UFC 229: McGregor vs Khabib
 

Gonna watch tonight, anyone else?

All stoppages on the prelims from what I saw so far

I enjoyed the FS1 show, anyone got that s t r e a m?

Trying to convince myself this is worth $65

Leaning toward no.

Just tuned in

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"Why did you take your pants off"

"My balls was hot"

LMAO

This 2nd from last fight is crazy

^^^

Ferguson vs Pettis, this is probably the most exciting UFC fight I have ever seen

Fight had to stop at end of round 2 due to one guy breaking his hand from hitting the other guy so hard

So fast-paced and so much blood in this fight, it was nuts

Main-event up next, Conor vs Khabib

Did the main event start yet?

Only interested in watching the Connor fight because of the spectacle surrounding him recently.

Nope, about to start r/n

video package playing before each guy enters the octagon

Managed to tune in near the end of the hype videos.

Conor doesn't look as confident as he usually does while entering

Connor's "Vince McMahon" walk is great.

That Vince walk really is hysterical

Pretty boring 1st Round so far

Fight's pretty much over now for Connor unless he pulls out a surprise KO or submission soon.

Holy shit at Khabib jumping the fence.

Khabib wins in round 4 and then picks a fight with a guy in the crowd,
I thought a riot was about to start

Damn, Joe Rogan is pissed

SMH at Khabib's teammate jumping Conor from behind post-fight

Just as bad was one of his ring crew guys nailing Connor with a cheap shot.

Yeup White is pissed as hell at Khabib. Really smart to not let him continue to antagonize the crowd.

My stream died as Khabib was talking to Dana, did he get his belt?

No contest? DQ?

This was basically the Austin/Hart double-turn

Nope, Dana said he won't put the belt on him and had him escorted from the Octagon

Damn, woulda been awesome if Khabib snapped and put Dana in the ankle lock as the PPV went off the air.

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Dana should have called out the locker room to separate those 2.

Jesus Christ, that looked scary.

Why'd they let Bus destroyer McGreggor back in the UFC? This is the end of the UFC.

Stream?

So WWE and UFC have officially merged. Next fight will be a ladder match.

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Fucking dummies probably forgot mcgregor has enough money to make them vanish.

The fight before the main-event was crazy too

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Fight of the night.

Dana just needs to find his Rocky or Hulk Hogan to defeat the evil foreign heel brotherjackdude

Wonder if Khabib will be on this post show.

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Drake has CENA NUFF of Khabib lololol


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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Khabib Nurmagomedov addressed the media and apologized to the Nevada State Athletic Commission for the altercation after he defeated Conor McGregor. <a href="https://t.co/VyRtCt8YmQ">pic.twitter.com/VyRtCt8YmQ</a></p>&mdash; SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1048840616510144512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 7, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Honestly, Dana has himself to blame. He let Conor run wild, throwing dollies through busses, injuring fighters and now acts "disgusted" at Khabib. The precedent was already set.

Shit was a crazy. Wonder what the punishment will be. Should there be a rematch? I mean Khabib dominated except I'd say he lost round 3.

I can see Khabib being stripped of the title

Jack Tunney will make an official announcement this week.

Better to "suspend" him for whatever the duration was to be between fights. Build Diaz up in the meantime. Conner i dunno. Prob needs to go up in weight. I dont think he's ever going to want a rematch.

Accurate. If they punish Khabib with anything other than a slap on the wrist then you might as well throw in the towel because of the special treatment Conor gets. Conor should have never gotten this fight after the bus incident. UFC should have just ate the financial loss and cut ties right then and there. But you know Dana would never do that because he still has everyone convinced that UFC isn't just a giant set up.

Now if he punishes Khabib you are going to get the stereotypical "Look they let the white guy do whatever he wants and punish other people!" response. It'll turn into nonsensical race baiting and arguing when it was really just about money. The only way you can punish him at this point is if they legit just cut ties with Khabib and Conor both and say they are sick of all these childish antics and won't put up with it any more.

Also that video of Drake lmao.....Drake is the biggest pos poser ever I swear. Wish he woulda found Khabib and then got skullfucked by him.

What does this mean for Raw on Monday??

Drebin gets it

Pretty much this.

UFC has been trying to regain mainstream interest with their recent focus towards more escentric and wild fighters but forgot to reign them in once in a while so things don't get out of hand. Instead UFC is now seen like WWE with how carny things have become and just keeps taking hits to their image.


Dana is pretty much taking the easy way out and letting the Nevada Commission handle this mess. If they slap him with a heavy punishment, it gives Dana the excuse to strip Khabib of the title and suspend or kick him out since he can say it was the Commission who forced his hand.

Dana White is a joke of a GM or Speaking Piece for the UFC. He talks big, but has zero nuts to do what needs to be done as far a disciplinary reasons. The guy is way to close to the fighters. That or the UFC is in bad shape and he cant sit these fighters down due to financial loss.

I had a feeling that when the Firtittas sold, the company would take a huge down turn.

They kept Dana in line, they didnt let the fighters run wild, and they were experts at a live production. Even in the days where this was a crazier sport, there was never a brawl like this.

UFC still might be the pinnacle, but it might have to deal with a much stronger bellator or other shows.

There is a problem. The moment they didnt come down on Connor for his actions in that garage, gave it away.

Now Khabib does his thing and nothing is going to happen. It cant. Dana is an idiot.

I wonder if they will do a 3 way dance with Tony Ferg vs Connor vs Khabib FOR THE TITLE.

Im actually not too sure nothing will happen but as I think about it, I go back and forth.

This does make Khabib a huge draw now, and UFC wants to stay in russia, but Khabib also had a plan of beating mcgregor and walking away as well. He is also critical of Dana white and the UFC as a whole.

Wondering if Khabib will be stripped and just get an immediate rematch.

Khabib v Connor and DA UNDERTAKER in an handicap match

Someone argued with me that because "this was so personal" it couldn't be like pro wrestling, and Brock Lesnar's "Bud Light" promo was more pro wrestling.

I said the fact that it came off as so personal makes it BETTER pro wrestling. I don't think he got it. Not everyone is aware that pro wrestling events used to regularly end in riots, and because UFC has the benefit of being "real", it's much easier to run fucking awesome angles like this one.

Even if Khabib was genuine, the stage was set for him to run wild by McGregor in the case of a Khabib win, making interest for a rematch imminent even if Conor got his salad tossed.

Since the buy out they've been doing bigger and bigger angles. I think at some point you'll shit the bed but its no coincidence that the drama centers around the top draw. That's not an accident.

Boxing, Wrestling, MMA hell even Sumo. Its all a work on one level or another. UFC will be fine as long as they dont work too many fights themselves and leave it to the build up. (They have worked some finishes over the years but not near as much as Boxing for example.)

In any case Khabib has riot level heat and its good for everyone.

Yeah, they can't work too many fights. Working angles for now is enough. They just run the risk of how much is too much?

Though working fights worked for PRIDE until the authorities "caught on" to them.

What was a worked finish in UFC?

weird judging calls scream "fix" to me. Of which there have been too many to list.

According to Wanderlei Silva tons have been fixed. Lot of debate on which.

Lot damning evidence that the Lesnar Couture fight was fixed and Don Frye said that it and the second Mir fight was a work too

youre saying they have had fixed fights?

UFC doesnt pay, appoint, or control the judges. The problem with bad decisions is the lack of education and experience that the judges have. None have been in an MMA fight and most are boxing judges that have no idea what is happening on the ground.

Wanderlei is sour grapes unless he is talking about pride.


How is a fight worked when the losing fighter has his face come out looking like hamburger?

Brock was an NCAA champion wrestler. He had the skills to beat both couture and mir. Mir had some good wins, but it was clear he was never good enough to hang with the best in the division after the second brock fight.

Couture was horrendously out sized against a man with a ton of skill. He was out sized by sylvia too, but he was able to daze him in the opening seconds and outside of striking, sylvia didnt have a lot of skill. Gonzaga was not much bigger than randy.

Lol

Worked doesnt mean fake. Doesnt mean you dont hit one another. That's what will keep MMAs kayfabe much longer (like boxing) than wrestling and sumo. They play mich rougher.

But if you honestly think there's that much money on the line and people arent taking dives i dont know what to tell you.

What fights do you think people took dives?

Boxing is different because there is no follow up on a knock down, but you see guys flatlined on the ground in mma.

Dives at the highest levels with the money on the line that you are thinking would be exposed fast and there would be way more people talking about it outside of wanderlei's sour grapes and don fry

Sure man

Well dont just "sure man" give some sort of example

I can't think of one fight in the UFC that was "Fixed"

Someone could argue Ortiz vs Sonnen in Bellator or anything with involving Kimbo in EliteXC but I can't think of a fixed UFC fight.

which means they're good at fixing fights. I'd guess it's a very low % of fights that are fixed. But to think they don't fix fights is naive, given the ENTIRE history of fighting.

Reavant don't argue with Dale he thinks men should be sent to prison for sex crimes even if there is no evidence of it ever occurring.

;)

All jokes aside-

Who is fixing the fights? Has Dana been fixing the low percentage of fights? What fights do you expect to have been fixed?

Which is why I dont think the ufc has ever fixed a fight from the organizational level.

It would be a little naive to think fighters themselves may have bet for or against themselves, however losing a fight you can win is going to keep more money out of your pocket in the long run than a single bet ever would pay you.

UFC wanted a legitimate sport. One fixed fight by them ruins their entire credibility and everything they have worked 25 years for. At the very least, I am willing to say that there has not been an organization fight fix since the Firtittas owned it.

If they wanted to fix fights, connor would never lose, brock would never lose, and they wouldnt have instituted USADA.

I watched the Shane Carwin v Lesnar match on tv recently enough, and how Carwin didn't win in that first round by demolishing Lesnar and gassing himself in the process is mind boggling.

Lesnar was toast. Fights had have been called for less. You could see why someone would think there's a fix in to keep a guy who's a huge draw and star over as the company's top champ.

That Dana White has any influence in the running of the UFC is the reason the sport will never be nationalised. He's a disgrace to the company and he's obviously a crook.
Personally I lost interest years ago long before Conor got involved but seeing a little twat like him earning millions despite his behaviour is pretty much proof that Dana White runs the UFC just like the boxing promoters he hates so much. The guy is a complete arsehole.


To make Russians disappear you have to be Russian.

Huge brawl to end the show so cliche. No one even went through a table.

Hmm... their choice of president suggests otherwise.

Thats a referee decision. And referees are picked by the commission and the UFC has no influence over them. If they did, you would never see problem refs like steve masigatti running around letting fighters die, but he still regularly refs UFC.

Now, referees generally give fighters in championship matches the benefit 9f the doubt. That said, your lesnar reference is not a great one as he was showing signs of defending himself, and carwin was slowing down with every punch.

Not really. He was part of it from the beginning and has had a huge part in getting them to where they are now.

If his actions are what worries you, Look at the president of the United states lol

Who Dana fully supports. I've been a fan since '05, which I get is short for some, but I've seen Dana's progression and he's proven himself to be nothing short of an obnoxious huckster. Yeah, he's hard working, but he has little to no integrity.

wow dale love chuck liddel much

shutup cuckboy.

Cant disagree

I disagree a bit. Compared to other promotions he has shown more integrity for what goes on inside the 'ring'.

No that's not true, he hasn't. Dana White regularly degrades and fires fighters who put their bodies on the line for fuck all. He's a complete knob.
Dana White thinks he is the brand, not the UFC. He's a terrible ambassador, all you have to do is listen to him talk about some of his former champions and look back at the shit he has put ordinary people filling out his cards through over merchandising situations, injuries, things they say in the media...

All of the worst traits of boxing and pro wrestling promoters comprise his character.

Dana (the day Conor threw dolly through bus, paraphrased): Reprehensible, criminal, disgusting. What Conor did was WRONG!

Dana (the day after Conor threw dolly through bus, paraphrased): Well you know, that's just Conor being Conor.

I agree with everything said above, but that is stuff that goes on outside of the ring.

I feel like EliteXC and Bellator has not always shown respect to the sport inside of the ring (more so EliteXC).

You're obviously talking about Elite XC's supposed history of incentivising performance bonuses regarding Kimbo's opponents but the UFC likely has had more dodgy matches in a year than EliteXC did in their entire run.

Macias/Taktarov is a favourite of mine. Jim Brown stops just short of outright calling it a fix in the commentary.
Mark Hall actually threw fights. UFC was born as a completely set-up tournament where each fighter was hand picked to lose to Royce Gracie. UFC has never grown in that regard. Most champions are given the Rocky 3 treatment until they get Clubbered.
It wasn't just Pride and Elite XC doing it. UFC definitely holds fighters back and interferes in their rankings to avoid certain match ups. Conor McGregor should have fought a decent BJJ guy earlier but they saved it and he lost badly to the perennially awesome Nate Diaz. Nate Diaz is about as marketable as candles on the sun so they made them fight again until Diaz lost.
Now Conor's a multi millionaire getting chances to earn even more just by being a penis outside of the ring.

I was a huge fan for years but I stopped entirely about six years ago. The whole thing is too corrupted by Dana White's interference.

Dana became president of the company in 2001 the fight you mentioned and the Tourneys happened before that.

The Nate Diaz/Conor point you made is not about the action inside the ring but outside. Which I agree that happens a lot Sonnen/Jones, DC/Brock, etc.

But once the fighters get in the ring you don't hear of anything that would taint the sport. You don't hear of Dana offering 'Fighter X' more money to stand with 'Fighter Y' instead of going to the ground, etc.

I'm aware of that, I was giving you a history lesson in the nature of the UFC. It has literally always been at best a cherry pick and at worst outright fraud. There are plenty of decent, fair fights but when it comes down to it there are almost as many worrying examples of exploitation.

You keep saying that Dana White has never done anything to the action inside the ring but you're talking shite. Look at the CM Punk disaster. Dana White allowed that to happen, paid millions for it and then went out of his way to belittle the spectacle that unfolded in the cage. Twice. Putting an unknown quantity in against real fighters is crazy talk at this stage in the game. Freak show fights are not helping anybody.
Before that we had James Toney in the cage. A man visibly and audibly ruined by CTE.

I can pull out fucking hundreds of these incidents. He can't physically ruin a fight inside the cage but he regularly allows injured guys, no talent guys and outrageously unfit or injured people to participate. I say allow but often it's pure pressure, he gets these guys under contract and they get treated worse than the WWE lockeroom.

Look at the list of fighters trying to sue UFC for the way they ended up afterwards. Nate Quarry's face is held together by a titanium mesh. But yeah he sure could take a punch.

Big Vic basing his entire theory around EliteXC's alleged preferable treatment of Kimbo Slice.

UFC hired Kimbo, did you ever see the Houston Alexander fight? He had to have been paid off. 15 minutes of Ring a Rosies

in fairness, Houston blew a bag of dicks as a fighter.

He was still capable of smashing Kimbo Slice into oblivion. Houston had wins against Keith Jardine and Alessio Sakara... two of the heavier handed fighters of the time. If Houston had fought as he usually did he was either KO'ing Kimbo or getting laid out trying.

Houston literally danced sideways around the ring for 15 minutes. I think Houston was told not to do a damned thing in that match.