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Ruien 03-02-2010 08:42 AM

Divas never to win the title
 
We always talk about what wrestlers should have won the WWE/World titles along with the rest of them, but we never talk about what diva should have won the title.

So, what diva do you believe should have been given the title?

Sixx 03-02-2010 08:46 AM

Absolutely none.

Move to porn already, ladies.

Savio 03-02-2010 10:30 AM

Chyna almost went her whole career without winning that title.

roach21 03-02-2010 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Sixx (Post 2963218)
Absolutely none.

Move to porn already, ladies.

Agreed. Except for Neidhart. No one deserves to see that. All the Divas worthy of holding a title (Trish, Melina, Beth, Mickie) have held it. I really wish WWE would drop the Bimbos and sign Kong, Cheerleader Melissa, Lacey & Rain, and have some real women's wrestling.

Xero 03-02-2010 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Savior (Post 2963271)
Chyna almost went her whole career without winning that title.

Well, the operation was pending.

screech 03-02-2010 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by roach21 (Post 2963273)
Agreed. Except for Neidhart. No one deserves to see that.

Blasphemy!

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Originally Posted by roach21 (Post 2963273)
Lacey...real women's wrestling.

Please tell me you're kidding with this.

Xero 03-02-2010 11:40 AM

Those two quote negate any future posts from roach21.

KIRA 03-02-2010 11:49 AM

Lacey :rofl:

screech 03-02-2010 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by roach21 (Post 2963273)
Lacey...real women's wrestling.

Seriously?

Sixx 03-02-2010 11:57 AM

I just read on wiki that Lacey uses a chokeslam. Must look ridiculous.

TheHaunted 03-02-2010 12:40 PM

He probably means this Lacey: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lacey_%28wrestler%29

The Jayman 03-02-2010 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sixx (Post 2963339)
I just read on wiki that Lacey uses a chokeslam. Must look ridiculous.

I've seen her do it once.





















:nono:

Fignuts 03-02-2010 12:45 PM

I sure as fuck hope he does.

Jay p fury 03-02-2010 01:28 PM

this my 1st post, but ive been reading these threads for years...i just wanna say that we should give nattie her due...plus her ass is amazing...i feel the need to let you all know im black...it aint important but after that statement, you can understand why i dig nattie

RGWhat316 03-02-2010 02:43 PM

He is definitely talking about ROH's Lacey. Her and Rain are the Minnesota Home Wrecking Crew. Lacey von Erich, is just plain bad.

To the actual topic, I wouldn't mind seeing Jillian with a real title reign. She had one for about 5 minutes in October. She is an over heel, and she can actually wrestle.

Jay p fury 03-02-2010 03:17 PM

i love lacey...i have a school girl crush on her...i got it bad for her. i mean she has no body, but i would love to get her in a pretzel of some sort lol

as far as divas for a title run, i think nattie needs the title...she can wrestle better than most divas

roach21 03-02-2010 03:42 PM

Lacey from ROH hence the reason why I said Lacey & Rain.

My Final Heaven 03-02-2010 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by roach21 (Post 2963273)
Rain...real women's wrestling.

<i>That's</i> what he should've caught the flak for, Rain is horrible in the ring. I effing hate that "deer in the headlights" look she gets when she's caught in the middle of a match & not sure of what she's supposed to do next :nono:

Then again, dating "Sick" Nick Mondo has got to be like Kryptonite to your wrestling skills.

Jay p fury 03-02-2010 04:35 PM

nick mondo is garbage...i would rather watch sexy eddie backflip off the cage of death with a trash can on his head...again.

TannerLittleton 03-02-2010 06:04 PM

I'd personally like to see Katie Lea and Natalya Neidhart win the title.

Savio 11-28-2016 09:51 PM

I wonder if Naomi will ever win the title.

Wishbone 11-28-2016 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Savio (Post 4892563)
I wonder if Naomi will ever win the title.

Hope so. She's great, and she's done a lot recently to freshen herself up.

Mr. Nerfect 11-28-2016 11:58 PM

I'm obviously not saying this on a personal level, but I fucking hate Naomi. She's so fucking annoying. The dancing shtick is just fucking dumb. We get it, you used to dance. Isn't that Diva shit? She does a cool springboard, but she's got no clue how to put it all together in the context of a match.

It'll turn out she was the one who attacked Nikki Bella and she'll win the Women's Title to defend it against Nikki at WrestleMania.

Wishbone 11-29-2016 12:27 AM

I don't see what's wrong with the dancing thing. It's part of her gimmick. There've been plenty of guys that incorporated dancing into their gimmicks so I'd hardly call it a "Diva" thing either. Personally I think her whole entrance is one of the best in WWE right now. It's actually exciting and different which in today's WWE is a breath of fresh air since everyone's entrances are pretty much identical minus a few poses here and there.

Mr. Nerfect 11-29-2016 12:53 AM

I don't think it's exciting. I've always felt people who are like "Look at my moves!" are super pretentious and I want them to fuck off immediately. I say "Diva" thing because she dances by shaking her ass around, which I think is a throw back to the old ways of girls who danced by shaking their ass around.

Droford 11-29-2016 12:58 AM

Was just thinking about the fact that even Jillian Hall won the Divas Title for a very short time

Mr. Nerfect 11-29-2016 01:36 AM

I actually forgot she won it. I was actually thinking about her as I read the title. Whoops.

DAMN iNATOR 11-29-2016 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4892751)
I'm obviously not saying this on a personal level, but I fucking hate Naomi. She's so fucking annoying. The dancing shtick is just fucking dumb. We get it, you used to dance. Isn't that Diva shit? She does a cool springboard, but she's got no clue how to put it all together in the context of a match.

It'll turn out she was the one who attacked Nikki Bella and she'll win the Women's Title to defend it against Nikki at WrestleMania.

I'm with ya on the first paragraph. I do not now, nor do I ever, wish to, "#FeelTheGlow", and I too feel miffed and befuddled at her particular entrance dance. Furthermore, I have no desire to see a woman who looks like one of mid-2000's D-X's glow stick as future RAW or SD! Women's Champion.

Fignuts 11-29-2016 06:35 AM

Naomi's entrancebis great. Haters gonna hate.

Big Vic 11-29-2016 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4892774)
I don't think it's exciting. I've always felt people who are like "Look at my moves!" are super pretentious and I want them to freeek off immediately. I say "Diva" thing because she dances by shaking her ass around, which I think is a throw back to the old ways of girls who danced by shaking their ass around.

Weren't you a fan of Emma when she danced in her intro? hmmmmmm #Racist #JustKidding.

Juan 11-29-2016 08:33 AM

Naomi doesn't come off as pretentious on TV. Do you mean like backstage or something?

Mr. Nerfect 11-29-2016 03:38 PM

No, I'm sure she's wonderful backstage. "#FeeltheGlow"? Come on, that's tacky.

Mr. Nerfect 11-29-2016 03:46 PM

"Look at me dance, guys! Isn't dancing cool? Look, I'm dancing! Please cheer me!"

It's not over, any fleeting excitement she generates from the same sort of people who enjoy the "How you doin?" lists that don't make any sense or have any punchline dissipates when the match starts and people remember that she's clunky and has never actually really had a good match.

She's athletic as hell. That springboard she does is impressive. She can do some cool moves. She hasn't displayed that she knows how to put them into a context though. Granted, she hasn't really been given the best opportunity over the five years or however long she's been in WWE, but there's nothing about her that really makes me want to see that anyway. She's another relic of the "Diva" era and if you're really going to try and turn the newer women into genuine stars, then the forest should have been burnt in that regard. What sort of "revolution" leaves everything and everyone exactly the same?

Mr. Nerfect 11-29-2016 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 4892827)
Weren't you a fan of Emma when she danced in her intro? hmmmmmm #Racist #JustKidding.

I know you are joking, but the difference between Naomi and Emma is that Emma was making fun of dancing. It was that lost irony that helped sink her gimmick on the main roster.

KIRA 11-29-2016 04:26 PM

Alicia Fox really should have a heel run with the (current)title.She may be from the "diva era" but unlike Naomi she actually can put her moves together (and they are smooth) like Nikki she worked her ass off to get better but unlike Nikki Alicia's improvement was massive, despite that she remains ridiculously underrated and underutilized.

Its unfortunate that Natalya showed up before the Women really got to shine its downright criminal that she isn't given the chance to really wrestle even in today's environment.

Big Vic 11-29-2016 04:27 PM

@Noid: She's had a good match with AJ before.

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Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 4892955)
Alicia Fox really should have a heel run with the title.

She was champ for a month until she had an epic match with Melina and lost the title.

KIRA 11-29-2016 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 4892956)
@Noid: She's had a good match with AJ before.


She was champ for a month until she had an epic match with Melina and lost the title.

Not counting the divas title women's matches were still piss breaks then.

Yes that match was fun.

Mercenary 11-29-2016 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 4892956)
@Noid: She's had a good match with AJ before.


She was champ for a month until she had an epic match with Melina and lost the title.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kAeNSy3Kvh...speechless.gif


Had to

Mr. Nerfect 11-29-2016 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 4892956)
@Noid: She's had a good match with AJ before.

Okay. Not being a snark, but I honestly cannot remember it. I do remember her kicking all sorts of ass in the NXT competition, but Kaitlyn ultimately winning just because she was interacting with Vickie Guerrero who was over like gang-busters. Did it happen there?

As for Alicia Fox -- there's nothing genuinely off-putting about her. During the Diva era she was comparatively good in the ring. I liked the little nod of her being William Regal's favorite female wrestler for a while. I thought the tantrum stuff was blown up way too much. I think it stood out just because it was...something. But she seems to get hotter and hotter and more and more comfortable.

I'd honestly like to see her in NXT. They're afraid to send talent back there because it looks like a demotion, but NXT is essentially its own brand and can allow talent a real refresh. Alicia Fox taking the initiative to head down to the localized Performance Center to work on her craft would be a nice way to use her more prominently.

Big Vic 11-30-2016 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4893009)
Okay. Not being a snark, but I honestly cannot remember it. I do remember her kicking all sorts of ass in the NXT competition, but Kaitlyn ultimately winning just because she was interacting with Vickie Guerrero who was over like gang-busters. Did it happen there?

Yeah it happened there.


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