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Raven Reaper 10-30-2014 08:27 PM

Oh really. Clearly, you haven't seen my XBOX 360 console and collections that are filling the CD containers like mushrooms. Come see my house some time and we'll play! As for PC games, here's my screenshot as proof of it.

http://thumbnails109.imagebam.com/36...f361231131.jpg

road doggy dogg 10-30-2014 08:32 PM

Anita Sarkeesian is a better gamer than you are

Raven Reaper 10-30-2014 08:33 PM

Yes, she is and she enjoys killing those strippers in the Hitman Absolution game which in reality, I did the opposite of her playthrough. Hahaha..

As for online gaming: I have an account on this site: http://assaultfire.ph/ I wanna frag your ass. Sign up, maggot.

If Anita is such a good gamer, I challenge HER TO MOOOORTALLL KOMBBAAAT!!!

drave 10-30-2014 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 4536975)
I don't see how shutting down a site would be a good call for the movement. I don't think shutting down a site is their go to move, I've mostly seen that they subvert attempts to hide information. I would call that their 'signature move'.

Exactly, it wouldn't. They don't care enough to bother with it. Shutting down a site is not just "shutting down a site" when that group does it. Who said it was their go to? It is, in nearly all cases, only the beginning.

From my standpoint, there is nothing else to be said about this topic. I hope only that one day, people can wear big boy pants and not be so over-reactive to the opinions of others, especially in such a petty arena.

drave 10-30-2014 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by road doggy dogg (Post 4537031)
Anita Sarkeesian is a better gamer than you are

QFT

Raven Reaper 10-30-2014 10:20 PM

Like I said, I challenge Anita to Mortal Kombat Tournament, Tekken, DOA, or better yet, WWE HELL IN A CELL 2K15!!!! I'm gonna go Dean Ambrose on her sexist ass!

Fignuts 10-30-2014 10:23 PM

lord god

Raven Reaper 10-31-2014 12:18 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1Fzby-CIAAAR6i.jpg

Spot the difference.

road doggy dogg 10-31-2014 12:29 AM

I'd tell you to stop posting a bunch of rubbish propaganda, but propaganda typically tends to be persuasive in illustrating a point

Kalyx triaD 10-31-2014 12:52 AM

That seemed pretty clear. And you can go through both their twitter posts and see a clear difference in tone.

Ruien 10-31-2014 08:29 AM

Does anyone blame Anita for not wanting to discuss things with people like Raven Reaper.

Heisenberg 10-31-2014 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Raven Reaper (Post 4537139)

The fact that someone took the time to make this storyline poster troubles me.

I think you're forgetting the fact that some of us here are still trying to figure out why it's ok to even threaten women over something like video games, a medium for fun.

It's a well known fact that sometimes women say things that they don't mean. Don't go to bed angry with them, maybe it's their time of the month. Anita just needs a man, her last one betrayed her in a video game perhaps. Maybe she got buried hard in an online game. Maybe she lost her good D. Find her the good D and the negativity will subside, you'll be able to resume playing w/e game you desire until your master deems necessary to tell you otherwise.

The Rogerer 10-31-2014 11:11 AM

That's nice of her to adopt Lingo but she's no Madonna.

Kalyx triaD 10-31-2014 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 4537228)
Does anyone blame Anita for not wanting to discuss things with people like Raven Reaper.

She doesn't have debates with anyone. No matter which side you're on her avoidance of any kind of rebuttal after two years is an issue. There's been very good rebuttals she or the gaming press refuses to address. Consider an Atheist or Christian refusing to engage challenges on YouTube or Twitter - they'd be discarded.

Ruien 10-31-2014 01:34 PM

I think you missed the joke......

Kalyx triaD 10-31-2014 01:39 PM

The joke was a poke at Raven, what you touched on a serious issue about her.

Ruien 10-31-2014 01:54 PM

This will make it completely unfunny but let me explain this for you. Raven, who we have all seen in this thread is not the best person to discuss anything with, made a post about how terrible Anita is for not doing a discussion. Now, if Raven came up to you and wanted to discuss this topic would you want to? Why should she? Hence, it is ironic Raven is posting that picture.

Or we can just get back to serious business video game reviews. Sorry for getting off topic. Once, this video game called Tomba received a rating of 8 on game informer! Those pricks, I bought the game and wasted my allowance money because it was so terrible. That guy needs to be fired for doing such a horrible, serious business, video game review!

Ruien 10-31-2014 01:55 PM

That person was probably a female too because they can't write serious business reviews for anything!

Kalyx triaD 10-31-2014 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 4537406)
This will make it completely unfunny but let me explain this for you. Raven, who we have all seen in this thread is not the best person to discuss anything with, made a post about how terrible Anita is for not doing a discussion. Now, if Raven came up to you and wanted to discuss this topic would you want to? Why should she? Hence, it is ironic Raven is posting that picture.

Now it's unfunny? To each his own, I guess.

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Or we can just get back to serious business video game reviews. Sorry for getting off topic. Once, this video game called Tomba received a rating of 8 on game informer! Those pricks, I bought the game and wasted my allowance money because it was so terrible. That guy needs to be fired for doing such a horrible, serious business, video game review!
Why are you bringing up review scores? I personally don't care for them and GG isn't concerned with review scores either.

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Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 4537408)
That person was probably a female too because they can't write serious business reviews for anything!

Women are perfectly capable of writing game reviews, what are you on about?

Kalyx triaD 10-31-2014 02:01 PM

I've written quite a bit about this subject here and I'm trying to figure out why you're bringing up review scores and women writing them as some kind of 'gotcha'. You're the first guy to bring that up in here.

Ruien 10-31-2014 02:02 PM

You fail to see this as serious business. I am sorry.

The Rogerer 10-31-2014 02:19 PM

ANITA DOES NOT ADOPT LINGO

FACT

road doggy dogg 10-31-2014 02:26 PM

ughhhhhhhhh

The Rogerer 10-31-2014 02:27 PM

FACT NUMBER 1 ANITA DISCUSSES
FACT NUMBER 2 ANITA DOESN'T DISCUSS

DOES ANITA ADOPT LINGO?

THE EXCEPTION PROVES THE RULE

FACT

drave 10-31-2014 03:10 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Getting tired of well off, privileged white people talking about how scared they are of internet trolls. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GamerGate?src=hash">#GamerGate</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DangerScale?src=hash">#DangerScale</a></p>&mdash; Jean Kalyx (@Kalyx_triaD) <a href="https://twitter.com/Kalyx_triaD/status/528235994752245760">October 31, 2014</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Really?

road doggy dogg 10-31-2014 03:13 PM

lmao

The Rogerer 10-31-2014 03:13 PM

Says a big fucking dweeb who cares about the most meaningless stuff in a way that makes no sense.

Also a male ie the most privileged position in humanity.

The Rogerer 10-31-2014 03:14 PM

Haha CONVINCE OUR EBONIES

Why don't you convince your ebonies how ethics in games journalism matters

The Rogerer 10-31-2014 03:15 PM

'YOUR' ebonies?

Your twitter is fucking hilarious.

The Rogerer 10-31-2014 03:53 PM

Did you triangulate that relativism?

Sounds like you like subjectivity.

Ultra Mantis 10-31-2014 07:16 PM

Those privileged white video games people should just take those rape and murder threats like men.

Because fuck women, right? RIGHT!?

Kalyx triaD 10-31-2014 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultra Mantis (Post 4537565)
Those privileged white video games people should just take those rape and murder threats like men.

Because fuck women, right? RIGHT!?

I didn't mention women.

There's a trend of people speaking about how dangerous their lives are (from coffee shops, Nintendo stores, and cyber cafes) and really weaponizing the public response to harassment and death threats and such. Law enforcement makes the distinction between credible death threats and trolling for a reason. It's also why we didn't hear about the GDC bomb threat until six months later. Brianna Wu's actions sense her tweeting of death threats would go against what officials would tell her to do in the case of credible death threats.

After some time with no deaths, arrests, or so much as a black eye dealt to either side and law enforcement not confirming any credible threat to anybody - the weaponizing of victimhood will weaken the validity of harassment and threats. Cry wolf and all that.

More to my tweet; the people speaking most about how scared they are (so scared they tweet from bars with their buddies), are people who live otherwise safe lives and would be least likely to encounter actual danger. So yeah, take death threat trolls like a man/woman. Your issue with my post is the sort of thing Rhiannon would have appreciated, but only now are some of you concerned about harassment.

Kalyx triaD 10-31-2014 07:55 PM

Also thanks for checking out my Twitter. I also has a blog and YouTube channel.

The Rogerer 10-31-2014 09:09 PM

The sort of thing Rhiannon would have appreciated is my dick

Kalyx, Rhiannon is #NOTYOURSHIELD. oops.

Ultra Mantis 10-31-2014 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 4537571)
I didn't mention women.

There's a trend of people speaking about how dangerous their lives are (from coffee shops, Nintendo stores, and cyber cafes) and really weaponizing the public response to harassment and death threats and such. Law enforcement makes the distinction between credible death threats and trolling for a reason. It's also why we didn't hear about the GDC bomb threat until six months later. Brianna Wu's actions sense her tweeting of death threats would go against what officials would tell her to do in the case of credible death threats.

After some time with no deaths, arrests, or so much as a black eye dealt to either side and law enforcement not confirming any credible threat to anybody - the weaponizing of victimhood will weaken the validity of harassment and threats. Cry wolf and all that.

More to my tweet; the people speaking most about how scared they are (so scared they tweet from bars with their buddies), are people who live otherwise safe lives and would be least likely to encounter actual danger. So yeah, take death threat trolls like a man/woman. Your issue with my post is the sort of thing Rhiannon would have appreciated, but only now are some of you concerned about harassment.

My issue with your post is that you have an issue with people really not enjoying receiving abusive and threatening messages via the internet. How do you measure danger if somebody can easily give away details of your personal life, including the address of your family home, to the entire internet, which as I'm sure you're aware does contain some very dangerous and sick individuals. Even if it is "just" trolling, you have to consider the whole damaging aspect of people saying such horrible shit to you on a daily basis. How exactly SHOULD you deal with a death threat? Talk me through the protocol.

ron the dial 10-31-2014 09:41 PM

just don't be a pussy, obviously.

Bad News Gertner 10-31-2014 09:46 PM

lol fags

Kalyx triaD 10-31-2014 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultra Mantis (Post 4537612)
My issue with your post is that you have an issue with people really not enjoying receiving abusive and threatening messages via the internet.

That is not my stance, I'm sorry if it seemed that way. I don't think people should like it, but stopping the world over it is overblown. There are degrees.

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How do you measure danger if somebody can easily give away details of your personal life, including the address of your family home, to the entire internet, which as I'm sure you're aware does contain some very dangerous and sick individuals.
I understand how doxxing is very threatening, but consider the difference between Quinn being doxxed and Nero having a syringe sent to his house. One person used the issue to spread her name around and ignored proper channels to deal with that, the other person took it seriously and refused to publicize it.

One side is making this a game, and it's the side who law enforcement deemed safe. Brianna Wu left her home of her own volition.

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Even if it is "just" trolling, you have to consider the whole damaging aspect of people saying such horrible shit to you on a daily basis. How exactly SHOULD you deal with a death threat? Talk me through the protocol.
Contact the FBI, do not publicize it, and definitely don't use it as a reason to spread political agendas.

SlickyTrickyDamon 11-01-2014 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Raven Reaper (Post 4536967)
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I think this explains why journalism ethics didn't quite fit the bill for her..

Yeah I always take the side of a pussy who won't show his face when he is saying something and talks via a computer voice.

Not.

The Rogerer 11-01-2014 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 4537652)
That is not my stance, I'm sorry if it seemed that way. I don't think people should like it, but stopping the world over it is overblown. There are degrees.



I understand how doxxing is very threatening, but consider the difference between Quinn being doxxed and Nero having a syringe sent to his house. One person used the issue to spread her name around and ignored proper channels to deal with that, the other person took it seriously and refused to publicize it.

One side is making this a game, and it's the side who law enforcement deemed safe. Brianna Wu left her home of her own volition.



Contact the FBI, do not publicize it, and definitely don't use it as a reason to spread political agendas.

Stop victim blaming.

You're not talking about ethics in games journalism. Just how some women are doing things wrong and not thinking about things triangularly.


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