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Evil Vito 10-27-2019 12:05 PM

Jordan Myles calls out Vince and Triple H over his t-shirt
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I will keep posting this till my voice is heard. I’m not sorry for anything I say or do. <br><br>Representation is important.<br><br>If this is <a href="https://twitter.com/VinceMcMahon?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@VinceMcMahon</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/TripleH?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TripleH</a> “vision” of me then this is a slap in the face to EVERY African American performer, fan, and supporter. <a href="https://t.co/S6Gtg9e4lP">pic.twitter.com/S6Gtg9e4lP</a></p>&mdash; Jordan Myles (@GoGoMyles) <a href="https://twitter.com/GoGoMyles/status/1188393687983759360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 27, 2019</a></blockquote>
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lol who the fuck thought this was a good idea?

Droford 10-27-2019 12:09 PM

I don't get it

Gerard 10-27-2019 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 5296024)
I don't get it

The logo is reminiscent of the old stereotype with big red lips and the text being the teeth.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I'm I reaching here or nah ����... <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JordanMyles?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JordanMyles</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a> <a href="https://t.co/LRaimBTLCu">pic.twitter.com/LRaimBTLCu</a></p>&mdash; Raphael Wilson (@089968Raph) <a href="https://twitter.com/089968Raph/status/1188435515969822721?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Evil Vito 10-27-2019 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 5296024)
I don't get it

Somehow I’m not surprised.

Sepholio 10-27-2019 01:07 PM

This is the hill he's going to die on? That shirt? I'd immediately be firing him if I was Vince/HHH. Everything isn't about fucking race. It's a shit shirt.

Sepholio 10-27-2019 01:09 PM

Id also give him the entire stock of those shirts as part of his severance.

Simple Fan 10-27-2019 01:33 PM

They had to make up for giving him one if the whitest names possible.

xrodmuc316 10-27-2019 02:34 PM

I don't know about anybody else, but me that looks like an open mouth with the teeth being the letters, not his name on big red lips.

Granted, if it can be taken either way, then somebody should have caught that, but I cant say it doesn't look like a smile to me.

RP 10-27-2019 02:59 PM

That is fucking hilarious.

Triple A 10-27-2019 03:26 PM

He retweeted this also, about WWE making him "another black wrestler who just loves to 'Have a good time & entertain.'"

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I was fortunate to work at a gym where <a href="https://twitter.com/GoGoMyles?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@GoGoMyles</a> was a member. Seriously he's one of the kindest people one will meet. Even back in 2016, I was afraid <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWE</a> would make ACH another black wrestler who just loved to &quot;Have a good time &amp; entertain.<a href="https://twitter.com/WWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWE</a>, DO BETTER!!! <a href="https://t.co/ZJdnxU3x74">https://t.co/ZJdnxU3x74</a></p>&mdash; Bill Finkbiner (@BillFinkbiner) <a href="https://twitter.com/BillFinkbiner/status/1188516155822084096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Black Widow 10-27-2019 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph (Post 5296027)
This is the hill he's going to die on? That shirt? I'd immediately be firing him if I was Vince/HHH. Everything isn't about fucking race. It's a shit shirt.

Thank You!

I'd more pissed about the GARBAGE New Day representing my race if I was black.

Damian Rey 2.0 10-27-2019 04:06 PM

Lol that shirt is something else

Seanny One Ball 10-27-2019 04:33 PM

I don't see it myself. It doesn't look like lips or teeth at all.
I honestly spent a minute wondering if it was because it's a black shirt.

Seanny One Ball 10-27-2019 04:34 PM

Also Myles Jordan is a way better name than Jordan Myles.
It just sounds better.

Seanny One Ball 10-27-2019 04:36 PM

Myles Jordan is apparently a white cellist.



Now that's a gimmick.

Verbose Minch 10-27-2019 05:43 PM

I think the guy is reaching here

xrodmuc316 10-27-2019 06:45 PM

Seriously, if those are his teeth smiling, how could the red be his lips? Teeth don't grow in the outside :lol:

Sounds more like someone from AEW told him to get fired

Evil Vito 10-27-2019 06:48 PM

Multiple black members of the roster have shared the tweet and expressed disgust over the shirt.

Seanny One Ball 10-27-2019 07:14 PM


EzekielKane 10-27-2019 07:31 PM

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This kind of drama is exactly why I am watching DBW, no drama just action!

RP 10-27-2019 07:55 PM

I'm not seeing how people cant see the blatant racism here.

Here's a key question. Are they selling the shirt in white?

Damian Rey 2.0 10-27-2019 07:57 PM

I don't think we should be telling a person of color how to feel about a shirt he clearly sees as offensive.

Lock Jaw 10-27-2019 08:04 PM

I would have never guessed/noticed/assumed the "racist" part of the shirt.... at first thought he was upset just because his shirt was so plain and bland.

Emperor Smeat 10-27-2019 08:17 PM

On its own, the shirt looks bad and par for the course for most of WWE's shirt designs.

Between going with that color combo and design and giving Myles the stereotypical happy black guy wrestler gimmick, WWE left themselves wide open for the black face criticisms to happen.

GD 10-27-2019 09:01 PM

That's incredibly insensitive.

Mr. Nerfect 10-27-2019 09:04 PM

Lol, it’s pretty bad no one caught that. WWE will and should apologize to Jordan and change the shirt. I expect to see him on TV very soon too.

And yeah, Myles Jordan is a much better name than Jordan Myles.

Mr. Nerfect 10-27-2019 09:05 PM

This got me thinking: when was the last time two black wrestlers feuded with each other? Was it Shad and JTG? Maybe The New Day and D-Von or The Prime Time Players? There were feuds there, right?

Seanny One Ball 10-27-2019 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 5296123)
I don't think we should be telling a person of color how to feel about a shirt he clearly sees as offensive.

I don't think anybody has.

I still don't see it though.

Seanny One Ball 10-27-2019 09:17 PM

I would say that having a problem with that shirt in a company as racially offensive as WWE is kind of like getting offended at the decor in a porn film.

Triple A 10-27-2019 09:18 PM

I doubt that the graphic designer or whoever did that on purpose, but I immediately thought "oh no..." upon seeing the pic before reading his tweet

Seanny One Ball 10-27-2019 09:27 PM

I'm guessing it's harder for non Americans to see it because racism towards black people isn't nearly as engrained in our culture and history.

I just don't see it.

Emperor Smeat 10-27-2019 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball (Post 5296144)
I'm guessing it's harder for non Americans to see it because racism towards black people isn't nearly as engrained in our culture and history.

I just don't see it.

That would make sense as a reason and why you get instances like in the Netherlands and Spain where they hold certain annual festivals that always draws criticisms in the US of being black face and/or racist in tone.

Those festivals don't generate the same tone there because of cultural and origin differences although more people there have become aware in recent years of how those festivals can be seen as being racist.

xrodmuc316 10-27-2019 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball (Post 5296137)
I would say that having a problem with that shirt in a company as racially offensive as WWE is kind of like getting offended at the decor in a porn film.

Once again, you are spot on.

I still don't see how the smiling teeth means the red background is the stereotypical racist lips, it's clearly the inside of the mouth if the letters are meant to be teeth.

If people are offended, then it is offensive. What I don't think is it being blatantly offensive, as in by design, but just a case of something not being thought out very well.

Emperor Smeat 10-27-2019 10:32 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not at all. I was told it was suppose to be “Rolling Stones” GTFOH..</p>&mdash; Jordan Myles (@GoGoMyles) <a href="https://twitter.com/GoGoMyles/status/1188392537461010432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

For some reference this is what the Rolling Stones shirt looks like as a plain design. They also sell it in a variety of designs and colors.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....cL._UX679_.jpg

https://therollingstonesshop.com/col...-black-t-shirt

xrodmuc316 10-27-2019 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5296149)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not at all. I was told it was suppose to be “Rolling Stones” GTFOH..</p>&mdash; Jordan Myles (@GoGoMyles) <a href="https://twitter.com/GoGoMyles/status/1188392537461010432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

For some reference this is what the Rolling Stones shirt looks like as a plain design. They also sell it in a variety of designs and colors.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....cL._UX679_.jpg

https://therollingstonesshop.com/col...-black-t-shirt

They have had that logo for like 40 years, and it is a fair comparison.

Evil Vito 10-27-2019 11:34 PM

WWE released a statement basically blaming Myles and saying that talent have input and significant creative say in their shirt designs.

Myles has already called bullshit on that.

Lol this company is a mess.

Evil Vito 10-27-2019 11:41 PM

Even if you want to just take WWE’s side “it’s just a smile for a dude that smiles a lot, what’s the big deal?”

They’ve had an alarming number of black wrestlers whose sole gimmick is just “smiley black guy” with little to no character development beyond that. Shit that’s been the entirety of Apollo Crews’ three and a half year main roster run.

Tom Guycott 10-28-2019 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RP (Post 5296121)
I'm not seeing how people cant see the blatant racism here.

Here's a key question. Are they selling the shirt in white?

Prob'ly not. And that's what makes this worse.

To counterbalance all the "I don't see it" folks, the Al Jolson-looking derogatory imagery is the first thing I noticed. This is one of those things that could have been completely avoided if they just ran it by him or somebody with some sense first instead of "here's your merch". This looks like something out of Bamboozled, and that was a satirical movie.

If I had any faith that WWE had any sort of self-awareness or quality writing, I would figure this was the beginning of a gimmick, angle, and push for the guy trying to buck the "this is all you are" trend. But, of course this is legit. Of course they're that tone deaf. Just of fucking course.

slik 10-28-2019 02:11 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“Excellent question, Shelton!&quot; <a href="https://t.co/SUKNPyheYQ">pic.twitter.com/SUKNPyheYQ</a></p>&mdash; David BixenSP����KY (@davidbix) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1188698379330691072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Verbose Minch 10-28-2019 02:14 AM

Hahahahah wwe's statement said he approved it. What a goof


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