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SOCCER LEGS 03-24-2010 04:53 PM

there's only weeks between night of champions and hell in a cell PPVs this year...
 
a little ridiculous don't you think?

Juan 03-24-2010 04:54 PM

There's almost always one instance, when two PPV's are about 2-3 weeks apart every year. Try to keep up.

Favre4Ever 03-24-2010 04:55 PM

the ones in the summertime always seem to blend together.

SOCCER LEGS 03-24-2010 04:55 PM

show me one instance where two PPVs were only 14 days apart in the past.

Juan 03-24-2010 05:04 PM

Look it up

The Franchise 03-24-2010 06:01 PM

Google that shit

Xero 03-24-2010 06:02 PM

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...3g/goggles.png

screech 03-24-2010 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SOCCER LEGS (Post 2993304)
show me one instance where two PPVs were only 14 days apart in the past.

December to Dismember: December 3, 2006

Armageddon: December 17, 2006


I win.

The Franchise 03-24-2010 09:32 PM

SOCCER LEGS got SPLASHED

Loose Cannon 03-24-2010 09:36 PM

SPEAR SPEAR SPEAR

Savio 03-24-2010 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by screech (Post 2993592)
December to Dismember: December 3, 2006

Armageddon: December 17, 2006


I win.

there are other examples....must better than this one.....this one shouldn't even count

screech 03-24-2010 10:23 PM

He asked for one, and I only looked those two up because of Tommy Gunn's post.

Theo Dious 03-24-2010 10:50 PM

November 27, 1991: Survivor Series

December 3, 1991: This Tuesday in Texas

Snap.

Xero 03-24-2010 10:52 PM

lol

screech 03-24-2010 10:57 PM

Well there ya go

Loose Cannon 03-24-2010 11:42 PM

Beware of Dog

#1) May 26, 1996 Florence, South Carolina Florence Civic Center
#2) May 28, 1996 North Charleston, South Carolina North Charleston Coliseum

ZING BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Theo Dious 03-25-2010 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon (Post 2993748)
Beware of Dog

#1) May 26, 1996 Florence, South Carolina Florence Civic Center
#2) May 28, 1996 North Charleston, South Carolina North Charleston Coliseum

ZING BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I call shenanigans on this. This wasn't really two PPVs, but one that was rescheduled.

Plus, I don't want you beating me. :mad:

Anybody Thrilla 03-25-2010 12:27 AM

I feel like there were two in 2009 that were only 3 weeks apart. Maybe TLC and whatever was after that?

Jeritron 03-25-2010 12:27 AM

There are plenty of examples. The One Night Stands usually came in between the regular monthly PPVs.

Same with Cyber Sundays, and New Years Revolutions.

Jeritron 03-25-2010 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2993803)
I feel like there were two in 2009 that were only 3 weeks apart. Maybe TLC and whatever was after that?

Didn't seem like a lot of time between the Rumble and Elimination Chamber

Anybody Thrilla 03-25-2010 12:42 AM

Yeah, that was probably like 3 weeks too.

Jeritron 03-25-2010 12:44 AM

Sometimes PPVs don't need weeks of build anyways. Especially if they're going to feature extensions of existing fueds.

For instance, if Cena and CM Punk are fueding, the chances are a Night of Champions match isn't going to be the blowoff. They'd carry it over to conclude in a hell in a cell. 2 weeks of build for that is fine.

Jimmy Cones 03-25-2010 09:34 AM

Wasn't Tuesday in Texas only days apart from a PPV?

Schlomey 03-25-2010 10:58 AM

Meh it's time to drop a PPV off the calender anyways.

Xero 03-25-2010 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2993830)
Sometimes PPVs don't need weeks of build anyways. Especially if they're going to feature extensions of existing fueds.

For instance, if Cena and CM Punk are fueding, the chances are a Night of Champions match isn't going to be the blowoff. They'd carry it over to conclude in a hell in a cell. 2 weeks of build for that is fine.

I disagree. If they can't build a PPV to make it worth the money they shouldn't be running it. As it is, WWE tends to run PPVs in such a way that we're accustomed to accepting PPVs where little or nothing relevant happens other than some storyline advancement that could easily happen on TV. That's what they have 6 hours of programming a week for.

PPVs should be special, not used only as storyline advancement.

Schlomey 03-25-2010 11:17 AM

Summerslam 2009 fell victim to horrible booking as it lacked ANY big 4 ppv feel. 3 weeks to build your supposed second largest PPV of the calender year? Yeah they bit off more than they could chew and the buyrate proved that. It would be beneficial to free up a slot and leave at least 4 to 5 weeks to build it similiar to Mania.

Anybody Thrilla 03-25-2010 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geno33soccer (Post 2994279)
Wasn't Tuesday in Texas only days apart from a PPV?

Post 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tedious (Post 2993698)
November 27, 1991: Survivor Series

December 3, 1991: This Tuesday in Texas

Snap.

Post 14

The Jayman 03-25-2010 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tedious (Post 2993698)
Snap.


Volare 03-25-2010 02:16 PM

As long as they don't do the stupid ass Triple Threat "Champion of Champions" match again, I really could care less lol.

St. Jimmy 03-25-2010 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schlomey (Post 2994325)
Meh it's time to drop a PPV off the calender anyways.

Yeah, let's get rid of this SummerSlam bullshit. Also we're going to change the name of the Royal Rumble to:

Over The Top

St. Jimmy 03-25-2010 06:29 PM

not to be confused with:

http://images.themoviedb.org/posters...OverTheTop.jpg

The Franchise 03-25-2010 06:30 PM

damn St Jimmy crashed my firefox

St. Jimmy 03-26-2010 11:05 AM

it was the sheer awesomeness of stallone. seriously though, 2 weeks? they've built more with less time in the past - stop bitchin'.

Jeritron 03-26-2010 12:10 PM

I don't even see where the complaint would stem from anyways. If it's too many PPVs, or not a satisfying enough build don't order the thing. Or don't watch it on a free feed.

You know the IWC has lost it's mind when it's complaining about one PPV out of 13 that they're either not watching, or catching on a feed.

screech 03-26-2010 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2995814)
I don't even see where the complaint would stem from anyways. If it's too many PPVs, or not a satisfying enough build don't order the thing. Or don't watch it on a free feed.

You know the IWC has lost it's mind when it's complaining about one PPV out of 13 that they're either not watching, or catching on a feed.

This :y:

Jeritron 03-26-2010 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 2994337)
I disagree. If they can't build a PPV to make it worth the money they shouldn't be running it. As it is, WWE tends to run PPVs in such a way that we're accustomed to accepting PPVs where little or nothing relevant happens other than some storyline advancement that could easily happen on TV. That's what they have 6 hours of programming a week for.

PPVs should be special, not used only as storyline advancement.

My post didn't say anything about the PPV not being worth the money, or not being eventful.
I was saying that they can build just as effectively to a PPV in 2 weeks as they can in 4, under the right circumstances.

If anything this supports what you're saying in disagreement. If the 6 hours of programming is used to advance the storyline, the PPV becomes a big deal. Fueds carry over to multiple PPVs, so why does it always have to be the same amount of time between each?

Especially when the PPV in question is the Hell in a Cell. The Hell in a Cell is, and should be a fued ender. If the fued is hot, and is going to the cell, I don't see the need for a longer story advancement. At that point the storyline has been being advanced for a while.

I guess you could argue that the PPV prior to this should be the one that is scrapped. Still, the fued is more than likely going to have history dating back to the PPV before that, so then you get into the territory of far too much time between PPVs.
If it didn't date back to the previous PPV, the fued would have started on televison and be going to hell in a cell in it's first PPV meeting. That's a clusterfuck. If it was opted not to carry over, it would be resolved before the next PPV. This would mean fueds would be ended or changed between PPVs on television. That's hot-shotting.

thedamndest 03-26-2010 03:11 PM

The WWE probably looks at it from a numbers point of view before they look at it from a booking point of view. They want to maximize the number of PPVs they can offer a year without causing them to lose buys because there are too many. The booking falls into place from there. Whether or not anything happened on a PPV isn't entirely irrelevant because in the long run if you feel you aren't getting your money's worth you may stop purchasing the product, or if you don't like the direction of the product you may not order for the month, but these types of changes don't affect the long-term business model.

Jeritron 03-26-2010 03:16 PM

At least it's a real PPV. Cyber Sunday was worse when it comes to ongoing storylines and advancement.
It featured "choose your own adventure" matches, so the build was about who a guy would be facing at the PPV, and not focused on a fued.
If a storyline or angle existed, it would have to be put on the backburner for the whole fan's choice gimmick. Whether or not the fans actually had a say is debateable


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