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Ruien 12-06-2017 02:08 PM

I would pay 10 dollars to see Cody wrestler if he was in my area.

Evil Vito 12-06-2017 02:40 PM

I saw two indy shows headlined by Cody this year. Cody/Ricochet and Cody/Mysterio. Fun times.

KIRA 12-06-2017 03:53 PM

If they promise free food that might help

Lock Jaw 12-06-2017 04:10 PM

Free hookers and blow

Mr. Nerfect 12-06-2017 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by thecc (Post 5055022)
To be fair they probably could have drawn more for the Chicago show if roh ran a bigger venue. If I recall tickets sold out in like a week.

I don't think that's because people are lined up around the block though. I think that's just the same guys going.

Mr. Nerfect 12-06-2017 05:18 PM

There's a term in politics when you start believing you can achieve the promises you should never make. I've forgotten what it is. But I do wonder if Cody and The Young Bucks are starting to believe that they are actually draws on their own?

Emperor Smeat 12-06-2017 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon (Post 5055020)
ok thanks for posting. i didn't know what to compare that number to. fuck 3500 is the record? was this Chicago? that seems so low. yeah maybe 10K isn't doable lol

Lakeland, Florida since it was during this year's Mania week. The Chicago Global Wars show owns the non-Mania record.

DAMN iNATOR 12-07-2017 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg (Post 5054996)

I'll allow it.

Helmsphere 12-07-2017 05:38 PM

Free Hat and I'm there.

Helmsphere 12-07-2017 05:48 PM

Also will there be a Brandi Rhodes Bang Blow?

XL 12-07-2017 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5055210)
There's a term in politics when you start believing you can achieve the promises you should never make. I've forgotten what it is. But I do wonder if Cody and The Young Bucks are starting to believe that they are actually draws on their own?

Confabulation?

owenbrown 12-07-2017 06:24 PM

That Blackman post made me think Xero was back

Vastardikai 12-07-2017 09:29 PM

Put Cody against Blackman and they'll do 20k.

Emperor Smeat 12-07-2017 09:39 PM

According to the Observer, Cody and the Young Bucks are currently down to Chicago and Southern California as the host of their attempt at a 10k show. A few other potential locations were dropped due to traveling and cost reasons.

Also recently had a meeting in Dallas regarding potential sponsors to get for this show.

Ol Dirty Dastard 12-08-2017 05:48 PM

What jerks for even trying... Right Noid?

Mr. Nerfect 12-08-2017 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dastardly Dale Newstead (Post 5056065)
What jerks for even trying... Right Noid?

I don't think they're jerks for trying. I think they're jerks for thinking that they're there. Seriously think they might be marks for themselves. Hey, if they do it, I will have to eat my words.

Mr. Nerfect 12-08-2017 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5055739)
Confabulation?

You know what, I think that's it.

Fignuts 12-08-2017 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5056096)
I don't think they're jerks for trying. I think they're jerks for thinking that they're there. Seriously think they might be marks for themselves. Hey, if they do it, I will have to eat my words.

The wrestling business isn't a place for humility. Guys like The Rock and John Cena didn't get to where they are by saying "Gee golly, I don't think we could sell 10,000 seats, fellas!"

It's good that they have that kind of confidence. Shows they have drive, and a commitment to be the best.

Mr. Nerfect 12-11-2017 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5056123)
The wrestling business isn't a place for humility. Guys like The Rock and John Cena didn't get to where they are by saying "Gee golly, I don't think we could sell 10,000 seats, fellas!"

It's good that they have that kind of confidence. Shows they have drive, and a commitment to be the best.

Hahaha, The Rock and John Cena also knew how to be stars in professional wrestling.

OwenHartFan 12-14-2017 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5054490)
Let's talk about this.

If Rhodes could draw 10,000 people, he'd still be in the WWE.

Moron.

Vastardikai 12-14-2017 01:44 PM

Only way Cody, et al draw 10k is if they

A. somehow manage to get Punk to wrestle Cody and put the Bucks against a big up and coming team like the Ugly Ducklings.

Or B. Get a piece of paper and a lot of pencils.

Ol Dirty Dastard 12-14-2017 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5057277)
Hahaha, The Rock and John Cena also knew how to be stars in professional wrestling.

Yeah what pieces of shit those other fucking losers are, right Noid? Such punks, with their 6 figure incomes. What a bunch of failures.

Big Vic 12-14-2017 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 5059014)
Only way Cody, et al draw 10k is if they

A. somehow manage to get Punk to wrestle Cody and put the Bucks against a big up and coming team like the Ugly Ducklings.

Or B. Get a piece of paper and a lot of pencils.

C. live sex celebration with Brandi Rhodes

OwenHartFan 12-14-2017 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5059023)
C. live sex celebration with Brandi Rhodes

What are you like 12 years old?

That shit supposed to be funny?

:|

#BROKEN Hasney 01-09-2018 12:27 PM

I've seen some rumblings that Cody and the Bucks might have Jericho and Rey on board for doing this with them. Does that change anyones views?

Nicky Fives 01-09-2018 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by #BROKEN Hasney (Post 5069677)
I've seen some rumblings that Cody and the Bucks might have Jericho and Rey on board for doing this with them. Does that change anyones views?

Nope. There best bet is to do it the day before a Wrestlemania in a smaller arena in the same city. Otherwise, I see no chance of it happening. Not enough smart fans in one given area, nor will there be enough big names to draw that many to travel miles to get there....

Evil Vito 01-09-2018 12:49 PM

There were probably like 2,000-3,000 people at the show I went to in August that had Cody/Rey headlining and Jericho doing an autograph signing/photo op. The stadium was like an hour and a half outside of Manhattan.

I'd say that's a good start if their plan is to hold the event in a proper wrestling hotbed.

Mr. Nerfect 01-09-2018 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dastardly Dale Newstead (Post 5059020)
Yeah what pieces of shit those other fucking losers are, right Noid? Such punks, with their 6 figure incomes. What a bunch of failures.

I didn't say they were failures. I just said they weren't stars. I don't consider Heath Slater a failure, but I bet more people watch his segments with Rhyno on Raw than see a Young Bucks match.

Fignuts 01-09-2018 07:57 PM

Yeah, but these guys are basically challenging themselves, and thats never a bad thing. Whether you think they can do it or not, you can't deny its got people talking about them. Even if they don't make 10,000 they won't look bad as long as the show is good enough which I'm sure it will be. Hell, if it gets good enough reviews they can use that to promote it next year for another try.

Mr. Nerfect 01-09-2018 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BROKEN Hasney (Post 5069677)
I've seen some rumblings that Cody and the Bucks might have Jericho and Rey on board for doing this with them. Does that change anyones views?

Not really. 34,995 paid for the Tokyo Dome for Jericho's first match outside the WWE in 18 years. Compare this to 26,192 in 2017. That's an increase of 8,803, also factoring in a fantastic year for New Japan, in general, for one of the biggest shows of the wrestling calendar. I think they got something like 25,000 new subscriptions. That's a lot different from travel, tickets, accommodation, etc. Unless they are trying to bring in a local crowd.

I don't think people care as much as they think. I'm sure they can get a few thousand, but Jericho doing special appearances like this is going to lose its luster pretty quick -- the law of diminishing returns, etc. Rey is a legend too, but it's not like he was packing out 10,000 for WCPW or whatever.

They're looking at Chicago. I imagine they will try to get Punk. Even so, I am actually skeptical. I wouldn't be shocked if they achieved it, but how much is CM Punk wrestling on his own really worth? And then is it really Cody and The Bucks drawing that crowd? They can probably make a profit if they manage to get it on a subscription network and people sign up to see the Punk return.

#1-norm-fan 01-09-2018 08:05 PM

If they get Punk in Chicago, they should get the 10,000.

Mr. Nerfect 01-09-2018 08:08 PM

It seems more likely. I wouldn't be shocked if that happens. It wouldn't surprise me if they get to 8,500 though. "Should" is the right word, but I don't think it's a given.

Emperor Smeat 01-09-2018 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5069789)
Yeah, but these guys are basically challenging themselves, and thats never a bad thing. Whether you think they can do it or not, you can't deny its got people talking about them. Even if they don't make 10,000 they won't look bad as long as the show is good enough which I'm sure it will be. Hell, if it gets good enough reviews they can use that to promote it next year for another try.

Yeah depending on costs, can legit see them try again next year if they get close to 10k. The extra time for planning and lessons learned would be huge advantages for the potential next show.

If it ends up as a big bust, just means only WWE is strong enough to generate those types of numbers and Mania week is the best time to try another attempt.

Destor 01-10-2018 09:34 AM

If you need wrestlemania to draw your crowd then, and this might blow your mind, you didnt draw the crowd.

Jordan 01-10-2018 11:22 AM

I thought Cody and The Buck were supposed to draw 10,000 not CM Punk?

#BROKEN Hasney 01-10-2018 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fragile X (Post 5070029)
I thought Cody and The Buck were supposed to draw 10,000 not CM Punk?

I mean, they would be drawing it as they're setting up the show.

Destor 01-10-2018 01:13 PM

Promoting =/= drawing

Destor 01-10-2018 01:13 PM

But I would still give them the feather in the cap if they pull it off

Evil Vito 01-10-2018 01:53 PM

Apparently they're doing this on September 1st, which is directly up against night 2 of PWG BOLA, Chikara's King of Trios, and a bunch of other non-wrestling events going on that weekend.

I know it's a holiday weekend and such but that feels like a poor choice of date if you're trying to maximize turnout.

Destor 01-10-2018 02:07 PM

BOLA is in CA and Trios is in PA


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