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Jordan 05-28-2022 10:26 AM

AEW Double or Nothing 2022: Hangman v Punk/Owen Hart Tournament Finals and more! Live analysis and discussion!
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On Sunday May 29, the world will be watching when <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a> takes over Las Vegas for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDoN?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDoN</a> Double Or Nothing! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a> World Champion <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Hangman?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Hangman</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/theAdamPage?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@theadampage</a> defends his title against <a href="https://twitter.com/CMPunk?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CMPunk</a> on PPV. Watch it LIVE IN THEATERS! <a href="https://t.co/yiQrj9c4vg">pic.twitter.com/yiQrj9c4vg</a></p>&mdash; All Elite Wrestling (@AEW) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW/status/1530504154422071303?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 28, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
  • AEW World Champion Hangman Page defends against CM Punk
  • AEW Women's World Champion Thunder Rosa defends against Serena Deeb
  • Men's Owen Hart Foundation Tournament finals: Samoa Joe vs. Adam Cole
  • Women's Owen Hart Foundation Tournament finals: Britt Baker vs. Ruby Soho
  • MJF vs. Wardlow
  • Anarchy in the Arena match: Jericho Appreciation Society (Chris Jericho, Jake Hager, Daniel Garcia, Matt Menard & Angelo Parker) vs. Eddie Kingston, Santana, Ortiz, Jon Moxley & Bryan Danielson
  • AEW Tag Team Champions Jungle Boy & Luchasaurus defend against Ricky Starks & Powerhouse Hobbs and Keith Lee & Swerve Strickland in a triple threat match
  • The Young Bucks vs. The Hardys
  • Darby Allin vs. Kyle O'Reilly
  • Mixed tag match: Scorpio Sky, Ethan Page & Paige VanZant vs. Sammy Guevara, Frankie Kazarian & Tay Conti
  • The House of Black (Malakai Black, Brody King & Buddy Matthews) vs. Death Triangle (PAC, Penta Oscuro & Rey Fenix)
  • TBS Champion Jade Cargill defends against Anna Jay
  • Pre-show: Hook & Danhausen vs. Tony Nese & "Smart" Mark Sterling

Jordan 05-28-2022 10:28 AM

I'd say the Vegas odds on this show edging closer to 5 hours than 4 is probably about -220.

Jordan 05-28-2022 10:33 AM

This is probably the very first PPV for AEW where there are SO many matchups that I don't care at all about. My interest is really only peaked for Page/Punk, Anarchy in the Arena, MJF/Wardlow, and I'm halfway interested in Bucks/Hardys, Tag Team Championship triangle match and The House of Black against Death Triangle.

If those slap it will a good show. Of course the other matches can and will likely deliver too it's just there are so many that I can't care about. I get wanting to have Darby and O'Reilly on the show but it's packed man, wtf do we need that here for? Put it on Dynamite. Set it up in an angle on the PPV to get them their checks.

Tony spoke about the NBA game playing at the same time and he's going to time out the show so that NBA fans won't miss the main event. So stupid.

screech 05-28-2022 11:13 AM

I don't know why this is my first thought when looking at this card but I hope Men of the Year do something that doesn't involve Sammy Guevara after this.

xrodmuc316 05-28-2022 12:04 PM

I hope Hangman holds Tiny up for about $5 million or refuses to lose to a broken down fraud.

Evil Vito 05-28-2022 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan (Post 5552313)
If those slap it will a good show. Of course the other matches can and will likely deliver too it's just there are so many that I can't care about. I get wanting to have Darby and O'Reilly on the show but it's packed man, wtf do we need that here for? Put it on Dynamite. Set it up in an angle on the PPV to get them their checks.

Yeah I think they couldn't bring themselves to omit Darby and I assume if Sting weren't hurt it'd have been reDragon vs. Darby/Sting.

But honestly, before Revolution they had 3 pre-show matches. Darby and KOR as the pre-show "main event" feels totally workable, let them fly at each other for 15 minutes and call it a day. Don't see the need to shoehorn it onto here.

Don't really get Jade/Anna as a main show match either. We know Jade is winning, she's already beaten Anna before. As happy in the pants Anna makes me I don't need to see it again.

Evil Vito 05-28-2022 12:12 PM

AEW PPVs always deliver, and looking at the card I see a handful of matches that should be good to great. I'm not even that put off by AEW PPVs being long because they only do 4 a year, so it makes sense to me.

But that still doesn't mean you need to shoehorn people onto the main card either. I guess it was either this or another one of those clusterfuck Casino matches. Ah well.

Evil Vito 05-28-2022 12:15 PM

Wonder if anyone from NJPW will be turning up to set up a Forbidden Door match.

I still have an inkling that a lot of that card will be multi-man tags like a normal NJPW show. If we get more than one marquee singles match we'll be lucky.

Crippla 05-28-2022 12:27 PM

Haven't watched AEW in a while but this card sounds l
Loaded...I think I need to catch up on Dynamite and check this PPV out

ron the dial 05-28-2022 12:40 PM

least excited i've been for an AEW ppv!

Damian Rey 2.0 05-28-2022 02:01 PM

I don’t like how many last minute matches they’ve plugged in.

Paige v Punk
Men of the year/Sammy/Tay/Frankie
Tag title match
Owen tourney finals
Women’s title
HookHausen v Neese and Sterling
House of black v death triangle

That should be the main show as those have been the longest running angles. And I’d argue The house of Black Death triangle has gone on way too long. The Sammy v Scorpio has went on too long too but now they’re at least blowing off the Tay v Van Zant mini feud it created.

I still think the card will deliver bell to bell but it feels really bloated for no reason other than get guys a ppv pay day. Most of those extra matches don’t even need to be on the pre snow to be honest.

Here’s hoping Joe and Ruby come out on top of the tourney. Ruby needs a big win as her character has been a failure in that regard after losing two title matches in a year. Cole isn’t doing much for me and I think the winner of the tourney should get a world title shot, and Joe v Punk has way more appeal to me than Punk v Cole.

Damian Rey 2.0 05-28-2022 02:01 PM

Oh and the anarchy in the arena match is fine but idk what BBC is doing in there.

#1-norm-fan 05-28-2022 02:16 PM

You forgot MJF-Wardlow

Supreme Olajuwon 05-28-2022 02:30 PM

There’s 6 matches I’m very excited about, and then a lot of stuff I don’t care about or don’t care for. Completely burnt out on Adam Cole. Starting to get there with Britt Baker as well. Don’t care about the Sammy/Men of the Year feud. I like Darby and O’Reilly but that shld be on the pre show. Same with Jade and Anna. Hardys/Bucks seems way too rushed for a dream match.

That being said, I am jacked to the tits for the matches I am looking forward to. And AEW has yet to do a bad ppv. So I hope all the good stuff isn’t weighed down by the bloat.

Damian Rey 2.0 05-28-2022 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-norm-fan (Post 5552355)
You forgot MJF-Wardlow

Dammit you’re right. That one too.

Evil Vito 05-28-2022 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 5552347)
Cole isn’t doing much for me

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 5552356)
Completely burnt out on Adam Cole.

These sentiments seem pretty consistent across AEW fandom, even their subreddit which tends to be optimistic about everything have grown sick of him.

I don't dislike Cole and was jazzed to see him in AEW. He's a good hand and there's a place for him. But he just doesn't seem worth the amount of exposure they've given him.

As a character he's always been exactly the same guy. ROH Cole is the same as NJPW Cole is the same as NXT Cole. Doesn't seem to have the range to be anything other than a smarmy heel.

That they're actively rehashing Undisputed Era just adds to the optics that he's not really brought anything new to the table.

Evil Vito 05-28-2022 03:25 PM

The lone benefit to Undisputed Era being in AEW was to set up the eventual match with Omega and The Bucks. Last winter I really thought DoN would be the time for it but didn't realize the real extent of Omega's injuries. I assume that program will eventually happen but now not til All Out or Full Gear.

So my fear now is that they'll stall for time with Cole by having him and another overexposed character in Baker win the Owen trophies and be an annoying power couple. If they feud with Sammy and Tay it might be the first time I actively change the channel during an AEW segment.

#1-norm-fan 05-28-2022 03:36 PM

Cole ever being a “world” champion was ridiculous. The best use for him was to take advantage the bit of credibility that flub in NXT gave him by jobbing him to the champ as soon as possible and then move him down to the midcard. Joe should beat him handily.

#1-norm-fan 05-28-2022 03:36 PM

I wouldn’t have a problem with Britt winning though.

xrodmuc316 05-28-2022 05:04 PM

Adam Cole > CM Phil

xrodmuc316 05-28-2022 05:12 PM

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Mr. Nerfect 05-28-2022 05:36 PM

Lol, the world won’t be watching. Card looks awful. AEW doesn’t matter. Who could possibly honestly care about this shit?

Triple A 05-28-2022 05:49 PM

Looking forward to this PPV!

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-28-2022 09:42 PM

Apparently, MJF went MIA for a fan meet and greet. Sheeeeit.

Jordan 05-28-2022 09:53 PM

I wonder if MJF is going to Warrior style hold up Tony and Tony will secretly be marking out that he's being held up by "the greatest heel in the business today, maybe ever!"

xrodmuc316 05-28-2022 09:56 PM

Apparently AEW was charging $100 for the meet and greet, while paying MJF peanuts compared to all of Tiny's favorite ex WWEers.

Vastardikai 05-28-2022 10:07 PM

Apparently, Samoa Joe became Samoa No Show, as well.

slik 05-28-2022 10:14 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I can confirm a flight out of Las Vegas tonight has been booked for MJF.<br><br>Full story is on <a href="https://t.co/jy8u4a7WDa">https://t.co/jy8u4a7WDa</a>. <a href="https://t.co/tw14W175vg">pic.twitter.com/tw14W175vg</a></p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1530731592846540800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Triple A 05-28-2022 10:16 PM

wtf

weather vane 05-28-2022 10:21 PM

He’s got you guys.

Unless this isn’t a work and colour me shocked.

slik 05-28-2022 10:26 PM

MJF vs Wardlow is the big money match for me at Double or Nothing

I'm sort of interested in Punk/Hangman but this was really a one-match show for me...

slik 05-28-2022 10:27 PM

Will give him the benefit of the doubt that maybe it's a family emergency until more info is known

weather vane 05-28-2022 10:34 PM

No chance it’s a family emergency.

weather vane 05-28-2022 10:34 PM

I’ll tell you this. I’m amped to watch tomorrow night now when I really wasn’t.

Triple A 05-28-2022 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weather vane (Post 5552433)
He’s got you guys.

Unless this isn’t a work and colour me shocked.

Would be weird if it was a work since they charged fans $100 for the meet and greet

Triple A 05-28-2022 10:46 PM

MJF easily the best part of AEW so would suck dick if he's gonna be gone... would be awful in WWE

Also seems dumb to burn a bridge with AEW if he's after a big contract offer from WWE... if AEW is out of the picture, WWE can low ball him

Guess he was so pissed at something that he didn't care

weather vane 05-28-2022 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 5552439)
Would be weird if it was a work since they charged fans $100 for the meet and greet

Guys miss. I’m sure it was for a bunch of wrestlers. I’m also sure they offered something to the people THAT mad MJF missed.

Or I’m a moron and wrong.

xrodmuc316 05-28-2022 10:56 PM

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slik 05-28-2022 11:13 PM

Ricky Starks going to get retconned into being the 4th pillar this whole time

Crippla 05-28-2022 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weather vane (Post 5552441)
Guys miss. I’m sure it was for a bunch of wrestlers. I’m also sure they offered something to the people THAT mad MJF missed.

Or I’m a moron and wrong.

It sounds like a work to be ....weird coincidence that both MJF and Samoa Joe no showed but idk


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