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Destor 08-28-2018 12:28 PM

Dragon Quest 11
 
Any hype on TPWW for this? Drops next Tuesday.

Ultra Mantis 08-28-2018 01:17 PM

I have never played a mainline Dragon Quest, but I have heard good things about them. Not really top level "hype" because I know absolutely nothing about the franchise and especially this particular entry, but I was interested enough to put it on my amazon wishlist in May. I have my eye on it.

Destor 08-28-2018 01:23 PM

I preordered it. Friend who lives in JPN said this was a top of the line series there so I'll def be playing soonish. Prob around early winter.

Ultra Mantis 08-28-2018 03:12 PM

Yeah, currently have Nier Automata, Ni No Kuni 2, Witcher 3, Nioh, Breath of the Wild and Persona 5 NG+ queued up so that might be my 2018 schedule filled.

I've definitely heard it mentioned as the top JRPG series but I think only one of them was ever released on home console outside of Japan before this. I know there have been DS ports but I'm not much of a handheld guy.

Seph said he was looking forward to this one more than Octopath so going to assume he will be all over this if he ever made it through the gate.

Destor 08-28-2018 03:17 PM

I feel like he was consumed never to be seen again :'(

Ultra Mantis 08-28-2018 04:55 PM

Seph's business trip was actually touring with a troupe of travelling actors in a quest to track down his missing father :'(

Destor 08-28-2018 05:26 PM

Lyblac wins again :(

Destor 10-20-2018 06:51 PM

Forgot i made this.

Veronica is the sassiest character of all time and i love her.

Game is painfully easy though.

Fignuts 10-20-2018 10:05 PM

When I was 5 or 6 years old, one of the first games I got for the NES was Dragon Warrior. It turned me of so much, I didn't play another RPG again until Final Fantasy 7.

Destor 10-20-2018 10:53 PM

Yeah early rpgs werent the best. FF2 and FF3 are some of the worst games ever made.

Fignuts 10-21-2018 01:10 AM

FF1 was really great for it's time. Still fun to run through it today. Prefer the GBA version though. Some great sprite art there. Specifically for the four fiends.

Fignuts 10-21-2018 01:13 AM

Also, I wouldn't say FF3 was bad. Hard as balls, and has issues that certainly don't make it any easier, but I wouldn't put it in the same group as FF2.

That said, you couldn't pay me to go through that final dungeon again.

Fignuts 10-21-2018 01:16 AM

Also, ff3 had this

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Destor 10-21-2018 01:22 AM

Ff1 totally holds up

OssMan 10-21-2018 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5186496)
When I was 5 or 6 years old, one of the first games I got for the NES was Dragon Warrior. It turned me of so much, I didn't play another RPG again until Final Fantasy 7.

Same, I've been turned off Dragon Quest since the first one. Might give this a shot though

Tom Guycott 10-21-2018 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5186496)
When I was 5 or 6 years old, one of the first games I got for the NES was Dragon Warrior. It turned me of so much, I didn't play another RPG again until Final Fantasy 7.

Opposite. I liked the mechanic being drastically different than "jump on this guy" or "run right and shoot". Even hybrid games like Crystalis, though one of my favorites, didn't quite scratch that turn-based itch. Final Fantasy and the NES port of Ultima Exodus easily ate at least one school year's worth of free time (until my dad got a lucky break in Ultima, which soured me on that game for a long while. He still thinks it's funny I got pissed).

However, I could have easily been on the same boat as you if Hydlide was my first one, which it almost was.

Destor 10-22-2018 10:49 AM

Turn based games was something I didnt enjoy initially but now its all I want to play.

Sepholio 10-22-2018 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5186474)
Forgot i made this.

Veronica is the sassiest character of all time and i love her.

Game is painfully easy though.

Yeah it is, outside of a couple boss fights. I've read that if you like a challenge you should play it on hard. It seems that difficulty is tuned to what most people like us actually want. That would have been useful information before we started though, wouldn't it?

I've also read a little bit about these "draconian" settings that you can enable on subsequent playthroughs that really seem like they could make this game incredibly hard.

And yes Veronica is such a bitch and I love her as well. I also enjoy Sylvando because they went over the top with him. He's so flamboyant and his voice actor nails the role. I always get a good laugh from scenes he has a good amount of involvement in.

Sepholio 10-22-2018 04:56 PM

How far in are you Destor?

OssMan 10-22-2018 05:07 PM

Turn based games are something I grew up loving and now shrug at because the elements I like about them have mostly been swept aside.

Sepholio 10-22-2018 05:41 PM

That's why I particularly like the DQ games. They held onto the old school elements. This game would feel right at home in the 90's other than the fact it's prettier than those games.

Destor 10-22-2018 06:41 PM

@Seph

I just finished the MMA tourney

And yeah DQ11 is a classic JRPG in every sense. Really enjoyable. I was wish i had set the difficulty higher but the story and characters totally hold my attention. Im doing less encounters to keep my level low and its making for a better time

Destor 10-22-2018 06:42 PM

And Veronica is seriously one of my fav characters ever. I adore her so much

Sepholio 10-22-2018 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5186993)
@Seph

I just finished the MMA tourney

And yeah DQ11 is a classic JRPG in every sense. Really enjoyable. I was wish i had set the difficulty higher but the story and characters totally hold my attention. Im doing less encounters to keep my level low and its making for a better time

This is exactly what I did. I was grinding a little at first, now I just coast. When I go through an area I might fight one battle against each diff enemy type on the overworld. Now I occasionally run into stronger enemies that can be a bit troublesome and the bosses actually seem threatening. There are a couple that legit whooped me a few times. Then theres been some where it was a skin of my teeth win, out of MP and items and people dead and just manage to pull it off.

Sepholio 10-22-2018 08:22 PM

Man I cant wait for you to catch up a bit to where I'm at. There's this story event I want to talk about but obviously would be spoiling it for you. You'll know when it happens though. It's such a rare story beat for an RPG to take and they have some big shoes to fill in regards to the previous games that tried it.

Destor 10-22-2018 09:32 PM

Im slow going. 20 hrs in and its taken me a few weeks.

Sepholio 10-24-2018 11:39 AM

Indeed. I learned a valuable trick last night that may help you in your adventure. I'm sure you see how the skill unlock board works by now....but I found out that you can buy a bunch of panels to unlock some distant panel on the board, then refund all the points you spent to get to it at a priest while keeping the ability you wanted :o

Destor 10-24-2018 03:54 PM

Ive actually used that already! Plan to again when I switch from Great swords to dual wielding later

Sepholio 10-30-2018 06:08 AM

Act 2 is kinda strange in that the story is more free form. There is an order it should be done in and a little gating at times to stop you from going to certain places, but if you make it to somewhere that has a part in the story it will trigger the scenes and let you do it even if you havent done everything before it yet. It doesnt ryin anything as these situations are kind of independent from one another, but still, its odd.

I happened upon a boss a couple days ago thinking it was side content. It wrecked me though so I eventually left. Come to find out later that its actually a story boss from much later on and gives you an item you need. However if I had happened to already do it I could just progress immediately. Kinda strange to see that in an old school jrpg. But yeah, just know, if you run into something stupid hard just go elsewhere and progress other bits of the story first.

Destor 10-30-2018 08:18 AM

Is "act 2" collecting the spheres? Im past that if so

Sepholio 10-30-2018 09:25 AM

Nay. Act 2 starts after an extremely major plot event. You aren't there yet but you'll know. How many spheres do you have?

Destor 10-30-2018 10:21 AM

I didnt wanna spoil but im immediately after that. Back in Cobblestone.

Destor 10-30-2018 11:49 AM

ftr I think turning in the spheres and the Yggrasil is the close of act 2 tho...

Sepholio 10-30-2018 01:47 PM

The acts are broken up by when they make sidequests available, best I can tell. Before Yggdrasil the list only has 26, afterwards it changes and goes up to 47, and after another event later on it will go up again.

Destor 10-30-2018 02:10 PM

but writing structure dictates that

SPOILER: show
act 1: positive. Act 2: positive Act 3: negative = Tragedy

act 1: positive. Act 2: negative Act 3: positive = comedy (literary sense)



So based off the events of Yggdrasil I have to say that that was the conclusion of act 2.

Destor 11-03-2018 07:43 PM

This game keeps getting better by large amounts

Sepholio 11-03-2018 08:06 PM

Yeah I for sure enjoy it. Especially some of the stuff the second tier skills some characters have lets you do.

Sepholio 11-03-2018 08:07 PM

I have finally reached a boss I can't beat either. Well, I could, but only a couple people will survive and I want that experience haha. Gotta grind I spose. Getting close to the end I think, regardless.

Sepholio 11-03-2018 08:08 PM

Grinding is super easy though with the electro-light and hallelujah pep powers.

Destor 11-03-2018 08:09 PM

The story and the characters have really grown on me and being underleveled has made the game more tactical. Im 55ish hours in and its so good. Still wish it was tougher but its good all the same.


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