There were things I liked but a lot of things I disliked. Too much overly-choreographed shit. But damned if some of it didn't look fabulous.

What potential star power?

You know.... where you see the dude and go "Ok, I could see buying him as a legit "main event" player".......

Being a main event we doesn’t make someone a star

There are no stars in wrestling anymore.

Not sure why I haven’t killed myself yet.

Because there is still a star... in your heart (and his name is Lock Jaw)

Nothing wrong with an unprotected chair shot if the performer is down for it. I think it's pathetic that most fans are turned off by something that Cody gave so much for. I've even heard it didn't progress anything, bullshit he's clearly going to want to beat Spears ass now. It was probably my favorite moment of the show and Cody is their MVP right now.

So sorry we don't want to see somebody turn into a monster like Chris Benoit or take their own life like Chris Boogard or Junior Seau.

Seriously, fuck you.

By the way This Dark Order gimmick fucking sucks, is Kevin Sullivan an advisor on creative? The Librarians, as recorded also sucks. Kenny playing a goof with stupid hair also sucks and doesn't make him come off as a major star. Good thing Cody is bringing it.

There's still 2 they just arent full time.

Every wrestler who ever took a chair shot either killed someone or themselves. Got it.

Going to give the Dark Order more time, never seen the wrestle before. The librarian stuff does suck. Leva Bates is better than that gimmick. If it was just Peter Avalon it'd probably be better. Thought the stuff with Kenny was fine just based on the show being centered around a video game expo or whatever it was. Cody is fucking bringing it though.

What is the Dark Order?

Leva Bates is terrible. Peter Avalon I used to see on Championship Wrestling from Hollywood and he is a good hire (imo).

He was also Norv Fernum in TNA. Did some squash matches with EC3.

The guys with the mask that turn the lights out and surround the ring. Think they're just a tag team with the big dude and the guy without a mask. They had a Super Smash Bros gimmick on the Indies but they can't use that in AEW obviously.

Oh I forgot about them

Are they any good?

Not sure never seen anything from them. Why I'm waiting to see how they are in the ring. I can get with the gimmick but apart from the guy without a mask the rest seem silly and not what I'd expect from something called Dark Order but we'll see.

I feel like I'm watching THE GUY when Cody is on.

Hi early never thought I'd be strong in him either. I mean he's always been above average but now it's all coming together big league.

Would be a decision if Cody was repackaged as an early 90s radical rassler and called himself CODACULAR and wore Zubaz pants

AEW could then hire Dolph Ziggler and he and CODACULAR could feud

I'm fucking dead:lol:

Also, this. First of all, it's a choice. And most wrestlers aren't killing themselves or their families because of chair shot induced cte. If Cody decided that's what he wanted to do, and Brandi was ok with it seeing as she's his wife, them by all means. I don't agree with it, but I'm not going to pretend that Cody taking an unprotected chair shot affects my enjoyment of the show. It's his choice.

On a related note, would anyone be opposed top chair shots of they were done similar to belt shots?

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Basically, hold the chair by its sides instead of its legs and it the other guy with it like you would with a title belt as opposed to swinging it. Seems like a much safer alternative while still being an effective use of a chair.

I say treat chair shots like that as if they were the piledrivers in the old days. Make them rare, but important.

I can get behind that.

Her butt in those shorts wasn't terrible.

I'm actually interested what exactly they do with this. MJF is a disingenous little shit who talks trash to everyone and anyone EXCEPT Cody. Conventional wisdom would say that he's "sucking up", but he actually shits on everyone else who would be "above" him in prestige and pecking order as well. He's even been openly antagonistic with Brandi.

It's only Cody specifically that he pretends to be nice around. He's a full on heel EXCEPT he actually for some as yet kayfabe unexplained reason wants Cody specifically to think highly of him. Like a "please love me, dad" thing. He's a royal asshole to everyone else in the world, but he needs Cody to see him as a good person. I see (hoping to see) one day Cody becoming "disappointed" in him, and MJF flips his shit because that's the one person whose opinion matters to him.

That can go for a lot of things: make them rare but important. But that's the rub- even without the accidental hardway, how rare will it stay?

It doesn't matter if her pants aren't blue. Not one bit.

Watched this last night. Really good show. Was impressed with Darby Allen even tho he's really small.

I can see where they're trying to go with Page but I wonder if they're going to be able to get him over the hump as a future star. Feel like MJF has out shined him twice.

MJF my new fave heel. Love his schtick and I love the undying love for Cody thing they're running with. I agree with Tom. A long term program where MJF loses it because Cody looks down on him for something would be spectacular.

Moxely v Janella was fun. The bare foot spot on the tacks was fun and Moxely looks as good as I remember seeing him.

So far the long term stories coming out of the last 2 shows are Cody v Shawn Spears, Moxley v Omega, and Page v MJF.

I really think Jericho is going to be there first champ. Don't think Page is ready.

I was impressed with Darby Allin too, but....

Fucking daisy dukes over yoga pants. Like, are you dressing for a match, or to go shopping at wal-mart at 3 a.m.?

I think his ring gear and overall look is cool... remember feeling immediately intrigued the first time I saw him at some EVOLVE show

He also took a bunch of insane bumps in that first match I saw and spent a lot of it inside of a body bag with thumb tacks in it . . . and broke his elbow via being hit with a shovel and had to miss like 5 months of time... was immediately a big fan

Thats because you probably wear daisy dukes over yoga pants.

His fear helps him stand out. I'm fine with it.

Fear of what? Clothing that doesn't garner confused stares?

Further argument that we must move on to the wicker chair shot.

It has to be time.

Wicker is so scratchy though. Think of the children.