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Mr. Nerfect 11-14-2017 12:16 AM

No, he did not.

Mr. Nerfect 11-14-2017 12:16 AM

I like JamesSteele, but I don't like Triple H, and I'm more down on modern Triple H and pre-Reign of Terror Triple H than most people are.

Tom Guycott 11-14-2017 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark One (Post 5041984)
Wait.

Did Brock just shake hands with that kid?

I thought Brock didn't give a shit about kids.

Specifically Heath Slater's.

SlickyTrickyDamon 11-14-2017 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5042169)
I like JamesSteele, but I don't like Triple H, and I'm more down on modern Triple H and pre-Reign of Terror Triple H than most people are.

Who cares.

NXT is awesome.

BOW DOWN TO THE KING!

Tom Guycott 11-14-2017 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5042169)
I like JamesSteele, but I don't like Triple H, and I'm more down on modern Triple H and pre-Reign of Terror Triple H than most people are.

I'm down on Triple H period. He has his moments, but it feels like he isn't nearly as big a deal as they try to pretend he is/was. Case in point: trying to paint Kurt as "over the hill", but Hunter deciding to take off his suit and he's supposed to instantly be the counterbalance to the other team having Cena? He and Angle are practically peers on equal footing, but somehow Hunter is supposed to yet again be this massively dangerous secret weapon and waaayyyy better than Kurt freakin' Angle? The fuck outta here.

"... he.... he did, didn't he? He came out of retirement to beat me. Then, he went away again." -CM Punk

Mr. Nerfect 11-14-2017 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 5042171)
Who cares.

NXT is awesome.

BOW DOWN TO THE KING!

Not at generating stars.

Mr. Nerfect 11-14-2017 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 5042182)
I'm down on Triple H period. He has his moments, but it feels like he isn't nearly as big a deal as they try to pretend he is/was. Case in point: trying to paint Kurt as "over the hill", but Hunter deciding to take off his suit and he's supposed to instantly be the counterbalance to the other team having Cena? He and Angle are practically peers on equal footing, but somehow Hunter is supposed to yet again be this massively dangerous secret weapon and waaayyyy better than Kurt freakin' Angle? The fuck outta here.

"... he.... he did, didn't he? He came out of retirement to beat me. Then, he went away again." -CM Punk

He's such a fucking goober during the Attitude era. I had this idea that he was cool and part of the sculpting of it. Fuck no. He's a dork hanger-on generally getting apathy. When he finally wins the WWF Title, he's not nearly as over as he needs to be. Then Mick Foley breaks his back bending over for Triple H as far as he did to get him ready for WrestleMania, where he's involved in some stunt booking and you consequently get a another great PPV buy out of it, but then he amounts to about the rest as everybody else in a, grant you, very hot year.

Don't get me wrong, his work in 2000 was great. But there's this idea that he's responsible for that being a banner year for the company. That was all The Rock. Then he actually fucks Kurt Angle in the later part of that year. When he came back it wasn't long until he was tanking as a babyface. Since then he has meant nothing to business or my personal enjoyment of the show.

He's obviously significant. I wouldn't argue otherwise. But he's not anywhere near as effective in that significant role as the company makes out, and people just gobble that shit up. When he was active he was constantly cutting down people around him so he would appear taller, and he would shoe-horn himself into stuff he had no business being involved in. That Triple Threat at WrestleMania XXIV -- what the fuck was that about? WrestleMania does better when he's not there, yet he's got to have this giant fucking entrance every year to remind us of how important it is when Triple H comes to town, even though no one gives a fuck.

In 2011 the hottest angle they had somehow became Triple H vs. Nash. In 2012 he's wrestling The Undertaker for the third time at WrestleMania. In 2013 he's beating Brock Lesnar at WrestleMania. In 2014 he tried to get the Punk match. In 2015 he's beating Sting at WrestleMania. In 2016 he's shoe-horned himself into the main event of their biggest show ever. Only a handful of people in the world see Triple H as the opponent of an act they're interested in and get more interested.

SlickyTrickyDamon 11-14-2017 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5042183)
Not at generating stars.

You stupid fuck.

Seth Rollins
Roman Reigns
Asuka
Sasha
Bayley
Charlotte.
GLORIOUS!

And the guys that needed a little bit of WWE style/rub

Joe
Balor

Soon the Revival when they can keep from getting hurt.

Also soon AOP. Maybe Gargano? Andrade Cien Almas.

DAMN iNATOR 11-14-2017 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Shisen Kopf (Post 5042118)
I don't like Braun Strowman's nickname "the monster among men" is very boring. He should be known as "Super Tall" Strowman. Much better.

He's also referred to as a "Mountain of a Man"

slik 11-14-2017 05:02 AM

I was really tired and fell asleep but am caught up now
I'm fine with HHH on the team +++ start of HHH/Angle +++ heel Jordan, who'll probably be revealed to be a fake implanted by THE GAME from the start...

Braun <3 RIP Kane

slik 11-14-2017 05:47 AM

Kind of funny Bray Wyatt lost clean to Jason Jordan

#BROKEN Hasney 11-14-2017 05:52 AM

Not really. It's Bray Wyatt, it's what he does.

#BROKEN Hasney 11-14-2017 05:54 AM

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Mr. Nerfect 11-14-2017 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 5042188)
You stupid fuck.

Seth Rollins
Roman Reigns
Asuka
Sasha
Bayley
Charlotte.
GLORIOUS!

And the guys that needed a little bit of WWE style/rub

Joe
Balor

Soon the Revival when they can keep from getting hurt.

Also soon AOP. Maybe Gargano? Andrade Cien Almas.

None of them are stars, mate.

Mr. Nerfect 11-14-2017 06:54 AM

Remember that photo where Ric Flair was with Charlotte and they didn't even know Charlotte was a wrestler? Yeah.

Evil Vito 11-14-2017 08:44 AM

STD is an even bigger WWE apologist than The CyNick

RaginRonic 11-14-2017 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 5042166)
Did JamesSteele show up tonight?

Doesn't look like it.

Not like this forum needs him to be successful anyway.

This place can get itself over without him blowing his load all over the place here.

Not much of a load anyway, given how sterile he is, after a chimp raped him at the zoo.

XD

Shisen Kopf 11-14-2017 12:19 PM

Was hoping they'd replace Jason Jordan with Tatanka but nope. Triple H as always.

XL 11-14-2017 12:19 PM

I’m by no means a big Bray Wyatt fan but it bugs me how they handle him. Not only the clean pinfall loss, just the way they’re like “Oh, btw Bray is back tonight”.

Shisen Kopf 11-14-2017 12:23 PM

They've ruined the Bray Wyatt character. He needs a new gimmick

slik 11-14-2017 12:42 PM

He should become a fisherman and get a hook like the bad guy in "I Know What You Did Last Summer"

FISHERMAN HOOK BRAY ONLY

Shisen Kopf 11-14-2017 02:36 PM

Just give him a biker surfer gimmick ONLY

Emperor Smeat 11-14-2017 03:15 PM

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Lock Jaw 11-14-2017 04:13 PM

"Braun Strowman emerges from gaping hole"

Mr. Nerfect 11-14-2017 04:18 PM

They don't think anything is broken about Bray. They think they have their new Kane/Mankind, in that they have a guy they can always tell you is a main eventer and people will just believe it. He'll do a spooky promo and people will say "Oh man, that guy's tough" and then he'll lose and it'll somehow help.

Anybody Thrilla 11-14-2017 04:32 PM

I don't want to ruffle any feathers here, but I am very much looking forward to Survivor Series.

Mr. Nerfect 11-14-2017 04:59 PM

It's going to be interesting. Brock vs. AJ could potentially be better than the WrestleMania main event. The elimination tag is going to have lots of "moments." It'll be interesting to see how they fuck it up.

XL 11-14-2017 05:26 PM

It’s a bit of a mixed bag for me; AJ/Brock should be good but I’ve no interest in the other champ vs champ matches even if they do switch some components tonight. They’re all currently heel vs heel matches which is just odd, but the needle wouldn’t move for me if they switch Corbin out for Sin Cara.

The New Day vs Shield should be good, and there’s enough intrigue in the 5 on 5 with the guys in the match and the assorted fringe players (Kane, Zayn, Owens, Jordan, etc)

So 3 matches that I’m interested in, sounds about par for the course if the last few PPVs are anything to go by.

Emperor Smeat 11-14-2017 05:31 PM

Good/Bad news regarding the ratings this week.

The good being it was an increase compared to last week and they had two hours in the 3+ million range for viewers. Also good for the yearly comparison being up considering the NFL season usually murders RAW's ratings.

The bad being the 3rd hour suffering a big drop and caused a gap in the rankings for the WWE. Also possibly a sign of viewer fatigue with main event match antics involving Braun.

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Originally Posted by TPWW Frontpage via Triple A
Monday’s Raw drew an average of 3,030,000 viewers, up from last week’s 2,841,000 viewers ...

Raw was #2, 3 and 6 on cable in the 18-49 demographic for the night, behind the NFL game, with the third hour at #6 behind SportsCenter and “Love and Hip Hop 8.”

Hourly breakdown:

8PM: 3,262,000
9PM: 3,061,000
10PM: 2,769,000


#1-norm-fan 11-14-2017 06:59 PM

Wait, was that "Braun coming out from a hole in the ring" video from last night? I could have swore they did that exact thing like a year ago with Big Show or someone.


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