NWA Revival Thread
 

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I will be watching tomorrow, anyone else?

I thought that was going to start last week I was looking for it all over youtube

6:05 (the MOTHERSHIP) tonight.

I really liked that video. I feel like those face to camera promo's old school style will be really cool to watch. I never saw much of Eli Drake but what I have seen, the dude is a great promo. James Storm is also a great promo and as you can see in that video, is gonna be doing that old school thang. I'm not expecting dives and springboards but hopefully some realistic wrestling with the older heavyweight guys like Mr. Anderson, James Storm and Tim Storm (no relation). And also some good athletic stuff that isn't exactly what we are getting from NXT or AEW. I guess just more old school style. I wonder what channel this could end up on?

Love the way the set looks

Tuesday nights will be set 6.05 watch nwa then go to impact at 8. it looked like Sandow is back and marty bell looked good.

Impact lol never impact.

Everything looks cool. I'll check it out and it'll be a good lead in to Impact on Tuesdays. Like that it's on YouTube.

when it goes to new eps ill definitely be watching

I’m going to watch. A nice, tight one-hour show with Cornette on commentary. Yes, please.

Glad to see David Lasagna back in action. Also Corbin looks a lot like Norm when he wears a hat.

He has those same basset hound eyes Norm has developed over recent years.

First episode about to go on Youtube right now!

OKAY, that opening was great.

well that was a good show

Solid show. Reminds me of a better MLW restart to be honest.

FUCK, I FORGOT. Starting now! Everyone rewind!

I want this to be a serious version of Southpaw Regional Wrestling. But I know that’s a lot to ask.

Oh, this opening is fucking fantastic.

Did you get to the Austin Idol commercial :lol::rofl:

I’m not a huge Nick Aldis fan. Good promo though.

Interviewer reminds me of Chris Parks.

Oh God, is this a jobber match? YES!

Instantly invested in The Dawson’s because they just wrestled a match that didn’t take them 20 minutes to win. GOOD CONCEPT!

Just did. I was joking. But somehow they did it and it was glorious.

Eli Drake is just born for this. I’m sorry, Noid. You’re wrong. Guy’s got swagger.

He totally does. I think that Aldis and Drake will be a great long term rivalry for NWA.

He did the annoying “Yeah! Yeah!” stuff and he was far from the best thing on the show, but he was tolerable here.

Great show. Don’t even really have specific feedback. I just enjoyed it. Oh, Eddie Kingston can fucking talk, can’t he? I like the emphasis on styles.

Loved Jocephus at first but his body language when actually confronted by James Storm kinda threw me off.

I came away instantly thinking of him as the guy who needs to take the title off Aldis. Which is weird because I never thought of him as a face. But he came off as “the guy”.

He didn’t really do it for me. Something about him does seem put on, but I kind of like that seems to be his gimmick. Him being “embarrassed” will probably make him dangerous.

Oh, that fucking Austin Idol commercial was glorious.

Brian Hebner as a referee is good. Like that they got a billing in the credits.

Loving these matches so far. Actual long-term storytelling as opposed to everyone trying to look like a main eventer.

Oh. So apparently Jocephus isn’t supposed to be taken seriously. Good.

I’m enjoying the promos too. They’re not spectacular, but they say what they want to say.

There only seemed to be 10k people watching, but there are only 25k watching AEW Dark. I expected a bigger gulf than that, just because of where NWA is and the scale of production. Good for NWA.

47k on Facebook. That’s not bad.

They’re genuine. Which is good. Some guys are shit at it and some are great. Better than leaving it to writers though. I kinda like Nick Aldis all of a sudden. And Tim Storm just made a cheesy sympathy appeal by talking about “Mama Storm” and it fucking worked. In 2019. Fucking love this show. Lol

I’m seeing 22k viewers on YouTube.

They really nailed the spirit of an NWA studio show.

I’ve got 27k on YouTube and 47k on Facebook. It is a debut, but 74k is pretty solid, especially since it just aired.

Not just with the look/setup of the studio but the booking and the way the show is run. You can just tell Billy Corgan is one of us old school wrestling fans who happens to have a shitload of money and decided he wants to bring back his childhood.

Tim Storm is not exactly fluid in the ring, but I liked him.

Meh. He’s like 55. He’s got a role. Not gonna judge him too harshly. Match is fine.

I didn’t grow up with studio wrestling, so it’s not even really the nostalgia that’s getting me. It’s just the authenticity of the presentation. The wrestlers exist in time and space. There’s the right energy. The audience is right there with it, but it’s not about jamming as many into a space as possible. The on-air talent is great too. Obviously Cornette is excellent, but I liked the other commentator and thought the interviewer sold stuff well.

Yeah, I think him being stiff works for him. You’d expect it, lol.

I’ve seen Caleb Konley before, and he struck me as “indy.” He knew his role here. I like that tjere’s a wrestling show where everyone is on board to give things tiers and put on an overall product that isn’t just about jamming everything you can in.

Aldis giving respect but still reminding everyone he’s a heel. Beautiful.

Literally nothing wrong with that show unless you expect every wrestling match to have the goal of being a 6 star match. That was perfect.

Loved the ending. Awkward, but in a good way.

I’m looking forward to what Ken Anderson and Aaron Stevens do in this environment. Seriously. Both got really exposed through TNA, but here they are going to have a focus that is based around logical wrestling. Both have shown talent and potential star power before. Will be interesting to see which guys show up and what their respective gimmicks are.

The rumors are that he is going back to WWE, but John Morrison would be fucking excellent in this environment.

Just watched it, because why not.....

I enjoyed it... really liked that it actually felt "different". AEW feels like "more of the same but with different people", but this genuinely feels like something "different".

I think if they unleash some cocaine on their roster so we can get some good old cocaine-fueled promos, they could have something great on their hands.

I started to watch AEW Dark after this. Big mistake, lol. Although it is funny hearing JR bury people. He’s the master at it.

Skipping through, the best lines I caught were “there’s a lot of parity in this tag team division” and comparing Penelope Ford to The Great Muta.

I’m glad I’m not the only one that feels that way about AEW.

This is what I thought. I was half expecting to see "paid impersonator" somewhere like the Ric Flair/KFC commericials.

Speaking of, something about that guy rings a bell, but I can't think of why. Wasn't he in some semi-popular tag team? I seriously can't remember why he just seemed so familliar to me.

Between YouTube and Facebook the show is now over 100k views. It’s actually beating AEW Dark which is only on YouTube, which is pretty cool.

He’s been around for years. He was in a faction in EVOLVE, I think.

But instead they found the money to pay the real Austin Idol.

Wasn’t he managing Nick Aldis recently?

Yeah. As much as I liked their debut, the parity is gonna be a problem. There’s gonna be a 7 team tournament to decide the first tag champs and every match is gonna be “close”. Because every match seems to have to be “close”. And that’s a fucking terrible idea.

He was briefly after Aldis won the title. But Aldis doesn’t seem to need him. He should manage someone though. If all we get are commercials pushing his wrestling school though, that’s cool too.

Critique of this show like I did with the others:

Comparing this to AEW Dark is a tad unfair. I will say is that I actually rather like how the landscape is shaping up now. There is different product for different types of audiences instead of simply WWE and WWE Lite... and nobody has to hold out hope for WWE stepping up their game, because they clearly have no interest in doing so.

As for Power itself, I wasn't sure I would dig the set as much as I do. Those leaked photos made it look a lot worse than it actually came off in airing. It is just retro enough without coming off as "cheap". Speaking of cheap, I still can't get into Knockoff Miavia. Good for him and his career for getting involved with this, I guess, but eh. Everyone else is fine. Yes, even Tim Storm.

I just hope they don't go overboard with all the "we're men being men and fighting like men because that's what men do" rhetoric. I get it, but going too far with that makes it just as hokey as what you're trying to avoid being compared to, and it was dangerously close with just this first chunk of what's already in the can.

Really interesting... "Retro" feel is really cool... love that

Also really like the promos obviously just being the guys going out and cutting their own promos rather than WWE's abysmal scripted promos

I found the studio cameras w/box lenses "weird"..... like.... you don't need to zoom in that far, dudes....... I guess whatever studio they are using just has those cameras, though.... prob don't have "regular" lenses for those cameras.....

Might check this out tomorrow before AEW

I failed to mention the theme song, which just oozes 80s nostalgia as well. The only thing missing was someone rocking a Ribera jacket.

A few of the shots during promos were out of focus, focusing on the background... "smh" at that!!!

I thought it hit the perfect spot of triggering nostalgia but not feeling too dated. Really good middle ground.

That was awesome, I used to love those studio shows WCW used to run.

Also, damn if that is not the best intro theme song for a wrestling show ever!!

Well it’s also not a huge investment. They film bi-monthly in a studio and air on YouTube.

But seriously, matches like this not being possible on a grand stage anymore are one of the biggest flaws in wrestling.

Saw the debut episode and agree with others here on it having a pretty unique and old school style feel to it compared to WWE, AEW, and other notable promotions.

Was decent to good overall. Not something I'd watch regularly but more in the MLW or AAA tier where I might catch a show here or there on occasion.

I liked that a lot

IIRC Caleb Konley was the focus of a wrestling documentary on MTV that ended w/ him wrestling his idol Jeff Hardy.

I disagree.

A lot of matches in AEW will be 'competitive' not close, which is a very New Japan thing. People lose matches in New Japan but still come out looking strong bc it comes off as more competitive and that they lost today bc the other wrestler was 'the better man'...this time.

I skimmed through the first episode and enjoyed the throwback format. I don't know how sustainable it is. Always glad to see an alternative.

isn't he the one dating rosemary and on allies youtube show.

I think the quote from Aldis said it best: "From punchline to headline".

Remember how, when Corgan made the NWA purchase, folks were like "LOL, well what did he really buy?!?" He bought seeds to actually grow something. Granted, the world took a giant left turn near about the same time with the fame of certain Bullet Club members and ended up opening up a whole new timeline leading to AEW, but this was likely something in the works from day one. A passion project from Billy that isn't rushed or falsified for fucked with. I think it will fit in just fine with part two of the current wrestling renaissance (part one was the Euro scene before WWE pretty much fucked that up).

I hope I keep at this. I wanted to get really into MLW too, but just...didn’t. Liked the presentation and everything.

I feel you. I so badly wanted to be an MLW mark but the lack of consistency and certain roster choices have made me care less and less. IDK there is just something about MLW that doesn't "feel right". Where as NWA on episode one had so much more going for it. The nostalgia, huge aspect of that. The production was d o p e, from the entrance video to the in-between screen edits... commentary all of that. Promo's are better too.

I go back to MLW from time to time but haven't finished a full show with my full attention on it since probably April.

Actually I think that with AEW, NWA, and Impact someone is going to get "forced out" and I'm looking at ROH or MLW. I don't know if either are in a "bad way" financially, but I can't imagine ROH isn't on a finanical lifeline with Sinclair. I can see MLW doing okay because they can draw a crowd and sell merch and have a tv deal that pays them.

Over 120k watched on Yotube and 70k on Facebook. That is over double what MLW shows do.

If it’s always “this time” though, then what’s the point? If everyone is main event level then there isn’t really a main event. You need midcarders for there to be main eventers, lower carders for there to be midcarders, etc.

Let's give it a few weeks. I see the point you are trying to make but AEW is "giving the guys a chance" in these early shows. You have to to build the records. After a few weeks and the records are more developed, we will see a more defined top middle and undercard.

Really good hour of wrestling.

I enjoyed that hour, because I wanted to believe what they were doing. The Ten Pounds of Gold felt like it mattered, and that's something you don't get much in WWE. It was the focus of the show, as well it should be.

Eli Drake needs to find his own voice (and not the Rock's), but he feels like a star. Wild Card's bit with Kingston and Homicide felt like an interesting program start and then there's the wild swing to Jocephus and James Storm brawling. And they put exactly the amount of people in that they needed to. No extraneous talent, no getting all your shit in, and most amazingly, NO DIVES! There was some outside in moves, but no one went to the floor. And no one needed to.

And one more thing...

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I liked this show a hell of a lot more than I thought I would going in. Something about it just feels right.

According to TheWrap, around 22% of the total watch time for NWA's new show on Youtube came from people who also watched the debut episode of AEW Dark.

Pretty much means NWA is a very nice lead-in to AEW's Dark show and there is a sizable cross-over between both audiences on Youtube.

I would really like to know who is the target as far as TV networks? If MLW is getting enough money to sign workers to legit contacts from the really low level BeINsports then I wonder who would throw some money for the NWA to keep doing what they did at the first tapings? Viceland? They love wrestling there. That would be my pick.

Actually, that really should be the deal they go for. Corgan the music, Viceland the music... it would be a relationship I could see making a lot of sense. Viceland has a it's of demo of viewer that would probably be into this Powerrr product.

Maybe a low tier network like POP TV since the market for wrestling is still pretty weak unless you have great connections in the tv industry.

NWA tried shopping around this show to networks beforehand but got no real buyers which is why its stuck on Youtube.

Hmm, MLW seems to be doing fine, but there are sometimes reports that things are "tight." Sinclair can keep ROH alive for as long as they want to, but maybe they won't want to? I've had a feeling that it could get sold for some time now. I just don't know how TNA keeps surviving.

I liked what I watched in MLW, but it just feels a little "inconsequential." What NWA Power did, either intentionally or just subconsciously, was make their little corner feel important and worth being invested in.

MLW had guys I really liked -- Jacob Fatu is a fucking star, baby. But it made me think "I want to see those guys somewhere else."

I want another billionaire to come along and unify the MLW, Impact and ROH rosters and have a serious rasslin' alternative to WWE. To me, AEW is the sports entertainment one with some good pro-wrestling mixed in on top.

Yeah, I don't mind things being competitive some of the time, but I feel that everyone at every level gets exposed. I'd like someone going long to mean something again. I mean, you should really earn that privilege when you get to a level where people know you can do it.

I don't really care if guys plan out their matches and high spots and all that, but I've got this personal opinion, based on nothing professional obviously, that you should be able to call a match as a long as you can plan one. The only people who should be going twenty minutes are the sorts of guys who can go out there and work twenty minutes from scratch. There are too many guys who would get lost doing rehearsed shit and it takes the "art" out of it for me. And it does a lot of crowds too, because you can feel them getting burnt out, and it's because these are set pieces not wrestling matches.

I remember actually paying money for an EVOLVE show to give them a chance a few years back. I stopped watching and never went back. That's equivalent to a walk-out. I just...couldn't. The first three matches just had guys going back and forth and kicking out of everything. It all felt the same and nothing counted. It gets so fucking exhausting and there's no drama.

I know this is a pretentious rant, lol. It just seems obvious to me that everyone gets to see way too much of everyone's shit and that everything is the same. It could be a real shortcut to getting people over if matches went shorter, had a much more logical and reserved psychology, and the "cool shit" gets busted out for emphasis a lot more rarely.

Viceland seem to trust Cornette, and he's obviously got the ear of Corgan too. It's possible that BeIN might be interested in them too, or AXS or even Sinclair. But there were also rumors that Showtime was looking for "artsy" wrestling when they were in talks with AEW. This may not be aesthetically what they're after, but it might be worth a preliminary chat.

Corgan's got a pretty weird rep, doesn't he? Viacom are an entity that I can always imagine being interested in wrestling/music/a connection between the two. They've got Bellator. Maybe they give them a chance as long as Dixie Carter and/or Russo aren't involved.

Don't forget, we got NWA Power live at 6:05! on Youtube.

Recap of last week built EMOTION. Getting into it again with this bad ass opening video.