This sounds good out of context.

Even in context...

I knew what I was doing when I set it up, Gertner wasn't going to miss that opportunity.

Nothing but net.

I should have said "I prefer a lovely schoolboy, stick my hand between his legs and get him on his back."

A reminder to be thorough with the innuendo like Lawler.

The Don Muraco Special

Do you think Ric Flair, Terry Funk and numerous other aged wrestlers actually became addicted to the buzz of announcing their retirement or are they really just crazy old men who can't sit still for five minutes to actually retire and enjoy it?

Which titles are your favourites? If you ran a federation which would you use?

I think the European title was my favourite non-World title. I liked the WCW TV Title too, just seemed like a silly name because they were all on TV.

Euro title would have worked if they didn't bury Davey and put the title on Shawn who subsequently turned it into a prop. The angle worked during the moment, and the Euro title was always a token for Smith. But the Bulldog fan in me loves an alternate universe where he stayed in the WWF, remained relevant/uninjured, and brought prominence to the European title.

BTW I have no idea why I'm responding to your posts, seeing as I'm not Gertner. Plus, he knows far more than me about wrestling.

I assume it's because I have very little to live for.

It felt like D Lo held it for ages but looking at the title history he had four very short stints over the course of a year or so.

He did his best. Honestly, what a great run he had in 1998 and 99 up until Russo left. Literally was supposed to be an extra in the nation. Then developed his character, lost a shit ton of weight, and had some great matches. Fuck he was funny with Mark Henry.

I loved everything about D Lo Brown. He had the best theme tune of all time and by a long way too. I still play it.

I think wrestlers get so consumed in the lifestyle that it's all they know. Andre the Giant worked consistently from late 87 until 1990 working a full House Show schedule. Dude was wrestling Big John Studd in high school gyms in 1989. The reason was because he loved being around the boys so much. Poor financial decisions play a part as well.

I would go with the World Title, a secondary title like an IC or US, a T.V title that was defended only on television, tag titles and womens singles title.

I loved the WCW T.V title due to the random names who held it. Lol friggen Rick Martel in 98. Just tremendous.

Haha I used to bump that theme in my 1988 Beretta all the time

Lol stop. If you posted 10 WWE theme songs, or wrestler photos from the past 5 years I would probably get 5 right.

I wouldn't know that much either. We have similar wheelhouses... I'd say mine is a few years after yours.

Wow. I'd have thought a fellow MSU fan would have nothing but love for an alumni like Steele. Had a great personality and a way more entertaining Animal than Batista. Really miss George.

I like George Steele in small doses.

You can tell the contrast in both Vinces in the way Steele was portrayed.

With Sr., he was kind of just a standard sleazy heel with a unique look who kind of acted like an animal. Cut heel promos like any other worker.

With Jr., he was a full-on cartoon character who couldn't even speak. Obviously the more memorable of the two portrayals and I would assume he drew much better as a muppet. But fuck, he was grating.

The green tongue and turnbuckle chewing were just stupid. That is Memphis bullshit.

Gertner is there anyone in wrestling that you hate beyond redemption and if so, why?

Lol awwww I love 80s Memphis wrestling. Best weekly television show from the era.

Hmmmmmm, wrestlers that I hate. Watching mid 80s WWF House Shows has cause me to hate Rene Goulet because of his stupid claw hold that he'd do over and over again during matches that would last for minutes at a time.

I was also not a fan at all of Pedro Morales. His matches were just bleh. Hated when he would come on. Plus I'm not Puerto Rican so I never really "got" Morales.

But the wrestler I hate more than anyone is....


Shane Douglas.

I hate his promos, I hated his stupid belly to belly suplex, I hated everything about him. He's just fucking awful.

What were your thoughts on Shane's cousin Dean?

Shane Douglas comes across as a cunt in every interview I've seen. I never cared for him either.

They can both eat my ass

Dude you were not kidding about the Oddities being over. I don't remember that sort of pop. Golga Vs Jeff Jarrett on Heat and the crowd just loses their shit when the intro hits.
I remember ICP and the Oddities but I thought their intro was different. Possibly they dubbed it over.

was there any reaction during the match or just for the intro?

They were pretty into it, it was on Heat in 98 or 99 and the crowd was pretty pissed when Jarrett won via Debra throwing Cartman to Golga who cuddled it until Double J hit the reverse Russian legsweep for the win.

I think they mostly dug the intro though because ICP and the whole gang came out dancing around like lunatics.

They were definitely an over act.

You know who else were crazy fucking over : Too Cool and Rikishi. I don't think people remember how bloody over they were in 99/2000. They were just as over as any face in the company.

I remember how over they were, I was a big fan of their act. I remember being upset when Grandmaster Sexay disappeared and never came back.

K Kwik and Essa Rios used to get big reactions every week on Heat. I really loved K Kwik, I vaguely remember e-mailing Jim Ross at WWE to ask why they let him go but alas he must have been weak from the palsy as no reply ever came.

Hey Gertner, isn't it fucking lame that Wiki removed every wrestler's finisher section from their pages? I wonder why they did that.

Yeah, it's pretty well documented how over too cool/rikishi were. Unfortunately, there was always a shelflife on said overness.

I was just talking about that with someone. Soooooo fucking lame.

Rikishi turned heel and Scotty tore his ACL. That was it.

I still get real and painful pangs of depression and anger when I think about Bob Backlund Vs Bret Hart and how much that storyline asked of Bret who had already been fucked around by WWE so many times before. Losing to Yoko then watching Hogan beat him was bad news, but putting old Bob Backlund's pasty white tits over only to watch Diesel beast him is my worst wrestling memory.

I think I am a Bob Backlund "mark" in that I actually hate him for that. I really mean it.

Just writing that made me rub my forehead and sigh.

Fucking Backlund.

It's proof that a heel can be too good and an angle too raw. Bret Hart played the "put upon" hero so brilliantly I still hate Owen a bit.

I love that Mr. Backlund character so damn much lol. The whole finish to the Bret vs Backlund match was so great. Owen was such a little shit lol