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slik 03-07-2018 03:00 PM

If Asuka does challenge Charlotte at WrestleMania...
 
and beats her (which seems like a very likely thing whoever Asuka wrestles) and she gets stuck on SD for a year....what 'hot feuds' should Asuka have on SD?


Lana
Tamina
Sarah Logan
Liv Morgan
Ruby Riott


Who would u book Asuka in feuds with (based on current roster of SD)

Black Widow 03-07-2018 03:31 PM

I wouldnt put her in any feuds cause it would be slant eyes winning all the time.

The same thing people put Kleenex out of business over Roman with.

Simple Fan 03-07-2018 05:39 PM

Rather see Asuka vs Alexa with Alexa ending her streak.

Fignuts 03-07-2018 06:54 PM

Alexa vs Nia and Asuka vs Charlotte is definitely the way to go. The stories there practically write themselves.

As for what Asuka would do afterwards, well I've said for a while that Becky's main roster work doesnt even remotely compare to her stuff in NXT. Maybe a fued with Asuka would bring some of the old Becky.

Fignuts 03-07-2018 06:57 PM

Actually wouldn't mind charlotte being the one to end the streak, especially at wrestlemania, but I have a feeling they're saving that accolade for Rhonda.

KIRA 03-07-2018 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Widow (Post 5092315)
I wouldnt put her in any feuds cause it would be slant eyes winning all the time.

The same thing people put Kleenex out of business over Roman with.

And here I thought you had a thing for her.

Black Widow 03-07-2018 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 5092359)
And here I thought you had a thing for her.

Nope.

Only the blondes Alexa,Mandy,Liv and Lana.

My Final Heaven 03-07-2018 08:16 PM

Lol, they've spent the last 2 years putting Charlotte & Alexa over the rest of the women's roster ad nauseum. It's been drilled into us that nobody else on either show can touch them, either taking the streak would just be kicking a dead horse now. I say give it to Ronda.

Damian Rey 2.0 03-07-2018 08:56 PM

The better story would be Rousey beating the streak and dominate while Asuka gets built back up to triumph over her.

Droford 03-07-2018 09:25 PM

I'm calling Carmella cashing in and pinning Charlotte to win the belt while not ending the streak

Nicky Fives 03-08-2018 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Droford (Post 5092412)
I'm calling Carmella cashing in and pinning Charlotte to win the belt while not ending the streak

Yeah, Asuka can't get a belt this early.... Always better to have her "lurking" in the background of the title picture.... Throw her into a few #1 contender multi-woman matches, but always have her lose without being involved in the decision....

Destor 03-08-2018 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5092357)
Actually wouldn't mind charlotte being the one to end the streak, especially at wrestlemania, but I have a feeling they're saving that accolade for Rhonda.

Rousey v Asuka next years mania is def they way theyre going

Ol Dirty Dastard 03-08-2018 10:39 AM

That could work. If they don't kill off both characters beforehand.

#1-norm-fan 03-08-2018 10:40 AM

They'll probably blow Rousey vs Asuka at a B PPV.

Emperor Smeat 03-08-2018 01:01 PM

Natty, Charlotte, and Becky are probably the best options considering WWE likes to use Natty to help out newer stars and Charlotte & Becky are the most popular stars on Smackdown.

Rest of the division doesn't have the star power to make a feud believable or interesting.

Damian Rey 2.0 03-08-2018 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5092518)
They'll probably blow Rousey vs Asuka at a B PPV.

They'll blow it at Fsstlane, after having each of them eat losses on free tv, and whoever is going for Charlotte at mania will go over at Fastlane to "look strong".

Mr. JL 03-09-2018 01:37 AM

I think Ronda Rousey puts an unfortunate twist into any long term plans. Lets face it, Ronda Rousey is going to suck in the ring; she is a name and a UFC/Hollywood star but there is no way she can wrestle to the level of women's wrestler that we are used to now. However, they are going to want to make her the face of the division because of her star stature.

Ideally, I would like Asuka versus Alexa Bliss with Asuka winning; then retaining her belt all year undefeated. On the other side, Charlotte beats any and every challenger all year too.

Then these two meet up NEXT YEAR at WrestleMania.

Damian Rey 2.0 03-09-2018 01:47 AM

Why don't you think Rousey will be good in the ring?

Frank Drebin 03-09-2018 03:58 AM

I'm pretty worried she's still at Lawrence Taylor level too. I wouldn't be if this was just a one off, but after seeing that.....was it a Samoan drop? Yeah...

Luigi 03-10-2018 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5092357)
Actually wouldn't mind charlotte being the one to end the streak, especially at wrestlemania, but I have a feeling they're saving that accolade for Rhonda.

I hope that this isn’t the case. I don’t think Ronda (no ‘h’ by the way) going over Asuka would be very well received by the fans. In fact, I will go on record as saying that Ronda will not do very well as a face....at least initially. I think it would be far better if she was pushed as a heel. I think a female face eventually going over a heel Ronda would do far more for said face’s career. Ronda should basically be the Brock Lesnar of the women’s division in my opinion....once she learns the WWE style of wrestling. While she is learning to wrestle however, I wouldn’t mind seeing Ronda being a heel bodyguard for either The Authority or a top heel male wrestler. As far as a heel turn goes, I’d actually start this as early as WrestleMania. Have Ronda screw Angle and join up with Triple H and Stephanie.

Luigi 03-10-2018 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. JL (Post 5092807)
I think Ronda Rousey puts an unfortunate twist into any long term plans. Lets face it, Ronda Rousey is going to suck in the ring; she is a name and a UFC/Hollywood star but there is no way she can wrestle to the level of women's wrestler that we are used to now. However, they are going to want to make her the face of the division because of her star stature.

Well said, and this is exactly why I believe the fans will resent Ronda. Even the women in the lockerroom may start to resent Ronda if they feel that she’s receiving preferential treatment....esepcially in light of the fact that it was the other female wrestlers that kick started the women’s revolution. Ronda needs to pay her dues and earn the respect of that lockerroom and I hope the WWE realises this. That’s why I’m a huge fan of the idea of turning Ronda heel. Have Ronda be a bodyguard for someone important. In the meantime, have her learn the ins and outs of wrestling behind the scenes. Once she is a solid enough wrestler, you can eventually push her as a heel a la Brock Lesnar style. Eventually, she does the job to whoever is the top face of the women’s division.

Mr. Nerfect 03-13-2018 08:19 PM

This is the problem with the women's divisions. The divisions aren't deep enough, nor do they have the heavyweight players to mix it up with other heavyweight players. Asuka will have to be selling for Carmella. It's not the biggest problem they have -- Asuka vs. Ronda is still going to get them relative attention and feel like a big women's match -- but it's a problem when it comes to maintaining interest in those acts throughout the year.

Damian Rey 2.0 03-13-2018 11:06 PM

I'll continue to believe that combining the women's division and making it a brand exclusive division would only be a benefit. You get a much deeper roster to work with and can keep matches a feuds fresh. I also believe the same would benefit the tag division.

Mr. Nerfect 03-13-2018 11:39 PM

The problem is that they want this gentrified approach to their shows. Can you imagine a SmackDown without tag team matches or women's matches? They want that "style" represented on every show. A similar solution, but more in line with their philosophy, would be to have one floating champion between both shows.

Fignuts 03-13-2018 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5094745)
This is the problem with the women's divisions. The divisions aren't deep enough, nor do they have the heavyweight players to mix it up with other heavyweight players. Asuka will have to be selling for Carmella. It's not the biggest problem they have -- Asuka vs. Ronda is still going to get them relative attention and feel like a big women's match -- but it's a problem when it comes to maintaining interest in those acts throughout the year.

Yeah, each brand has a number of women that are good, but nowhere near the level they need to be for the division to consistently put on great matches like the men.

Asuka
Charlotte
Sasha

Those are the only women on the main roster that can put out great work on a consistent basis. You can throw in Ember Moon and Kairi Sane if you want to include NXT, but that's still only 5.

That said, I'm not too worried about it. It may not be ideal at the moment, but like I said, the rest of the women are at least okay to very good. Alliyah on NXT is the only one that comes to mind, that is just flat out the drizzling shits. Not only that, but unlike the diva search era, it seems like most of the women here are passionate about wrestling, and truly want to be the best. So it's not hard to imagine that many of these women still working to improve right now will be standing on the same level as your charlottes and asukas in a couple years.

I mean charlotte herself was fucking terrible only a few years ago. I think she was actually worse than Alliyah is now.

Even though Alexa and Nia aren't on their smackdown counterparts' level, I'm still looking forward to their match. They've improved to the point where I enjoy their matches and they'll definitely be trying to put on a better match than they ever have before.

Damian Rey 2.0 03-14-2018 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5094854)
The problem is that they want this gentrified approach to their shows. Can you imagine a SmackDown without tag team matches or women's matches? They want that "style" represented on every show. A similar solution, but more in line with their philosophy, would be to have one floating champion between both shows.

Tag titles are not necessarily needed for tag team matches. I don't like the floating champ idea. If the goal to make brands exclusive and give them identity then giving them something you can only see on that brand would solve the problem. But I don't think they ever really thought the brand split idea through anyways.

My Final Heaven 03-16-2018 02:33 PM

I think Ronda has a better foundation to be "good" than anybody else they have training ATM - barring somebody like Asuka, who was a pro for 10+years before she made it to NXT. Brock and Kurt Angle came from comperable backgrounds, training in a combat sport from when they were kids, and both were on their way to being great within 6 months of pro wrestling training. I'm not saying "Ronda right now = Brock + Kurt" by any stretch at all - just that the building blocks are there.

My Final Heaven 03-16-2018 02:38 PM

If anybody wants to hear it, I can Noid Post the fuck out of this how I would book Ronda into the next decade.

Mr. Nerfect 03-16-2018 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by My Final Heaven (Post 5095850)
I think Ronda has a better foundation to be "good" than anybody else they have training ATM - barring somebody like Asuka, who was a pro for 10+years before she made it to NXT. Brock and Kurt Angle came from comperable backgrounds, training in a combat sport from when they were kids, and both were on their way to being great within 6 months of pro wrestling training. I'm not saying "Ronda right now = Brock + Kurt" by any stretch at all - just that the building blocks are there.

I'd agree with you in any other era, but she doesn't really have the dance partners. I was all pumped for her to come in and be this star, but she came out and pointed at a sign. It's all very "bleh." I'm trying to think of a good analogy. It's a lot of telling and not showing, I guess. WWE is bad television. Objectively.

Mr. Nerfect 03-16-2018 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 5094883)
Tag titles are not necessarily needed for tag team matches. I don't like the floating champ idea. If the goal to make brands exclusive and give them identity then giving them something you can only see on that brand would solve the problem. But I don't think they ever really thought the brand split idea through anyways.

Brand split is a bad idea in the first place. Having floating champs is basically the same idea as the champs on one show thing if you are going to still have matches anyway. It does make the brand split useless -- which it is anyway.


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