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So...doesn't look like it impressed. 76% on Rotten Tomatoes right now with critics only. When I went to school that was a D+
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There was never a chance that this one would be funnier than the original. Women aren't as funny as men as a rule and when a bunch of women try to be wacky it always comes off as forced. Oh well. |
Been hearing/seeing a lot of good reviews actually....
A bunch of bad ones too, though.... |
Seen a lot of, "It's not bad" reviews.
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Cooler Tom Schuler really wants this movie to be good. I hope he enjoys it.
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76 is a C
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That explains a lot about you. My school had that as a D.
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77-84 C, 84-93 B
And D was 76 to like 68 or something. |
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Mine too |
I'll let you all know my thoughts when I see it with my nephew next weekend. Not going in expecting it to be good
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I've proudly been against this reboot since it was announced two years ago. I am so happy the majority and I actually agree on something for once and that the movie is becoming the epic fail I hoped it would be.
What makes any motion picture work is if it's realistic. Even the ones that have a supernatural story. If something out of this world happens in a flick, I desire to see a story that presents an honest portrayal of how people would really react to it. For example, if ghosts were real and they became menace in society, a bunch of skirts would not be the ones dealing with the problem. That would be men. You may have one or two butch lesbians assisting for quota purposes and to make CNN smile, and there might even be a few heterosexual babes doing research safely in an office, but as far as going into the mouth of hades and battling the spirits, it's going to be a lot of guys doing it. Even broad's know this. They just like to pretend everything is equal and we booty-whipped males let them. Chicks are only tough in films and in BDSM sessions. |
76% is not a grade. Rotten tomatoes uses a binary system for that percentage. It means that 3 of every 4 critics would recommend seeing the movie.
The critical consensus is also favourable towards the film as well. It was never going to be the original. There are more positive or favourable reviews then bad ones. Lots of 3, 3.5 and 4 out of 5 ratings. Seems it's likely a solidly above average movie that'll be fun to watch, if nothing else. Not sure anyone could've expected better. It's certainly receiving a better response than what I had anticipated. |
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Every positive review I've read defends the movie rather than actually reviews it.
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Did you not see that article a few months ago how the trailer for the film became the most thumbs downed video ever on YouTube?
I have no doubt a few butch lesbians and girly men will defend the movie, but overall, it is crashing and burning for a lot of folks and I highly doubt it will stand the test of time. What's also sad is this flick could have worked if Hollywood didn't turn it into a political project to get people to vote for Clinton. (FYI: I am an undecided voter, but Clinton and her police-hating is not impressing me, so my current support is for Trump. Furthermore, I fear if Clinton wins, there's gonna be more PMS motion pictures cause the suits are gonna think Americans desire seeing females out of the kitchen. The powers that be need to realize at the end of the day, men are still the superior gender and we need that fact to be a reflection in our entertainment.) Take "Terminator 3", the "Ghostbusters" reboot and the "Hunger Games" series and stick it in the oven! (Cause we all know if the world gets FUBAR'd, a freaking white girl is gonna be the lone survivor. GIVE ME A F'N BREAK! "The Book of Eli" - Now that's realistic! A blind man has a better chance at holding his own in the valley of darkness! No pun intended.) #BrosBeforeHoes |
It's crashing and burning how?
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this is getting good reviews because a sinister cabal of SJW are bribing and outright threatening movie critics (who are useless anyway, because they didn't like Batman v Superman, X-Men Apocalypse and Warcraft)
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Do respected reviewers count more in Rotten Tomatoes? Richard Roeper panned it.
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So, what's your story dude? Do you think by kissing up to women you're going to get to lick more pussy in the future? |
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I could care less if it's good or not. I have zero investment in the movie. I'm just speaking the facts. |
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And again. Critics are from useless. Rotten tomatoes exists and is used as a marketing ploy because like it or not, critics matter and their voice is influential. If they weren't, movie studious wouldn't be slapping fresh stickers on their DVD/blu ray sleeves nor would they re edit trailers after a film release packed with critics reviews praising a film to generate box office returns. They clearly matter.
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Just shy of 4,000 ratings on IMDB has it at 3.6 at the moment. I want this film to flop. I defended it all the way until the trailer was released and I didn't laugh/smile/show interest once. It looked awful and it deserves to fail miserably.
Sadly, it will still be a financial success coz all the people who thumbs down'd it on YouTube are probably still gonna go and see it, resulting in it making a profit and therefore validating the release of sequels etc. |
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IGN gave it a 69 which by their shit standards is "Okay." I think I'd have gotten in trouble in school if I ever got that grade.
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This flopping will just fuel the war on women storyline and they will double down with more remakes like White Girl Can't Jump..Gurlz in the Hood..Women in Black..A Few Good Women
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Going to agree with Droford to a degree actually. While I'm sure there are some out there deliberately hating the film because its 4 women, I doubt the vitrol that has been spewed is predominantly because of that. The previews really made it obvious that they didn't try to do anything original with this, they just swapped SNL generations and added 21st century CGI and hoped for the best. They'l go through similar troupes (meeting a calm looking ghost in a library that turns out to be a mean one) and thats not going to do it.
I think the public has reached burnout on nostalgia profiteering to some extent and this movie is just bearing that cross. The first film captured lightning in a bottle for too many reasons to list, and was never going to be duplicated. If Ghostbusters 2 couldn't hold onto enough elements that made 1 great, how could one thats been run through the process of studio bleaching 30 years later? I'm sure the movie is ok. Nothing special. Just ok. A good way to kill a couple of hours. |
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It's not getting neat perfect marks. It's getting passable "hey, it's not the original but it doesn't try to be and it's actually pretty entertaining if nothing spectacular" marks.
There are critics who didn't like it at all and others who didn't care much for it and didn't recommend it, as well as those who didn't care for it but would recommend it. I still don't get why critics have to paid off to like something. They pan shit all the time. Melissa McCarthy has had several duds including her most recent film. |
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I'm so sneaking in a can of ecto cooler when I go
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Still won't make it go any smoother but I will do the same.
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So...you have no proof then? Just claims you're making because you don't buy that someone might just really like a movie you haven't seen but are deeming it as a paint by numbers result?
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Not sure if trolling or contrarian either way have fun defending a summer comedy as a near masterpiece.
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I'm not defending anything. Nor am I trolling. You're making claims critics are paid off and I'm asking if you actually any tangible evidence that anyone's been paid off to like this movie. You're also claiming its pain by the numbers without even bothering to watch it. And that's it's seemingly unfathomable somebody could go see it and thoroughly enjoy it and give it an arbitrary score you don't agree with.
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Given the talent involved, there is no reason this couldn't have been a really good comedy, worthy of the franchise.
Feel like the people in charge wanted to "play it safe", make a by the numbers comedy without taking any risks, and just make money off the name. Too bad. |
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Yes. A 3.7. From fans. Critic reviews there, shockingly, are saying the same thing on Rotten Tomatoes. But alas, it's not what you want to hear so I guess it need not count.
YouTube? Really? How many trailers on there get countless likes only to be absolutely shitty movies? The real barometer is going to be box office. Money talks. The positive reviews the film is getting will likely help but moviegoer word of mouth will also play a big role in whether it's going to crash and burn or be a hit. |
Trainwreck was the best Summer Comedy I can remember. Still was kinda derivative of love story motifs.
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I hated the trailer. And moreover, I hated my then-roommate trying to convince me that it was still worth looking forward to, and trying to make it a gender issue. It's not. Women have been headlining films since fuck knows when, at least the 30s, this is not a breakthrough of any kind. It's a shit film issue. They took a franchise people have fond memories of and they painted it with the same unfunny Hollywood trying-to-amuse brush that films like Bridesmaids strive for. But if everybody pays to see it, regardless of whether the people that leave think it's good or bad, it's accomplished it's goal as a spectacle that people wanted to see for themselves. And that would be the biggest crime of all - that Hollywood figured out a way to rape and cheapen people's memories with a blatant cash-grab remake, throw lazy comedy in there, and still came out better off for it. It deserves to bomb. I don't hate the idea of an all-women cast in an action film. I hate the idea of anybody, male or female, filling shoes that are impossible to fill. It's not as if the perfect cast and concept came along, and it was like "you know what these guys would make great? The Ghostbusters franchise!" They were looking at old franchises they could exploit for a quick buck, and they figured the only way to avoid a direct comparison was to use women. Fine on paper, Bill Murray himself years ago said that would be the only way it would have a chance to fly - female cast, different style of film, but some core principles intact to appease the people that want it to be true to the original. But just watching that trailer, there's no heart in it whatsoever. I want it to fail to stop this lazy element of cinema that has found itself relying on superheroes and remakes. If it does record business, we all lose. |
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I personally don't value the opinions of critics. I never have. (That's because I'm not a sheep.) The so-called "experts" are merely human beings (who put their pants on one leg at a time like me) screening a flick. Besides, the photoplays they approve of, I typically find to be garbage. Reviewers are more then likely compensated by producers (and/or other influential figures) to praise their reels, and if they don't get enough cash from a certain company, they proceed to trash it. The reason why I feel that way is because motion pictures have much more power over all citizens then some people realize. Films influence the world. Thus, they are essentially propaganda tools and they are all advertising something, so they require critical assessment and careful interrogation if we are to understand what they say about the concerns and values of those who favor them. Some may argue that cinema should not be intensely viewed on a personal level and that they are just stories with little or no public bearing. Without any elaboration, popular opinion overall is that movie-viewing is a leisure activity that should be completed and forgotten until the next showing. This perspective is too casual and cavalier. Since studio executives and their clients do not exist in cultural vacuums, any motion picture should be seen as a commentary that is expressive of the society it's born in and as a form of expression for the audience who enjoys them. In the case of "Ghostbusters" - More then likely this was created because the Clinton campaign is attempting to promote the notion that women in charge would be better for society and "the professional commentators" are naturally praising this long Democrat commercial. Well, you know what the majority of the public is saying? We don't desire for females to be anything other then helpers like The Good Lord intended. Why do we feel that way? Besides for biblical reasons, women haven't prove themselves in society. If a chick's honor is insulted, instead of running to a man for protection, more broad's need to start handling things themselves. They also need to kill more insects and not shriek and ask their boyfriend or husband to handle it. Madams should also check out that strange noise they hear in their living room and not look for a knight in shining armor to do it, and girls should offer to not only buy their own drinks, but insist (angrily if they have to) that they buy the guy's beverage too, and if another 9/11 happens and the ones with penises aren't there quick enough, skirts need to step up and help out, and do other things men have been doing for thousands of years, and they need to do a better job then us. Then more folks might accept a picture about a team of nothing but dames fighting ghosts or other forms of evil. |
The public isn't saying any of that. The movie hasn't come out for public viewing yet. The only people shitting on are those who voluntarily signed up for a movie site and decided to shit on it.
Money talks. We'll see what the public actually thinks when it's released this weekend. |
I'm sure the reviews will be mostly the equivalent of 2.5 stars out of 4. Not good, not bad. I'm with DR2 in that I'm more interested in the box office totals. Word of mouth is a powerful thing even in these times.
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If it was going to so huge business they wouldn't need to tie it in commercially from pizza to car insurance and overload on the commercials.
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Every movie does that. It's not a reflection of how much business it's going to do. It's done to get the product out there to the masses in a variety of ways. Tie ins have been apart of the movie business for decades.
The Dark Knight had a Dominos pizza tie in andv that movie needed no help in the hype department. It's standard procedure. |
Do you have stock in this film?
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I'm wondering if you can find any point of conversation I've shown any semblance of bias that would generate such a dumb question.
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Movies use tie ins nooooo. I never seen it happen ever! Say any chance Frozen cereal is still om the market? |
I dunno but I saw Batman v Superman cereal boxes in the breakfast aisle today.
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I Know my case of ecto cooler came today, and I got to say it's over rated |
That's a bit of a bummer.
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I'm your counterpart because frankly I'm sick of Caucasian men being verbally assaulted by the mainstream media. I'm not going to hate myself and garbage like this film is why I currently plan to vote for Mr. Trump, who months ago I couldn't even see myself dreaming of endorsing. I don't desire to live on any planet where a group gets insulted repeatedly, and that includes Anglo-Saxon males who apparently everyone else thinks deserves to be put down. Are you aware that a motion picture honoring a baby-killer is coming out in October? This is the country we live in. For Pete's sake, police officers cannot even do their occupation anymore without being met with protests and gun fire. I know some will think I am looking too deeply into the subject, but as I typed before - Movies are a reflection of the society we live in and are propaganda devices that millions of malleable citizens view. If we look to women to be our heroes, we're all going to be let down because most ladies in real life are cowards. They probably all love being a member of the weaker sex too, and that being scared and female is socially acceptable in the universe. If we attempt to change their rank, they will more likely resent it more then anyone because I doubt they desire to handle the adventures into hades that men have to go through during their lives. |
So you can't specifically point out where I've defended the film then? Because I haven't. I don't know if it's good or not. The only thing I've been saying is it's been critically well received, and that it's not unfathomable that people actually liked the movie for what it is.
If that's your definition of defending then well, I guess that your take. |
Just got back from this. It wasn't bad. If it was a sequel series not bad would pass. Reboot to me means you have to be better to justify it. They should just change their minds and say it wasn't a reboot and all of the guest characters were using aliases to hide from the truth.
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If you want to go by the average rating, that's low too. |
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"The Tomatometer is simply the percentage of professional critic reviews that award the movie a fresh score (greater than 6 out of 10) against the total number of reviews for the movie. A movie is rated fresh if it has a percentage above 60 and rotten otherwise." I.e, binary system. How high a critic scores the movie is irrelevant per the the tomato meter. It's either or. But nice try. |
45% of viewers like it. That is usually way higher than the critics because of summer movie fun.
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So, you can't quote it then?
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RT AUDIENCE SCORE 46% liked it Average Rating: 2.7/5 User Ratings: 76,873 Metacritic seems down on it too. |
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Womp womp. |
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Uh huh.
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Amusingly they tried to get it in China under the title "Super Power Dare to Die Team" which sounds like a better movie
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Update: For the most part it is that China doesn't think the people will like it having not seen 1 or 2. Doesn't make much sense though. Watching those two movies only makes this one look like shit.
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Meta critic is sitting at a very logical 60 right now. Which is exactly where a popcorn film should be. I.E. if this intrests you go see it other wise pass. Not like the 9/10 which would be to say "must see entertainment."
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This movie looks and sounds dumb though. It's too bad though. |
It was shit
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I'll probably be seeing it sometime tonight. Or the Infiltrator. Trying to decide.
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The guy outside the theater dressed as Stay Puft was more entertaining.
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Just got back from it.... thought it was an enjoyable movie.... I'd call it "good"..... not gonna be a cult hit or anything, but not bad....
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I sort of thought I enjoyed the first hour until I realised I wasn't laughing very much and then it was just a load of CGI and nothing very interesting.
Also they got Ozzy Osbourne in to do a SHARON joke |
^Agree.
https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...98&oe=58342F19 Like i said this guy was more entertaining. |
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Nothing will get in the way of an old tired joke.
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Fuck the haters, I thought it was a fun time.
Then again, I don't worship at the altar of the first one. It didn't try to be the first movie, but it was clearly inspired by it. That said, minus five points for no ghost fighting ape. |
Were you on a date?
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"When factoring in marketing costs — the price tag for promoting a summer tentpole globally can be upward of $150 million — Ghostbusters may have to earn $375 million to $400 million worldwide to break even for Sony and partner Village Roadshow Pictures. That means it needs to do sizable business overseas, since it could top out in the $130 million range domestically. (Sony insiders counter that the break-even number is $300 million.)" Pamela McClintock Hollywooder Reporter
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Current gross is 42mil
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Wow, I didn't expect THAT.
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Failure?
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Actually, yes. A lot of movies I don't think look good make a ton of cash. I disliked Bridesmaids for instance, I hated Avatar.
My tastes are not main-stream, so I kind of expected this to be AT LEAST a moderate success. |
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