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Seanny One Ball 04-10-2020 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5335229)
TBF, it’s hard to say that Gunn went in there to box, he wasn’t in there long enough for us to know for certain.


He absolutely went in there to box. Watch the way he's standing and look at his hands.
He ain't shooting for takedowns and he isn't rushing in looking for a wild knockout.

Sepholio 04-10-2020 03:01 AM

Yeah he tried to straight square up with Butterbean. Really shouldn't have done that considering the size difference and the notorious punching power of Bean. He was doomed from the start.

owenbrown 04-10-2020 07:00 PM

What actually could have been though if Dr. Death didn't tear his hamstring and won the whole thing? :-\

owenbrown 04-10-2020 07:00 PM

also did they actually lose out on supposedly $5 million as Cornette said?

drave 04-10-2020 07:07 PM

Assuming 5 mill is what they were paying for Williams's deal and then he effectively couldn't fulfill it - yes, they lost it.

xrodmuc316 04-10-2020 07:37 PM

There is no way Vince gave him a $5 million deal in 1998. I am sure Cornette was referring to potential revenue, but that's not really the same as losing the money.

Bad News Gertner 04-10-2020 09:15 PM

He's talking about the money they could have drawn with a Dr. Death vs Austin feud

XL 04-11-2020 05:15 AM

Do you think Dr Death/Austin would have drawn?

Ol Dirty Dastard 04-11-2020 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5335692)
Do you think Dr Death/Austin would have drawn?

not a hope in hell. Dr. Death didn't have a WWF vibe IMO. He was too boring and the crowd wouldn't have responded. Even if he won brawl for all, he'd have languished in midcard hell.

Seanny One Ball 04-11-2020 08:18 AM

The Miracle Violence Connection would have gotten over in the early 90's.

What a name for a tag team.

Bad News Gertner 04-11-2020 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5335692)
Do you think Dr Death/Austin would have drawn?

Anything with Austin would have at that point, but it would be a 1-2 ppv match feud .

Probably would have hooked up with Vince.

ozzman6669 04-11-2020 04:11 PM

Just watched them all, the Moolah one is really weird, spent the whole episode saying how bad she was, then in the last 2 minutes you got 6 girls saying nothing happened then a girl who spent the whole time saying how bad she was end the episode saying Moolah was great and if you say Moolah was a pimp it means she was a prostitute.

Supreme Olajuwon 04-11-2020 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman King Gertner (Post 5335703)
Anything with Austin would have at that point, but it would be a 1-2 ppv match feud .

Probably would have hooked up with Vince.

Man I remember when they teased Austin/Ahmed Johnson and I was hyped as fuck. Austin could’ve made anything work back then.

XL 04-11-2020 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman King Gertner (Post 5335703)
Anything with Austin would have at that point, but it would be a 1-2 ppv match feud .

Probably would have hooked up with Vince.

Where do you think the feud would have sat in the chronology/what did they do instead?

Bad News Gertner 04-11-2020 07:14 PM

The B4A ended in Aug 1998. The Sept PPV was Austin vs Kane vs Taker for the title and a number 1 contender 3 way cage match between Shamrock vs Rock vs Mankind . You could have put Williams fresh off a B4A win into the 3 way and make it a 4 way(scrap the cage match). Have Williams win the match and face Austin at the Oct PPV Judgement Day ending in some sort of screwy finish causing the title to be held up till the tournament at SS

Bad News Gertner 04-11-2020 07:18 PM

Then you could have Vince enter Williams in the field as his hired assassin who's only focus of to make sure Austin doesn't win the title kinda like Andre and Hogan in WM4. Maybe they both get dq'd or Austin gets DQ for using a chair

Williams faces Austin at the Dec PPV Rock Bottom and Austin wins ending the feud.

Then you do the same shit they did at the 99 Rumble or whatever

Bad News Gertner 04-11-2020 07:19 PM

Hire me now Vince

xrodmuc316 04-11-2020 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman King Gertner (Post 5335808)
Then you could have Vince enter Williams in the field as his hired assassin who's only focus of to make sure Austin doesn't win the title kinda like Andre and Hogan in WM4. Maybe they both get dq'd or Austin gets DQ for using a chair

Williams faces Austin at the Dec PPV Rock Bottom and Austin wins ending the feud.

Then you do the same shit they did at the 99 Rumble or whatever

That's the only spot that makes sense. Wonder if maybe he would have had the role Bossman got within the corporation.

There is no way they were going to backseat The Rock or the Undertaker for him.

Mr. Nerfect 04-12-2020 05:58 AM

The Bossman role for Dr. Death sounds about right.

Bad News Gertner 04-14-2020 04:08 PM

Soooooo looking forward to tonights episode

Bad News Gertner 04-14-2020 10:04 PM

Lol holy shit, Tonga Kid

Bad News Gertner 04-14-2020 10:06 PM

Don Muraco :heart:

Bad News Gertner 04-14-2020 10:14 PM

Awesome episode so far.

Bad News Gertner 04-14-2020 10:35 PM

Oh wow, Snuka's widow

Bad News Gertner 04-14-2020 10:53 PM

HOLY SHIT WHAT AN EPISODE!

Droford 04-14-2020 11:08 PM

Mine didnt record and I gotta wait for the replay later

Bad News Gertner 04-14-2020 11:44 PM


Bad News Gertner 04-14-2020 11:45 PM

These tend to get pulled down so I'll post a few.

Droford 04-15-2020 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceman King Gertner (Post 5337027)
Oh wow, Snuka's ex-wife.

I'm having a hard time picturing him married to her

Damian Rey 2.0 04-15-2020 03:58 AM

Watching it now. Is his widow basically admitting he did it? It certainly sounds like it.

Seanny One Ball 04-15-2020 09:09 AM

Snuka's wife spent the whole episode deflecting or dancing around making any definitive statements, the ex cop looked shadier than a pawn shop cashier and Sam Fatu cheerfully accidentally drops a huge clanger that casts even greater doubt on Snuka.

Maybe the best put together episode since Brody or the Von Erichs because it effectively puts it all on a platter for you. Reading about these things makes it hard to form an accurate image, these episodes give you a good view.

New Jack still the funniest though, likely always will be.

Big Vic 04-15-2020 09:18 AM

Yeah they asked Fatu the right way so he wouldn't have his guard up on the question.

Seanny One Ball 04-15-2020 09:20 AM

They way they showed him zimmer off afterwards was classic.

He knew what he had done.

Bad News Gertner 04-15-2020 12:16 PM

Dino Bravo episode next week. That should be an awesome episode as well.

Supreme Olajuwon 04-15-2020 02:19 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sometimes you can just look in someones eyes and can tell if they're telling the truth or not....if only they would look in your eye... <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DarkSideOfTheRing?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DarkSideOfTheRing</a> <a href="https://t.co/1q0ABJaCI7">pic.twitter.com/1q0ABJaCI7</a></p>&mdash; Matt Koon (@mattkoonmusic) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattkoonmusic/status/1250385526613475328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


This lying sack of shit. Oh man what an episode.

Seanny One Ball 04-15-2020 03:13 PM

The part where the interviewer mentioned about Fatu saying he had been in the car was just perfect TV.
He guessed it just as he was saying it, then in a split second you can see sheer panic in his face.

That man is a practiced liar but he didn't see that coming at all.

Bad News Gertner 04-15-2020 06:08 PM

It seems like interest dropped off greatly after the Benoit episode which is a shame. The few sites I frequent had hardly any comments on this one.

Dino Bravo and then Dr. D David Schultz. Fuck man. Such interesting stories.

Ol Dirty Dastard 04-15-2020 07:42 PM

The Snuka story is just so fucked. Benoit did what he did, but he killed himself and would have been caught if he stayed alive. Some semblance of justice was served. Or at least the loop was closed, so to speak.

But Snuka got to just go and wrestle and do a bunch of crack until he died. No justice.

ozzman6669 04-15-2020 08:53 PM

Got one question about Vince role in this, they almost didn't talk about him except that maybe he was at the police station after. I'm not questioning if Vince would want to get involved but did he had enough money to buy murder charge in 83 ?

Bad News Gertner 04-15-2020 09:01 PM

Snuka was arguably the hottest wrestler in the world in a feud that was the hottest feud in the history of the company next to maybe Bruno vs Larry. Vince would have emptied his pockets.

But he didn't really have to. The town made a lot of money off Vince and his wrestlers over the years. It was in both parties best interest to sweep this under the rug


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