc, as long as it's not running the company financially. The same thing goes for Michael Hayes as far as booking goes.

#1-norm-fan 03-16-2012 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DLVH84 (Post 3797618)
I'd say Paul Heyman. He's very smart and knows what works in an angle, feud, etc, as long as it's not running the company financially. The same thing goes for Michael Hayes as far as booking goes.

:y:

Xero 03-16-2012 09:38 PM

Paul Heyman is no longer in wrestling.

DLVH84 03-16-2012 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3797657)
Paul Heyman is no longer in wrestling.

True, but when he was, he was a great booker.

Swiss Ultimate 03-16-2012 09:42 PM

I'll accept it though since his website has wrestling articles on it.

Corporate CockSnogger 03-16-2012 09:44 PM

What was your favourite non-North American wrestling match from October 12th 1984?

DLVH84 03-16-2012 09:51 PM

I haven't started watching until 1988.

Corporate CockSnogger 03-16-2012 10:02 PM

My apologies, although it's a shame as I was hoping we could discuss Akira's debut in 1984 against Keiji Mutoh at a New Japan Pro Wrestling (NJPW) event in Saitama, Japan.

CSL 03-16-2012 10:08 PM

KEIJI-OH MUTOH-UHHHHH! MIST-AAAAAAAAHHHHH!

Captain of Fun 03-17-2012 01:49 AM

Keiji Mutoh is pretty great, to be fair.

#1-norm-fan 03-17-2012 01:53 AM

I've watched The Rise and Fall of ECW a lot lately so I'm partial to any mention of the greatness of Paul Heyman.

Vastardikai 03-17-2012 03:58 AM

Who would you rather have Chop you: Kenta Kobashi or Kensuke Sasaki?

Skippord 03-17-2012 09:05 AM

do you think you could beat up Mr. Fuji?

What Would Kevin Do? 03-17-2012 10:02 AM

While awesome in it's original incarnation, is the old AJPW King's Road style the worst thing to happen to wrestling?

Indifferent Clox 03-17-2012 11:46 AM

Give me a more full explanation of kings road and why you think it was bad for the industry please.

I think I have an understanding of kings road but I'd like to hear what you'd say it is.

Captain of Fun 03-17-2012 11:48 AM

Misiwa in the fucking grave, for one.

Destor 03-17-2012 11:51 AM

kings road works a lot like hardcore to be fair. you always end up trying to raise the bar until the only way to raising said bar is by doing 400 head drops a match.

Destor 03-17-2012 11:52 AM

in a long enough timeline it isnt viable

Indifferent Clox 03-17-2012 11:54 AM

Gotcha

Swiss Ultimate 03-17-2012 12:57 PM

One-two head-drops should finish a match. Four max if it's Undertaker or HHH.

Indifferent Clox 03-17-2012 01:00 PM

Depends on the length of the match but I'd say 5 or six is a good number. To be fair though, that would also limit the number of dead on head strikes. Like shouldn't be able to take more than 8 or so before yr knocked out. If they are precise.

Swiss Ultimate 03-17-2012 01:04 PM

Head-drops is not the same as head-strikes. And no, that's fucking ridiculous. One botched tombstone piledriver pretty much kills a guy, it's stupid to have a guy survive that many. How about focus on counters and actual mat-wrestling (or even top rope stuff) instead of risking paralysis by allowing some exhausted midget attempt to pretend drop you on your head and neck continuously while you no-sell it until it's no longer an option.

High risk used to mean something. Impact moves used to matter. Now brain-busters are about as common as restholds...fuck, THEY ARE RESTHOLDS.

Indifferent Clox 03-17-2012 01:11 PM

Ive landed on my head a number of times and not been injured. Yeah any of them could have been fatal but not at that exact angle obviously.

However I agree that it is an uneccesary risk. I think mat work and wrestling is much more important.

Swiss Ultimate 03-17-2012 01:15 PM

I'm just tired of people fucking dying or getting concussions over this kind of shit.

Indifferent Clox 03-17-2012 01:20 PM

You Cn land on yr head from a backdrop, flapjack, northern lights, or belly to back release suplex. I mean they are letting seth rollins do the curb stomp in wwe, and that move fucking sucks. Oh and Vladimir kozlovs chokeslam with he leg is for some reason the stiffest bump.

Indifferent Clox 03-17-2012 01:21 PM

BTW I was talking in kayfabe about the strikes.

Corporate CockSnogger 03-17-2012 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indifferent Clox (Post 3798172)
Ive landed on my head a number of times and not been injured.

Maybe not physically...

Indifferent Clox 03-17-2012 01:33 PM

Hey I don't think its affected me mentally. But probably has effected me mentally.

Corporate CockSnogger 03-17-2012 01:34 PM

It really just depends on whether or not you were borderline retarded before you began getting dropped on your head.

Indifferent Clox 03-17-2012 01:43 PM

Before? Began? Brother I am in a state of eternal headdrop. Still more intelligent than most of the population according to tests. But I don't know hoe much that means toward general intellect other than the ability to retain information. But anyone will think they are smart. Ones own intelligence is pretty hard to be honestly objective about.

What Would Kevin Do? 03-17-2012 01:53 PM

Destor pretty much covered it. But the hard hitting style where guys basically "learn" from previous matches, which results in reversal/counter strings to get more intricate (which is cool), but also results in guys taking multiple big moves/finishers to go down, and also stronger versions of finishers.

I mean, in Dragon Gate I've seen guys kick out of Cima's Schwien off the top rope. I mean, come on.

And the problem now is, or at least recently, is that certain places in the American indy scene have bastardized it rally bad, so it's less about "learning" and building a story over time, and more about "let's hit each other really hard and have a ton of head dropping moves and finishes in a match that doesn't really need it."

So the reason I think it's bad in the long run is that instead of using psychology, it's disregarding psychology for fancy spots.

Indifferent Clox 03-17-2012 02:05 PM

I'd agree with that

Rammsteinmad 03-17-2012 02:09 PM

Getting dropped on your head = workrate.

CSL 03-17-2012 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indifferent Clox (Post 3798167)
Depends on the length of the match but I'd say 5 or six is a good number. To be fair though, that would also limit the number of dead on head strikes. Like shouldn't be able to take more than 8 or so before yr knocked out. If they are precise.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indifferent Clox (Post 3798181)
You Cn land on yr head from a backdrop, flapjack, northern lights, or belly to back release suplex. I mean they are letting seth rollins do the curb stomp in wwe, and that move fucking sucks. Oh and Vladimir kozlovs chokeslam with he leg is for some reason the stiffest bump.

what the fuck are you on about

CSL 03-17-2012 02:39 PM

how in the name of fuck has anybody anywhere ever landed on their head from a flapjack

What Would Kevin Do? 03-17-2012 02:41 PM

The curb stop Seth Rollins is doing is nowhere near as bad as the one Super Dragon does.

Xero 03-17-2012 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3798239)
how in the name of fuck has anybody anywhere ever landed on their head from a flapjack

This is Clox we're talking about. He could probably land on his head from a headlock takedown.

Indifferent Clox 03-17-2012 02:46 PM

That's how great khali killed a dude. Not personally. But if you tuck yr head instead of turning to the side and taking a face bump, and yr high enough, instant death.

whiteyford 03-17-2012 03:07 PM

FFS Clox proof read your posts,especially the ones where you are claiming to be of above average I.Q. , and yr is not a word.

Corporate CockSnogger 03-17-2012 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3798243)
This is Clox we're talking about. He could probably land on his head from a headlock takedown.

Clox lands on his head when putting his socks on.

CSL 03-17-2012 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indifferent Clox (Post 3798244)
That's how great khali killed a dude. Not personally. But if you tuck yr head instead of turning to the side and taking a face bump, and yr high enough, instant death.

and you were using it as some kind of defence that head-drops are okay, like it's "part of the business", which is complete bollocks

Swiss Ultimate 03-17-2012 05:25 PM

Recently watched Macho Man's first matches in the WWF...was so good. Not a single head-drop that I could see.

Indifferent Clox 03-17-2012 05:34 PM

I'm NT defending head drops, I'm just saying I take them. I usually try not to land on my head, and haven't during a match. But during training you take a bunch of different bumps. When you her a little advanced people wanna try different moves includ those which might end in a neck bump. If you practice neck bumps enough you will land on yr head.

Indifferent Clox 03-17-2012 05:35 PM

Hell Johny saint never bumps. But it doesn't mean I'm not gonna take em. Al snow doesn't blade, neither have I, doesn't meaning wont.

Swiss Ultimate 03-17-2012 05:55 PM

Who is Johny saint?

Rammsteinmad 03-17-2012 05:59 PM

Not gonna deny, I love Johnny Saint. He's an old British wrestler from the World of Sport days. His matches with Robbie Brookside and Steve Grey (both I think are on Youtube) were fucking incredible.

CSL 03-17-2012 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indifferent Clox (Post 3798386)
I'm NT defending head drops, I'm just saying I take them. I usually try not to land on my head, and haven't during a match. But during training you take a bunch of different bumps. When you her a little advanced people wanna try different moves includ those which might end in a neck bump. If you practice neck bumps enough you will land on yr head.

bullshit. I've taken a million backdrops, flapjacks, germans, piledrivers etc, more than a couple Northern Lights etc and I've been dropped on my head once ever, be it training or in a match and that was a complete clusterfuck involving a new guy making a mistake under instruction and mistiming. And fucking please "a little advanced" and "wanna try different moves", you sound like fucking kids with some indy tapes and access to a wrestling ring. You are a joke and an embarrassment.

whiteyford 03-17-2012 06:14 PM

Is English even your first language?

whiteyford 03-17-2012 06:14 PM

Not CSL obviously,his native tongue is Jive.

CSL 03-17-2012 06:17 PM

http://collider.com/wp-content/uploa...-GD5791397.jpg

me in the middle :cool:

CSL 03-17-2012 06:17 PM

as if I just made a joke referencing Bee Gees lyrics

Indifferent Clox 03-17-2012 06:19 PM

Come on man. You've never hit yr head on the mat taking a back drop?

Corporate CockSnogger 03-17-2012 06:21 PM

This thread almost took a disco turn.

CSL 03-17-2012 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indifferent Clox (Post 3798426)
Come on man. You've never hit yr head on the mat taking a back drop?

not that I recall. I've landed on my arse, my legs, my feet, my hips, I've had my thighs collide in a mini-domnio effect and crush my nads etc. But not my head. Even so, that's not the point. Yes people can land on their heads accidentally/take the occasional bad bump etc. But you're saying "you take them", that stuff you practice regularly involves a situation where you could land like that/where it would be acceptable for that to happen. And that is fucking bullshit. That's the whole point. It's fucking laziness. It's taking short cuts. It's doing dumb reckless shit (and I mean shit) for the sake of doing dumb reckless shit to get a reaction. And it's so fucking widespread nowadays, especially amongst these skinny fucking mongs that are coming in every day to "learn to wrestle" because their latest Dragon Gate StiffHeadDropMania III tape is full of guys that look just like them and they wanna do that shit and the only thing they think you need to do to become/to be able to tell their friends that they're a "professional wrestler" nowadays is buy a pair of kickpads, the latest indy tape and go training with some clueless bellend once a week. It's fucking everywhere

Skippord 03-17-2012 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3798423)

dear God their pants are enthralling

Indifferent Clox 03-17-2012 06:52 PM

Probably landed on my head maybe 3 times to clarify.

Indifferent Clox 03-17-2012 06:55 PM

Also I trained almost everyday and now I train 2-3 tines a week. I'm definetly getting better. My training partner is a 300 pound 6'7 black dude who played college football as a linebacker. Yeah.....

He's mad good though.

He's not training me though. My trainers have both been in the business 18 years.

Rammsteinmad 03-17-2012 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3798452)
not that I recall. I've landed on my arse, my legs, my feet, my hips, I've had my thighs collide in a mini-domnio effect and crush my nads etc. But not my head. Even so, that's not the point. Yes people can land on their heads accidentally/take the occasional bad bump etc. But you're saying "you take them", that stuff you practice regularly involves a situation where you could land like that/where it would be acceptable for that to happen. And that is fucking bullshit. That's the whole point. It's fucking laziness. It's taking short cuts. It's doing dumb reckless shit (and I mean shit) for the sake of doing dumb reckless shit to get a reaction. And it's so fucking widespread nowadays, especially amongst these skinny fucking mongs that are coming in every day to "learn to wrestle" because their latest Dragon Gate StiffHeadDropMania III tape is full of guys that look just like them and they wanna do that shit and the only thing they think you need to do to become/to be able to tell their friends that they're a "professional wrestler" nowadays is buy a pair of kickpads, the latest indy tape and go training with some clueless bellend once a week. It's fucking everywhere

HEY!!!

I wear kickpads!

:foc:

Rammsteinmad 03-17-2012 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indifferent Clox (Post 3798468)
Also I trained almost everyday and now I train 2-3 tines a week. I'm definetly getting better. My training partner is a 300 pound 6'7 black dude who played college football as a linebacker. Yeah.....

He's mad good though.

I love how you specifically pointed out that he is a 'black dude'. :lol:

Corporate CockSnogger 03-17-2012 07:00 PM

I put my sister in the sharpshooter once, pretty sure that makes me as much of a wrestler as Clox.

CSL 03-17-2012 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indifferent Clox (Post 3798468)
Also I trained almost everyday and now I train 2-3 tines a week. I'm definetly getting better. My training partner is a 300 pound 6'7 black dude who played college football as a linebacker. Yeah.....

He's mad good though.

I was talking about in general as opposed to you when it comes to the training part, although with everything you say you certainly fit the bill.

And what do you mean "training partner"? As in, you only train with one guy?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 3798472)
HEY!!!

I wear kickpads!

:foc:

you aren't the first person even this week to say this to me when I go off. tbh plenty of guys wear kickpads who are great, Punk, Jericho, Van Dam, Edge etc, just like 90% that wear them elsewhere are shitttttt. That and I bought proper boots after like my 3rd match or something http://www.tpww.net/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

Rammsteinmad 03-17-2012 07:11 PM

I have proper boots too. In fact, I bought them for my first match waaaaay back in 2003. :p

But I move better and feel more flexible with kickpads. And they look cooler.

Rammsteinmad 03-17-2012 07:14 PM

In fact, it's not the kickpads that annoy me, it's the thousands of indy guys that just wear baggy PVC shorts and a tank top. So CSL... what's your attire?

CSL 03-17-2012 07:16 PM

just remember how flexible and comfortable you feel when you Van Dam your ankle http://www.tpww.net/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif and c'mon son, unless you have some bwadass kickpads to go with bwadass gear like Sabin/Punk/Gabriel, they don't look cooler at allll

Rammsteinmad 03-17-2012 07:18 PM

If you're referring to trunks... that's what I wear. Along with wrestling trainers with 'ankle supports'. My boots are in England, no way would I plan on buying another pair here in Germany, things seem to have gotten mad expensive over here.

James Steele 03-17-2012 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 3798488)
In fact, it's not the kickpads that annoy me, it's the thousands of indy guys that just wear baggy PVC shorts and a tank top. So CSL... what's your attire?

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2708/4...a39_z.jpg?zz=1

Rammsteinmad 03-17-2012 07:21 PM

Needs kneepads!!! :nono:

CSL 03-17-2012 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 3798488)
In fact, it's not the kickpads that annoy me, it's the thousands of indy guys that just wear baggy PVC shorts and a tank top. So CSL... what's your attire?

baggy pleathers are the worst, I'd use those as reference as opposed to kickpads but kickpads are far more prevalent.

and


http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2708/4...a39_z.jpg?zz=1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 3798494)
If you're referring to trunks... that's what I wear. Along with wrestling trainers with 'ankle supports'. My boots are in England, no way would I plan on buying another pair here in Germany, things seem to have gotten mad expensive over here.

nah, I meant just guys that have clearly put some time/thought/spent some money on their gear, not any particular style

CSL 03-17-2012 07:25 PM

*random question for DLVH84*

Rammsteinmad 03-17-2012 07:30 PM

Just feel like listing this for the hell of it, all my wrestling attire/gear consists of:

3 pairs of trunks
1 pair of PVC shorts (but not the baggy ones, kinda like Jeff Jarretts)
1 pair of tights that I only wore once

1 pair of boots
1 pair of wrestling trainers
1 pair of kickpads (but gonna order some new ones with a design soon as mine are plain black)

2 pairs of elbow pads, but I only really use these for training
2 pairs of knee pads, one pair with velcro straps :cool:

And a few random things like wrists supports/straps/bands/tape etc.

I try to be as professional as I can. But I know what you mean, I've come across a lot of guys who wrestle in baggy shorts and a sports t-shirt whilst wearing biker boots, and they think of themselves as wrestlers.

Indifferent Clox 03-17-2012 07:30 PM

Right now mainly its just me and octavious black training with Dave Pillman. I also train with Evan Turner.

I have trained with large groups before as well. Just not so much ATM. Differnet schedules.

Indifferent Clox 03-17-2012 07:33 PM

I have some handmade tights that are awesome. I tried posting pics but ill have to figure it out at a time when I am less distracted. My boots I got off highspots.
Both are black andsilver. My tights have the jackass skull and crutches mixed with the punisher but its missing a tooth. One side is Gunmetal silver.

Skippord 03-17-2012 07:34 PM

Evan Turner the basketball player?

James Steele 03-17-2012 07:48 PM

http://theantisocialmedia.com/wp-con...cial-Media.jpg

CSL 03-17-2012 07:49 PM

that would be the name of Kris P Lettus's finish

CSL 03-17-2012 07:50 PM

BOOM

YEAHHHHH


http://easyquestion.net/thinkagain/w.../HighFive.jpeg

http://bubbasmith.net/wp-content/upl...11/07/7177.jpg

James Steele 03-17-2012 07:55 PM

http://fringebowlteamblog.com/images...p_clap_gif.gif

CSL 03-17-2012 07:57 PM

thank you thank you :'(

please, stop

Swiss Ultimate 03-17-2012 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iginfest (Post 3798475)
I put my sister in the sharpshooter once, pretty sure that makes me as much of a wrestler as Clox.

I put my kids in the Boston Crab and deliver a lot of Rock Bottoms, elbow drops etc.

By this logic they'll be in ROH by the time they hit puberty.

James Steele 03-17-2012 08:03 PM

Clox, correct my mark ass if I'm incorrect, but isn't one of the main points of "wrestling training" to learn how to make us think you are getting dropped on your head...when you actually aren't? I believe it was Jim Cornette who said "Wrestling used to be guys pretending to hurt each other and fans believed it, now guys are really hurting each other and fans don't believe it. Who is the fucking mark?"

DLVH84 03-17-2012 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 3798006)
Who would you rather have Chop you: Kenta Kobashi or Kensuke Sasaki?

I'd say Kobashi.

DLVH84 03-17-2012 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do? (Post 3798065)
While awesome in it's original incarnation, is the old AJPW King's Road style the worst thing to happen to wrestling?

In the old days, there wasn't many dropping on their heads as many concieve. I believe it went into overdrive, as Baba started pushing the Famous Five (Misawa, Kawada, Taue, Kobashi, and Akiyama) in the 1990s.

James Steele 03-17-2012 08:29 PM

Kawada, Taue, and Akiyama were not even in the same breath at Misawa and Kobashi. That is like saying the WWF Attitude Era's "Famous Five" were Rock, Austin, Road Dogg, Val Venis, and Big Bossman.

Swiss Ultimate 03-17-2012 08:51 PM

Who were the WWF Attitude Era's "Famous Five"?

James Steele 03-17-2012 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathtotheSwiss (Post 3798603)
Who were the WWF Attitude Era's "Famous Five"?


Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, 1-2-3 Kid

Swiss Ultimate 03-17-2012 09:07 PM

Didn't Kevin and Scott leave before Attitude started? I always figured it started a little after they left.

I'd say Triple H (as head of DX), Austin, Rock, Mankind and Vince McMahon.

James Steele 03-17-2012 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathtotheSwiss (Post 3798619)
Didn't Kevin and Scott leave before Attitude started? I always figured it started a little after they left.

I'd say Triple H (as head of DX), Austin, Rock, Mankind and Vince McMahon.

They ran the entire industry.

Swiss Ultimate 03-17-2012 09:51 PM

Fair enough...but X-Pac was more in the same league as Billy Gunn and Road Dogg in my opinion.


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