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slik 04-11-2017 09:58 PM

Send Jinder back to NXT or to a Wellness Test ASAP

Get better soon Finn!

#HinderJinderPlease

DAMN iNATOR 04-11-2017 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 4955508)
Do all refs wear gloves? Or just this guy?

I think they all do as a precaution in case they need to deal with a bloodied superstar.

ClockShot 04-11-2017 09:59 PM

Thanks Sami. You're a team player.

ClockShot 04-11-2017 09:59 PM

Pretty good for a triple threat. Corbin's getting better, imo.

Droford 04-11-2017 09:59 PM

Jericho gonna win the US Title

Y2AJ Re-explodes

Juan 04-11-2017 10:00 PM

Good match

Droford 04-11-2017 10:04 PM

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...18&oe=5950E084

Triple A 04-11-2017 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 4955480)
Raw was in NYC (sort of) last night and I was expecting the crowd to sing along to The Revival's them and "SAY YEAH".

Nope.

And New York City regularly has some smart fans there.

Long Island sucks.......

Simple Fan 04-11-2017 10:23 PM

Was hoping Gallows and Anderson would have come over and I think Smackdown could have used another tag team as well.

Emperor Smeat 04-11-2017 10:30 PM

Is it going to be a fish in the box?

Guess not although not sure its a wise idea to piss off Alicia.

Evil Vito 04-11-2017 10:45 PM

Heel TJ Perkins is miles better than face TJ Perkins.

Fitting too cause I want to boo TJP.

#1-norm-fan 04-11-2017 10:54 PM

Can't imagine going to a Smackdown and sticking around for 205 Live. How do they get anyone in the crowd to do that? Much less enough to not make it look weird on TV.

#1-norm-fan 04-11-2017 10:55 PM

Or does it look weird on TV? I haven't been watching.

Emperor Smeat 04-11-2017 10:58 PM

:lol: at Ziggler trying to hype up the Shining Stars as a great acquisition for Smackdown.

Poit 04-11-2017 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4955527)
Can't imagine going to a Smackdown and sticking around for 205 Live. How do they get anyone in the crowd to do that? Much less enough to not make it look weird on TV.

Last week we had a Nakamura/Ziggler dark match after 205 Live to get people to stay.

Also, 205 Live has good wrestling.

#1-norm-fan 04-11-2017 11:06 PM

Most of the time the crowd doesn't seem to really care about the cruiserweights when they're on Raw though. An entire show with them AFTER Smackdown is so bizarre. It's like if they taped Velocity after Smackdown back in the day. I'd just be like "Um... This is weird and anti-climactic. I'm going home."

Emperor Smeat 04-11-2017 11:14 PM

:lol: at them talking randomly about shoes and Owens having cheap ones on Talking Smack.

Triple A 04-12-2017 03:45 AM

Watched YouTube highlights

JBL seemed like he was trying to be "extra nice and friendly" all night... feel bad for him kinda

Triple A 04-12-2017 03:46 AM

Becky Lynch looks different and "hotter"

#BROKEN Hasney 04-12-2017 04:57 AM

Ignoring the womens and tag divisions still being a little anaemic, happier with the SD roster than I was before the shakeup. Sami, KO and Rusev should fit in well and I love Nak, AJ and Tye. It's made it more the in-ring show.

Lost it at the Tamina intro and I kinda like Primo and Epico in the ring when they don't have a shitty gimmick.

Fuck Jinder though.

Dewidi 04-12-2017 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4955318)
Kind of funny WWE teases a possible stable of Joe, Owens, and Triple H going into Mania and then drops it as quickly as it started.

That's the WWE for you a lot of what they do makes no sense like putting the raw world title on Crock Leastnerd

Dewidi 04-12-2017 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4955527)
Can't imagine going to a Smackdown and sticking around for 205 Live. How do they get anyone in the crowd to do that? Much less enough to not make it look weird on TV.

Its prob taped b4 smackdown and they just say its live they had 3 or 4 OVW matches
One time when I went here in Louisville that only were seen on OVWs show on sats / Sun

Ruien 04-12-2017 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by #BROKEN Hasney (Post 4955594)
Ignoring the womens and tag divisions still being a little anaemic, happier with the SD roster than I was before the shakeup. Sami, KO and Rusev should fit in well and I love Nak, AJ and Tye. It's made it more the in-ring show.

Lost it at the Tamina intro and I kinda like Primo and Epico in the ring when they don't have a shitty gimmick.

Fuck Jinder though.

Rusev for Wyatt is fair but I think losing Miz for Owens (or anyone) is a huge loss. Imo.

#BROKEN Hasney 04-12-2017 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 4955612)
Rusev for Wyatt is fair but I think losing Miz for Owens (or anyone) is a huge loss. Imo.

Nah, his shoot promos can be seen on YouTube and he wasn't great in the ring still, so I like it. Owens can do both.

Blonde Moment 04-12-2017 08:46 AM

The more I listen to shinsuke nakamura's theme the more I think he had the reaction he is getting from it in mind when he wanted his theme "just right".

Evil Vito 04-12-2017 09:01 AM

Now that it's over with, I gotta say I really loved doing trades like this instead of the arbitrary "random" draft. If you line the trades up side by side it's really not hard to see why most of them made sense from a kayfabe perspective.

Miz for Zayn: Bryan obviously hates Miz and would look for any excuse to get rid of him, there's every reason to expect he'd want Sami on his roster, and Sami's already annoyed Angle with his neurotic gimmick.

Ambrose for Owens: Bryan positioned this as more of a title for title swap since whoever wins the US Title match at Payback goes to SmackDown - guessing he just wanted to move Ambrose off because he and Corbin were killing each other and he knew he'd get back somebody good no matter what.

Alexa and Mickie for Charlotte: Angle's getting two for one value and Bryan's getting the one who has clearly been positioned as the best women's wrestler on the roster. Also he signed Tamina separately so no loss in headcount for the division.

Wyatt for New Day: It makes sense for a guy who just lost the WWE title a week ago to cost more than one person and allows Bryan to beef up a tag division that needs it.

Slater/Rhyno for Primo/Epico: Angle views it as a chance to bring in recent champions while Primo and Epico work a style Bryan prefers.

Crews/Kalisto for Rusev/Jinder: If you group these guys together I could see the logic. Angle's getting two really talented guys who were underutilized on SmackDown and who could feasibly team up, Bryan's getting a guy who is hurt but should be a beast when he's back, and Jinder who has improved and has a built-in feud with a SmackDown guy already.

Hawkins for Sin Cara: Hawkins has not won a match but Sin Cara doesn't even get booked, I just see this as a straight up change of scenery move.

Maryse for Lana: Just swapping spouses/managers for people that were already involved in other trades.

Ezra 04-12-2017 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Maluco (Post 4955378)
Ascension, Breezango, Shooting Stars!??

Smackdown tag division is STACKED!!

Harper and Rowan will go back to teaming, I reckon and of course you have New Day.

Edit: IM sure this has been answered by now. For some reason when I click on the thread it took me to this post.

Ezra 04-12-2017 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dewidi (Post 4955609)
Its prob taped b4 smackdown and they just say its live they had 3 or 4 OVW matches
One time when I went here in Louisville that only were seen on OVWs show on sats / Sun

It's done live on the network after Smackdown. Definitely not the best idea.

Jordan 04-12-2017 11:39 AM

AJ is a great "Face" of Smackdown, the kids love him and so do the marks. He's the fucking man right now.

Cool King 04-12-2017 12:35 PM

• I thought for a second yesterday that Owens would be traded and that the match with Jericho would still go ahead but whoever was the US Champion after the match would be on SmackDown but then I thought that the WWE would never do anything like that, so I counted Owens out for being on SmackDown.

How wrong was I.

Seeing Owens shaved and in a suit makes him look like someone's dad who always has a "hard day at the office". He really needs to change his hairstyle though, as a short back and sides with tiny gelled spikes on the top just screams "1999". If he's going to be this smartly dressed slow/calmly talking heel (just like Jericho in 2008) then a hairstyle change is needed.

• I almost cried when Zayn's music hit. With both Owens and Zayn on SmackDown, it means we're going to get Zayn vs Owens #3314 and beyond for the next year at least.

• The Tag Team Championship match was so good. I'd actually say it was the best match of the night.

Primo & Epico appearing was a real surprise. They were one of my "wild picks" for SmackDown. I really wanted them to go to SmackDown but I really felt like it would never happen.

With them attacking American Alpha in the way that they did, it fills me with some hope for the guys. I really want these guys to succeed on SmackDown and not just be the wasted talent they were on Raw.

• Another one of my "wild picks" was Jinder Mahal, so seeing him on SmackDown was another good moment for me. Just like Primo & Epico, I want Jinder to succeed on SmackDown but that all went down the drain with his match with Mojo.

I fail to see how Mojo is the good guy in all this or how it makes him look good when stacked up against Mahal.

In both meetings, Mojo has beaten Mahal but only with the help of some american football player. It actually makes me feel bad for Mahal that he's getting screwed out of wins because the referee won't DQ Mojo for outside interference.

• Nice swerve from Shane. I completely forgot about Tamina but it's good to see her back.

Charlotte was one change we all knew but I felt a bit bad for Tamina during it all. It was like she was some kind of afterthought and the "real news" was Charlotte.

• Sin Cara on SmackDown? Why?

Why not keep him on Raw for the Cruiserweight Division? He's just going to take the place of Kalisto on SmackDown and be the unused masked luchador that's missing out on the Cruiserweight Division.

• I was again, surprised that Rusev was traded. I thought he would have been but I changed my mind and counted him out due to him being out with an injury.

I think SmackDown is going to be great for Rusev.

• Before, Aiden English was a tag team jobber with a Vaudeville gimmick. Now, he's a singles jobber with a singing gimmick.

As for <s>Mr. Perfect 2K17</s> Tye Dillinger, I want to like the guy, I really do, but this "TEN!" bullshit from the crowd is just so annoying and off-putting.

I get that the ten thing is his gimmick but when the crowd constantly yells "TEN!" at everything and even during the referee's count, it just quickly gets annoying.

It's like the new "WHAT!?" but the only difference is that "WHAT!?" took a good while to get annoying. "TEN!" is annoying from the get-go. It's up there with "DELETE!" and Enzo Amore.

• Whoa, Lana.

• When is Nakamura actually going to have a match?

• New Day going to Raw is another one we all knew was happening.

Seeing Saxton's reaction to the news just reminded me of how terrible he is and how we need Graves to be next to him to shoot him down when Saxton gets too "Saxton-like".

It also made me wonder what Graves is going to do now that Saxton is gone from Raw. Some of Graves' best stuff was his put-downs towards Saxton. I really can't see Otunga providing any opportunities for Graves to work his magic now on Raw.

• With AJ winning, it's pretty much obvious that Owens is retaining at Payback.

• Overall, SmackDown did get some goodies, but I think Raw came out on top which is not really surprising as it's Raw.

However, I really think SmackDown can continue on with the trend of being the superior show and making magic out of the lesser hand they've been dealt.

Simple Fan 04-12-2017 01:06 PM

I don't see Tye going far either. I don't even understand what his gimmick is, is he's perfect 10 or is 10 the only number he knows. I'd think a guy that thinks he's a perfect 10 would 've more of a heel.

#1-norm-fan 04-12-2017 01:12 PM

So... If Chris Jericho wins the US title, he goes to Smackdown?

Does that mean if Bray Wyatt wins the World title, he goes back too?

Ezra 04-12-2017 01:16 PM

Don't always try to make sense of storylines lol.

Evil Vito 04-12-2017 01:18 PM

Probably, but we all know he isn't winning so it's a bit moot.

I'm guessing the Demon Balor shows up during the House of Horrors to cost Bray the match. Genuinely no idea who Orton's next program would be with. Corbin maybe?

Simple Fan 04-12-2017 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED (Post 4955636)
Probably, but we all know he isn't winning so it's a bit moot.

I'm guessing the Demon Balor shows up during the House of Horrors to cost Bray the match. Genuinely no idea who Orton's next program would be with. Corbin maybe?

Ideally it would be Styles but I don't see that now with him in the US title picture. Doubt they'd put Nak into the main event that quick but he could after he's done with Ziggler. Corbin seems most likely though so it can be heel vs face.

XL 04-12-2017 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 4955631)
I don't see Tye going far either. I don't even understand what his gimmick is, is he's perfect 10 or is 10 the only number he knows. I'd think a guy that thinks he's a perfect 10 would 've more of a heel.

Aha, the beauty of all of a characters' progression being on NXT. He was a heel, but the fans started to like him and he became a face. Now he's on SDL and anyone that didn't watch NXT will be incredibly confused by it all.

Destor 04-12-2017 01:41 PM

Smart moves ll around. Hope Streen goes to SD. Mid card seems good there.

Simple Fan 04-12-2017 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 4955653)
Aha, the beauty of all of a characters' progression being on NXT. He was a heel, but the fans started to like him and he became a face. Now he's on SDL and anyone that didn't watch NXT will be incredibly confused by it all.

Ok, still needs something though. To be a perfect 10 he looks kind of average. I'd seen some of his NXT stuff but only as a face. Definitely needs more character development on the main roster.

#1-norm-fan 04-12-2017 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED (Post 4955636)
Probably, but we all know he isn't winning so it's a bit moot.

From a trade... I mean... SUPERSTAR SHAKEUP standpoint though... The entire situation is a mess.

I know trying to fill in the plot holes to make WWE make sense is a lost cause but I still try, dammit.

Ruien 04-12-2017 02:03 PM

They probably traded the US and IC belt.


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