lol, they forgot the $ in epi$ode.

And yea, if they do something as dumb as Aerith living.... then yea. That would be a pretty big fuck up.

Also, despite knowing the ending, I just don't buy the requirement of having a multi-part game for something like this. I get TellTale's thing, but I'm just NotAFan.

The multi-part is to get it out earlier and because the budget is so huge and it's easier for people to swallow paying $40 3 times than $120 up front or whatever it will end up costing. It's going to be priced much higher than a normal game when it's all said and done. Basically their options were:

1) Get the game in a timely manner, in one go, but cut out a lot of stuff.
2) Get the game in a timely manner, in one go, complete, but cut production values significantly.
3) Get the game in a timely manner, in various episodes, complete and looking this good.
4) Get the game complete, in one go, and looking this good, but in 2020 if you're lucky and costing over $100 (in which case you might as well wait for them to release all the episodes and buy the inevitable bundle).

It doesn't have to be episodic, if they just do it in one go. Patience is something that the industry (due to consumers) have forgotten.

See: 2014-2015 broken releases.

There is no need to make people pay for it more than once, other than marketing. I refuse to believe that they cannot "fit everything in" with technology more advanced than when the game was created.

I get that requirements for "pretty" games are higher now, but c'mon.

1) Refuse to believe that
2) The technology exists to keep it as great as it is now. Early demos have a history of being "framed" to look better than actual final results anyway.
3) See point 2 and "patience"
4) No reason to charge higher for it, it is a single game. Regardless, peopel will pay for it sure.


What if they do episodic releases and then announce DLC? The initial plan just reeks of going THAT direction.

It's not about fitting it, of course it can through multiple discs and digital downloads. The issue is how much it costs.

Back when FF7 came out, it cost $45 million (67 million with 2015 inflation) to make and that's just development excluding the marketing budget. If they're not going to cut anything or reduce the production level (it is likely to look as good as that, play the XV demo and you should see it there too), it's going to cost a magnitude higher to make. You're looking at least GTA V level budget and as big as FF7 was, it'll never touch that number of sales, especially with the state of the Japanese video game market with how mobile has taken over there.

The cost is the reason that 10 and 13 were corridor based games and cut the open maps and vibrant towns, they just didn't have the budget to do things like that in HD. IF they do this right (and that's a big IF) with an open world map, all the varied enemies, chocobo breeding, golden saucer and airship/submarine, then it's worth it and probably required to make a profit.

I'm still totally open to modern square fucking this up, I just don't think this is the reason for it.

I'll give them developmental costs, sure.

I think it'll sell a helluva lot more than what is predicted.

Square Enix hired another studio called CyberConnect2 to help them out with the development of this remake. The studio has helped and worked on FF series games in the past but nothing this large ever before.

http://www.destructoid.com/final-fan...2-324939.phtml

I will wait until the episodes are all out to play it. I've waited this long for an ff7 remake. Whats a few more years?

The window for them to do this was on PS3. I would have shit my pants for this then, but now I don't care

You're largely in the minority then

I dunno, I think there are a lot of people who gave up on Final Fantasy years ago, due to every release being more disappointing then the last. Now the remake comes out, but at this point, they aren't that interested.

I would probably have been one of them, if my interest hadn't been held by playing the nes and snes games over again in recent years.

Fignuts is right. I have 0 interest in purchasing any final fantasy game anymore. We may be in the minority but it is a large minority.

Every person I know who has ever had a passing interest in a Final Fantasy game (even if they barely play them anymore) is still wildly excited about this. But whatevs

Nah, it's actually not the minority for Final Fantasy as a whole. They took a huge shit on Final Fantasy for an entire generation with XIII and realistically, it's up to XV to bring it back to prominence.

VII will probably do a lot more than any of the XIII games (and probably say the first chapter or whatever will outsell all of XIII combined), but it won't do the 10 million of the original.

Looks like an abortion with none of the charm or feel of the original, allowing Square to cash in on the old fans who buy it out of nostalgia and new fans whose first FF games were X and XIII.

How does it work nowadays with voiceovers? Can you still rename characters? Being forced to see/hear "Aerith" instead of "Aeris" would be hellish.

Would sound like everyone has a lisp.

Everyone will be much better off if you stop asking "will you still be able to" questions (which pretty much are the reason anyone wants to play an FF7 remake) and just realize that they're not trying to appease your nostalgia but instead make pretty much a new game entirely

They'll heavily overdo a couple of moments (like the "Aerith" death) but don't get your hopes up if you're expecting the materia system to come back

The trailer shows a couple parts where Cloud is running down a street and he comes to an intersection, I think that is deliberately to show that the game won't be one giant hallway but instead will let you make choices like left or right... idk, the fact that they put that in the trailer worries me, seems like it is deceiving

Battle menu also has attack/magic/summon/item/defend... gets my hopes up also, but really should not expect what i want it to be

I think the materia system will exist in some form, if heavily modified. It's alot more ingrained in the story than a lot of otjer ff systems.

Why would they change it? Supposed to be the same game but with new graphics, right?

Can I keep Aris this time? She was a beast before she died (which pretty much signaled that she was gonna die)

Pretty sure there would be riots.

So, for combat in the interviews:

Another point had them mentioning that strategy in the original involved the materia system, so they may still use it.

I always thought she was a bit shit unless you had for some reason totally neglected Restore + All materia while simultaneously going out of your way to obtain her Limit Manual & grinding her Breaks to LV4.

"By using the new system, we want to do action battles while also being able to fight while thinking strategically."

This is the same thing they said for Final Fantasy XIII

There never was much strategy in Final Fantasy VII battles IMO, save for a few bosses/enemies, so I don't even think "thinking strategically" should be their focus. Actually, in any game where you have to "think strategically" for each battle, the battles should heavily be the focus of the game, like Final Fantasy Tactics or Resonance of Fate (the first example being a game that did it right, the second a game that did it wrong). People aren't playing FF7 Remake for the battles.

The random battles in FF7 were fun though and random battles are in general, but anything "live action" in a JRPG is really boring to me.

.............................NO I didn't do that...:shifty:

I was a child ok and wasn't clear on how the materia system worked I only knew they all had limit breaks and I wanted them!

(yes I've played it since then and been wiser.)
but even so if she is used right she can be a beast.

According to Famitsu, the first part is scenario complete so hopefully they let us know soon how much of the game is in that part.

Kingdom Heart team is currently helping out the Remake team for the game or at least the first part planned.

http://www.destructoid.com/final-fan...m-326910.phtml

Other stuff from Famitsu

They want add delver further into Biggs, Wedge, and Jessie.

They have an idea about the number of installments that will be released, but they’re not at the stage where they can say anything.

They’re not talking about online right now.

The scenario of the first part up until its ending is already complete.

They’re getting technological assistance from the Kingdom Hearts team with Unreal Engine 4, since they’ve been using it with Kingdom Hearts III.

Cloud’s hallucination scenes will be more meaningful.

As for the cast, they’re continuing plans with the voice actors from Advent Children, but there are some that still haven’t been offered yet. Red XIII only made a cameo appearance, so his voice is likely to be changed.

Separate from Limit Breaks, there is another unique system. They can’t show it yet, but the it’ll be different depending on the player’s fighting style.

Nothing has been decided about guarding yet.

Wonder if they'll get Mena Suvari for Aerith. Lots of people complained about her, but I thought she was fine. Dunno how you can judge on like two lines alone, anyhow.

This installment business is completely ridiculous. Soon it will be like Arcade games with *insert more money to continue game* every 15 minutes. Sequels and expansions are fine, but splitting up a game on purpose to make more money is just being terrible people.

Well we don't know until it comes out. If the first installment is the size of a full game, and worth the price tag, then I'm all for it. Love the world and characters of ff7, and if they can expand on that by making it a multi game deal, then fine.

If not, then you can crucify them and write angry letters, but I think it's better to take a wait and see approach for now.

Fuck yea, new screenshots from the 2nd installment. Should give a good idea where 1 ends and 2 starts:

Demo is out. I pkayed it twice. Once on normal and once on classic (which is locked to easy.) I def prefer classic but its so easy its impossible to tell if its good. Very not sold on this. Why they wouldnt put both modes in both difficulties (and if theres a hard why isnt it included) is beyond me.


Also wish classic auto paused when ATB filled.


Anyhow gorgous game. Cancelled my pre-order though. I need more info.

WHERE IS SEPH WE MUST CHAT

Lol @ this post btw

Deleting games off the PS4 to make rooooom

Demo currently downloading. I'll probably fire it up after work tomorrow and see how this rolls.

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