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M-A-G 08-30-2022 08:03 AM

Rate the Game: Week 125 ***THE EPIC CONCLUSION!!! (MAYBE???)***
 
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<select><option selected="">Rate the Game Results

<option>1. Super Mario World (4.81)
<option>2. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (4.8)</option>
<option>3. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (4.8)</option>
<option>4. Hitman: Codename 47 (4.75)</option>
<option>5. Mass Effect (4.75)</option>
<option>6. Goldeneye 007 (4.72)</option>
<option>7. Super Mario Bros. 3 (4.7)</option>
<option>8. Silent Hill 2 (4.66)</option>
<option>9. Portal (4.5)</option>
<option>10. Red Dead Redemption (4.5)</option>
<option>11. Chrono Trigger (4.5)</option>
<option>12. Final Fantasy 3 (4.5)</option>
<option>13. Silent Hill 3 (4.5)</option>
<option>14. Mega Man 2 (4.44)</option>
<option>15. Donkey Kong Country (4.44)</option>
<option>16. Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars (4.44)</option>
<option>17. Super Mario Bros. (4.41)</option>
<option>18. God of War (4.4)</option>
<option>19. Mega Man X (4.36)</option>
<option>20. Metal Gear Solid (4.33)</option>
<option>21. BioShock (4.33)</option>
<option>22. Perfect Dark (4.3)</option>
<option>23. Shadow of the Colossus (4.28)</option>
<option>24. The Last of Us (4.28)</option>
<option>25. Super Street Fighter 2 (4.15)</option>
<option>26. Sonic the Hedgehog (4.14)</option>
<option>27. Resident Evil 2 (4.14)</option>
<option>28. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (4.125)</option>
<option>29. Super Mario 64 (4.07)</option>
<option>30. Grand Theft Auto 3 (4.06)</option>
<option>31. The Legend of Zelda (4.06)</option>
<option>32. NBA Jam (4.05)</option>
<option>33. Super Mario Kart (4.0)</option>
<option>34. Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (4.0)</option>
<option>35. Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 (4.0)</option>
<option>36. Super Smash Bros. (4.0)</option>
<option>37. Super Metroid (4.0)</option>
<option>38. The Simpsons (4.0)</option>
<option>39. Resident Evil 4 (4.0)</option>
<option>40. EarthBound (4.0)</option>
<option>41. Fallout 3 (4.0)</option>
<option>42. Mirror's Edge (4.0)</option>
<option>43. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (4.0)</option>
<option>44. Donkey Kong Country 2 (4.0)</option>
<option>45. Banjo-Kazooie (4.0)</option>
<option>46. Final Fantasy 7 (3.94)</option>
<option>47. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Turtles in Time (3.92)</option>
<option>48. Mega Man (3.89)</option>
<option>49. Castlevania (3.86)</option>
<option>50. Contra (3.86)</option>
<option>51. Devil May Cry (3.86)</option>
<option>52. Half-Life 2 (3.85)</option>
<option>53. Half-Life (3.83)
<option>54. Infamous (3.83)</option>
<option>55. SimCity 2000 (3.8)</option>
<option>56. Final Fight (3.8)</option>
<option>57. Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver (3.77)</option>
<option>58. Batman: Arkham Asylum (3.76)</option>
<option>59. Double Dragon (3.75)</option>
<option>60. Max Payne (3.75)</option>
<option>61. Tetris (3.69)</option>
<option>62. Mortal Kombat 2 (3.67)</option>
<option>63. Alan Wake (3.66)</option>
<option>64. Diablo (3.66)</option>
<option>65. F.E.A.R. (3.66)</option>
<option>66. Mortal Kombat (3.65)</option>
<option>67. Doom (3.625)</option>
<option>68. StarFox (3.61)</option>
<option>69. Resident Evil (3.58)</option>
<option>70. Kirby's Adventure (3.57)</option>
<option>71. Ninja Gaiden (3.5)</option>
<option>72. Burnout Paradise (3.5)</option>
<option>73. Thief: The Dark Project (3.5)</option>
<option>74. Dark Souls (3.5)</option>
<option>75. Shinobi (3.5)</option>
<option>76. Dead Space (3.4)</option>
<option>77. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater (3.39)</option>
<option>78. Resident Evil: Nemesis (3.38)</option>
<option>79. Crash Bandicoot (3.33)</option>
<option>80. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (3.33)</option>
<option>81. Wolfenstein 3D (3.33)</option>
<option>82. Dead Island (3.33)</option>
<option>83. Left 4 Dead (3.33)</option>
<option>84. Nights Into Dreams (3.33)</option>
<option>85. Condemned: Criminal Origins (3.33)</option>
<option>86. Gauntlet Legends (3.28)
<option>87. Gears of War (3.27)</option>
<option>88. Borderlands (3.22)</option>
<option>89. Uncharted: Drake's Fortune (3.22)</option>
<option>90. Duke Nukem 3D (3.2)</option>
<option>91. Darkstalkers (3.2)</option>
<option>92. Quake (3.2)</option>
<option>93. SoulCalibur (3.16)</option>
<option>94. Pac-Man (3.125)</option>
<option>95. Killer Instinct (3.11)</option>
<option>96. Virtua Fighter (3.09)</option>
<option>97. Rock Band (3.09)</option>
<option>98. Earthworm Jim (3.0)</option>
<option>99. Metroid (3.0)</option>
<option>100. Time Crisis (3.0)</option>
<option>101. Tekken (3.0)</option>
<option>102. Halo 2 (3.0)</option>
<option>103. Destiny (3.0)</option>
<option>104. The Secret of Monkey Island (3.0)</option>
<option>105. Sonic Adventure (3.0)</option>
<option>106. Shenmue (3.0)</option>
<option>107. Guitar Hero (2.875)</option>
<option>108. Ecco the Dolphin (2.85)</option>
<option>109. Streets of Rage (2.84)</option>
<option>110. Altered Beast (2.8)</option>
<option>111. Bayonetta (2.75)</option>
<option>112. Assassin's Creed (2.71)</option>
<option>113. Gauntlet (2.71)</option>
<option>114. Dead Rising (2/71)</option>
<option>115. Saints Row (2.66)</option>
<option>116. The Sims (2.6)</option>
<option>117. Silent Hill (2.6)</option>
<option>118. Tomb Raider (2.55)</option>
<option>119. Halo: Combat Evolved (2.5)</option>
<option>120. Twisted Metal (2.42)</option
<option>121. Crackdown (2.42)</option>
<option>122. Golden Axe (2.33)</option>
<option>123. Gran Turismo (2.3)</option>
<option>124. Ghosts n' Goblins (2.14)</option>
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M-A-G 08-30-2022 08:07 AM

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Oh, right, I almost forgot:

Honorable Mentions:

Marvel vs. Capcom: 5.0 (Fignuts)
American McGee's Alice: 3.0 (M-A-G)

drave 08-30-2022 09:10 AM

The Notorious M-A-G. Thanks man, for taking the time to compile this list, tally votes and track it all. It has brought back many MANY memories and helped with a few games I totally forgot about. Your voice is much deeper than I thought it'd be, I dunno why I thought any of that tbh.



As long as you are doing this, you can count me in as an active participant. This is fun stuff, and I really enjoy talking games with others. Don't have many friends IRL who still play games, or don't even care to discuss them because "adulting". Pfft, fuck that.






Easy 5 for me.


I remember not knowing WTF was going on for the first couple days of playing it. It was so radically different than what we knew as Mario Bros...... but for the better IMO!


Each character having unique strengths and weaknesses, I felt, led to deeper gameplay. Princess Peach would make some levels stupid easy, while Luigi's super jump made others even easier.


Rarely did I ever play as Mario or Toad. I think I played Toad on the 2nd world due to his super fast digging speed.


I've always wanted a sequel in the same style, maybe add a few new characters in the mix from over the years and give them abilities too! It'd be the shit.




Also want a Super Mario RPG sequel damnit! But that's for another thread.

Lock Jaw 08-30-2022 09:12 AM

Ending with something that I HAVE played!

I'll give it a 4, cause I loved the style, the music, and everything. I actually enjoyed playing it more than the original Mario..... not more than Mario 3 or Mario World though....

Lock Jaw 08-30-2022 09:14 AM

I too always wanted a sequel in the same style.... pretty shocked that in all the years since they never made one....

Destor 08-30-2022 09:15 AM

I give ita 5 for the music alone

weather vane 08-30-2022 11:43 AM

Great job.

Easy 5. One of my favourite games.

Big Vic 08-30-2022 11:53 AM

Deserves nothing less than a 4.

I think you should continue the game after a break.

M-A-G 08-30-2022 01:21 PM

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Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the Shy Guys and Snifits the only things from this entry that carried over to other games? I know Mouser and Triclyde were in the cartoon but they never popped up in another game.

DAMN iNATOR 08-30-2022 02:29 PM

3. Too different and didn’t feel like a Mario title. Was basically a different game with Mario thrown into it for Western markets.

drave 08-30-2022 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M-A-G (Post 5574439)
Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the Shy Guys and Snifits the only things from this entry that carried over to other games? I know Mouser and Triclyde were in the cartoon but they never popped up in another game.




Yeah, I believe so. This entry was just so radically different, in all the good ways.

Lock Jaw 08-30-2022 02:50 PM

Some of the concepts like Luigi being a higher/farther jumper and Peach floating have been in other games

Lock Jaw 08-30-2022 02:53 PM

This game actually made Luigi a unique individual.... before he was just a palette swapped Mario. This game made him the taller one with longer jumps

Destor 08-30-2022 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M-A-G (Post 5574439)
Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the Shy Guys and Snifits the only things from this entry that carried over to other games? I know Mouser and Triclyde were in the cartoon but they never popped up in another game.

might be true. I was thinking POW blocks but theyre in the arcade mario bro.s

Big Vic 08-30-2022 04:24 PM

Birdo came over too.

Wart had a cameo appearance in Link's Awakening but that's a totally diff IP.

Big Vic 08-30-2022 04:29 PM

Oh apparently Pokey also debuted in SMB2

M-A-G 08-30-2022 05:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5574457)
Birdo came over too.

Wart had a cameo appearance in Link's Awakening but that's a totally diff IP.

Fuck me, I can't believe I forgot about Birdo. Especially when you fight her so many times throughout the game.

M-A-G 08-30-2022 05:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5574451)
This game actually made Luigi a unique individual.... before he was just a palette swapped Mario. This game made him the taller one with longer jumps

I like how as the franchise went on Luigi is the one that has a much more developed personality than his brother. Mario is just your typical smiling nice guy hero. Luigi actually has character in that he's a bit of a scaredy-cat but trying to be more like his brother despite it all.

screech 08-30-2022 07:29 PM

Easy 5. One of my favorite games ever. And the music is outstanding.

Destor 08-30-2022 09:23 PM

As a former tpww game runner i can understand if you want to wrap this up. If you do this is high not of a game to go out on. That said i enjoy these threads and im always happy to see a new one.

Fignuts 08-31-2022 01:18 AM

5 for sure.

One of my favorites back in the day. Only ever beat it once.

Fignuts 08-31-2022 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5574501)
As a former tpww game runner i can understand if you want to wrap this up. If you do this is high not of a game to go out on. That said i enjoy these threads and im always happy to see a new one.

Yeah, I stopped doing the fire pro tournament cause it was a ton of work and only 2 or 3 people, yourself included, gave a shit.

Props to MAG for sticking with this so long even when participation started to dwindle.

drave 08-31-2022 08:45 AM

I watched your fire pro videos :(

Destor 08-31-2022 08:54 AM

I was def having fun but i absolutely get it. Ive ran like 10 games on tpww and im working on a new one now. Its an investment

Fignuts 08-31-2022 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drave (Post 5574557)
I watched your fire pro videos :(

Maybe I'll start recording matches and post them in the fire pro thread for you and destor.

drave 08-31-2022 09:13 AM

No worries my dude. never played it, but it sure looks REALLY in depth and like a big time investment.


If you do, awesome, I'll definitely watch!

Destor 08-31-2022 11:51 AM

Yeah only do it if it interests you ya know? Im down though

Helmsphere 08-31-2022 11:58 AM

I wish my laptop could run fire pro smoothly. Seriously considering getting the steam deck.

M-A-G 08-31-2022 12:33 PM

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M-A-G 08-31-2022 12:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 5574446)
3. Too different and didn’t feel like a Mario title. Was basically a different game with Mario thrown into it for Western markets.

I get this sentiment but I'm trying to picture what the reaction would've been if we had gotten the actual Japanese sequel. Playing the Lost Levels after this entry kind of makes me glad they went the route they did because it was too similar to the original entry.

Lock Jaw 08-31-2022 02:52 PM

I have honestly barely played Lost Levels.... I remember it being on All-Stars but as a kid I was just like "why should I bother, it is the same as the first one"

Big Vic 08-31-2022 03:03 PM

I think it's considered the hardest official Mario game.

drave 08-31-2022 03:09 PM

Lost levels just isn't fun, really.


It's more of just "Let's make nearly-impossible levels and" yeah, that's about it.


I've played through it on All Stars. The reward for the hours and hours of punishment is not worth it

Destor 08-31-2022 03:26 PM

Lost levels is a very bad game and i LOVE platforming and difficult platforming on top of that. Smb1 controls for shit but smb1 is great because it doesnt ask too much of its shitty controls. Smb2 JPN feels like shit and demands precision from a game that doesnt offer the option.

Destor 08-31-2022 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helmsphere (Post 5574585)
I wish my laptop could run fire pro smoothly. Seriously considering getting the steam deck.

Steamdeck is worth your time and once the dock releases its going to be a must buy for imo

M-A-G 08-31-2022 10:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by drave (Post 5574414)


I've always wanted a sequel in the same style, maybe add a few new characters in the mix from over the years and give them abilities too! It'd be the shit.




Also want a Super Mario RPG sequel damnit! But that's for another thread.

See, I knew I had seen a mention of a Super Mario RPG sequel.

https://i.imgur.com/Y55uIWc.jpg

They had a chance to do something similar to Super Mario Bros. 2 with Super Mario 3D Land but if I'm not mistaken, every character pretty much plays the same.

drave 09-01-2022 07:45 AM

Not the same - not even close.

M-A-G 09-01-2022 08:16 AM

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Oh, well I've only played a demo of 3D Land so I'm not an expert on it. I should probably get around to picking it up.

drave 09-01-2022 08:29 AM

It isn't a terrible game, it just isn't Mario RPG.


I recall the timing mechanic to score a "2nd hit" with each character. I wouldn't know, but that was training me for the epic that is Legend of Dragoon all the years later.

M-A-G 09-03-2022 06:52 PM

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Ugh, I went back and forth on this one over what to rate it. Ultimately, I gave it another whirl on the Switch and that combined with some heavy nostalgia, I had to break down and give it a 5.

Like Super Mario World, I don't go back to this one as much as I do with Super Mario Bros. 3. I find it to be the hardest of the original NES trilogy. In fact, I beat the third game before I ever beat the other two. The thing is this game was a huge fixture in a time when I was really close to my sisters, both of whom are older than me. We didn't (and still don't) have a lot in common to bond over when we were younger but that went away when it came to Nintendo. In fact, one of my sisters joined me about year ago in playing New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe on the Switch.

Memories aside though, Nintendo did an awesome job repurposing the template that was Doki Doki Panic! into what we got. Playing as the different characters blew my mind, the music was catchy and memorable, the graphics were an improvement over the original, and the mechanics were fun to mess around with. Granted it didn't really mean much in overall scheme of things as a lot of what was in this game has been forgotten when it comes to making newer entries, but it meant enough.


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