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Xero 03-25-2010 03:11 PM

Vince McMahon on TNA: "I don’t think that’s what the culture wants these days"
 
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One of the biggest days on the sports entertainment calendar arrives Sunday, March 28, when Wrestlemania XXVI takes place before a packed University of Phoenix Stadium. It will be watched by millions more on pay-per-view.

And when the World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE) invades Glendale, Ariz., the biggest feuds of the year will culminate on the grandest stage of them all. Not only is John Cena challenging Batista for the WWE Championship and Chris Jericho is putting his World Championship on the line against Edge, but the Undertaker is betting his legendary Wrestlemania undefeated streak against Shawn Michaels’ career in a rematch of last year’s classic match, and those are just some of the highlights of a star-studded card.

The excitement around this special event doesn’t end with the fan, it extends all the way up to the company’s owner, Greenwich resident Vince McMahon.

“There’s an extra amount of excitement,” Mr. McMahon said. “It’s the culmination to a year of buildup for us. ...Wrestlemania was the first pay-per-view we did on a national basis and to be able to do it, we literally risked everything we owned. So every Wrestlemania is special. To us it’s like the Oscars or the Grammys or the World Series or the Super Bowl.”

The story surrounding the first Wrestlemania, March 31, 1985 at Madison Square Garden, is nearly as legendary as the event itself. At a time when wrestling companies still held fast to the idea of regional territories, the McMahons were pushing their company toward a national presence. It was a risky venture and Mr. McMahon and his wife Linda literally staked ownership of the company on its success.

Ultimately, the marriage of pop culture to professional wrestling changed the industry’s landscape, allowing Wrestlemania to become a globally recognized event. Today you don’t even have to be a sports entertainment fan to know what Wrestlemania is.

“It has grown into everything I ever wanted it to be, but we’re still not there yet,” Mr. McMahon said. “There’s more that can be done, but it’s grown every year into something that people can’t miss.”

WWE has changed in the last few years and embraced a more family-friendly style for its weekly television shows. According to Mr. McMahon, the shift has allowed the company to grow and appeal to a more diverse audience, including women, who he says now make up 40% of the company’s audience, as well as the children who will make up the next generation of fans.

“At heart I think we’ve always been a bit of a family affair,” Mr. McMahon said. “If you look at the audience for our live events you will see fathers and sons and mothers and sons and brothers and sisters. This is something an entire family can go out and enjoy together. It’s a lot like baseball in that respect.”

The wrestling landscape itself has also changed in the last six months. For years WWE battled rival World Championship Wrestling (WCW) in what fans remember as the “Monday Night Wars” because both companies had programs going head to head Monday night. WWE decisively won the war in 2001 with the end of WCW, but this month Total Nonstop Action (TNA) moved its wrestling program to Monday nights directly against WWE’s flagship program RAW.

WWE isn’t sweating it though and the ratings have so far backed that confidence up, with millions more preferring WWE programming. Mr. McMahon even goes as far at to say TNA is “not competition.”

“We’re in different businesses,” Mr. McMahon said. “We’re in the entertainment business and they’re in the ‘pro wrasslin’ business. It’s different markets. When they moved to Monday nights they threw the kitchen sink at us and only did a fraction of our audience. It doesn’t speak well for the type of product they’re trying to present with the tawdry, blood-soaked action. I don’t think that’s what the culture wants these days.”


With the company producing movies, books, DVDs, monthly pay-per-views and hours of weekly television without any reruns, Mr. McMahon said WWE is more comparable to a company like Disney than to TNA.

“We’re woven into the fabric of Americana,” Mr. McMahon said.

But Mr. McMahon’s focus isn’t just on his company’s performance, since at this year’s Wrestlemania, he will be facing off against the legendary Bret “The Hitman” Hart in a match that has been building for nearly 13 years around real personal animosity Hart felt for his former boss. It’s not the first time Mr. McMahon has competed at Wrestlemania, but he is hoping it will be the last.

“It makes things more difficult,” Mr. McMahon admitted. “I really much more prefer working behind the scenes as a director and a producer than being part of the action. I do hope this will be my last time in the ring, but I say that after every match I’m in. I’m 64 years old and while I’m in great physical condition and I never want to say never, I really don’t want to do this again.”

However, he knows how long fans have been waiting to see The Hitman get his hands on the diabolical Mr. McMahon and he said his goal is to give the audience what it wants. Plus as one of his company’s biggest villains, Mr. McMahon loves the reaction he gets from the crowd.

“It’s an exciting feeling,” Mr. McMahon said. “When you get an audience to react to you the way the audience always does to the Mr. McMahon character, it’s one of the greatest feelings you can get as a performer and it’s a real shot of adrenaline. Whether it’s good or bad, you want that reaction. The only thing you don’t want is for the audience to just sit there and do nothing. That’s the death knell.”

Next year’s Wrestlemania is already set for Atlanta and Mr. McMahon admits that as soon as this year’s is over, people will begin looking ahead on the calendar.

“After a Wrestlemania someone always says, ‘Gee, that was great. How can you top it?’” Mr. McMahon said. “And the answer always is, ‘I don’t know how we can. But I do know that we will.’”

The Jayman 03-25-2010 03:17 PM

lol @ ‘pro wrasslin’ business

kareru 03-25-2010 03:17 PM

Quote:

“We’re in the entertainment business and they’re in the ‘pro wrasslin’ business.
that just says it all right there

Jordan 03-25-2010 03:32 PM

Vince is cool. I'd like to hang out with him.

BigDaddyCool 03-25-2010 03:34 PM

Vince is right you know. TNA is compitition to WWE the way a baby bunny is compition to me in fight.

Swiss Ultimate 03-25-2010 03:38 PM

I once watched BDC slaughter a hundred baby bunnies just for a laugh.

I'm still crying inside.

Xero 03-25-2010 03:39 PM

At least they were delicious.

Spaff 03-25-2010 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 2994705)
Vince is right you know. TNA is compitition to WWE the way a baby bunny is compition to me in fight.

if its a spelling bee,my moneys on the bunny:kiss:

AngryMidjit 03-25-2010 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spaff (Post 2994722)
if its a spelling bee,my moneys on the bunny:kiss:

ahAhAHAHAHAHA

i also lol'd at WWE being compared to Disney

Ermaximus 03-25-2010 04:05 PM

So how long before Vinnie Mac buys out TNA and fires Hogan and Bischoff? Again!

The Jayman 03-25-2010 04:07 PM

i'd say never

Xero 03-25-2010 04:09 PM

Once TNA goes under Vince will buy the library for like $30 and make millions off it.

Still can't wait for "The Rise and Fall and Fall and Fall and Fall of TNA".

Then they'll hold TNA One Night Stand, featuring Hogan and Flair in the main event.

The Jayman 03-25-2010 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 2994746)
Still can't wait for "The Rise and Fall and Fall and Fall and Fall of TNA".

i will watch to see where this "rise" comes into play

kareru 03-25-2010 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jayman (Post 2994751)
i will watch to see where this "rise" comes into play

id class being the number 1 wrestling company in north america as 'rise'

The Jayman 03-25-2010 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kareru (Post 2994752)
id class being the number 1 wrestling company in north america as 'rise'

I know. I was kidding. calm down bro :D

Xero 03-25-2010 04:17 PM

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Xero 03-25-2010 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kareru (Post 2994752)
id class being the number 1 wrestling company in north america as 'rise'

lol not this shit again.

And CZW's #2...

Volare 03-25-2010 04:21 PM

Vinny Mac even knows that TNA is just WCW 2.0....hence TNWCW.

kareru 03-25-2010 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 2994756)
lol not this shit again.

And CZW's #2...

“We’re in the entertainment business and they’re in the ‘pro wrasslin’ business

Xero 03-25-2010 04:25 PM

To be fair, TNA's Sports Entertainment too.

Vince is just wrong on that statement.

TheAdamEvansFan 03-25-2010 04:40 PM

38,815 posts by XERO. Worthy resume material right there. This guy knows his wrestling. Everyone bow down.

erickman 03-25-2010 04:44 PM

i rember vince saying the same thing about ted turner

Steveviscious89 03-25-2010 04:50 PM

Forget about arguing over who's wrestling and who's not. What about Vince claiming that the culture doesn't want what TNA is doing? I mean, deep down all of us here just want a good show, and we seem to have times where we think neither one of them is any good. I mean usually when you watch a TV show and no longer like it, you quit watching it. With wrestling, we just kind of sit and wait for it to get better, and we've been waiting for nearly ten years IMO. Is Vince right in his claim? Something has to give at some point.

Juan 03-25-2010 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kareru (Post 2994752)
id class being the number 1 wrestling company in north america as 'rise'

lol get the fuck out of here

St. Jimmy 03-25-2010 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 2994762)
To be fair, TNA's Sports Entertainment too.

Vince is just wrong on that statement.


I see the Sport, where's the entertainment?

TheAdamEvansFan 03-25-2010 05:44 PM

Maybe it's watching old ass Ric Flair n Hogan try to wrestle, but completely botching the moves. Their guts are almost as large as their egos. I don't know whether to call the local Nursing home security and to inform of an outbreak/fight or to invade the ring and kick their ass for good.

tjmidnight420 03-25-2010 05:47 PM

.... I... um.... ok I got nothing....

OK trying again...
TNA doesn't fare well against the E, but to say that it's different businesses is just retarded... Wrestling and boxing are different businesses. Wrestling and MMA are different. Wrestling and sports entertainment? That's just Vince's way of avoiding being regulated...

BigDaddyCool 03-25-2010 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathtotheSwiss (Post 2994708)
I once watched BDC slaughter a hundred baby bunnies just for a laugh.

I'm still crying inside.

I used a lawn mower.

Seriously though, my brother used to work as a lawn mower and slaughtered rabbits when mowing at a power plant with lots of unmowed grounds.

HBPunk 03-25-2010 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjmidnight420 (Post 2994851)
the E

THIS. SUCKS. Is TNA the A? Utter bollocks

tjmidnight420 03-25-2010 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HBPunk (Post 2994880)
THIS. SUCKS. Is TNA the A? Utter bollocks

There you go thinking again bro...
By Vince's own admission, and quoted in this very thread, WWE isn't in the "pro wrasslin" business. Note the second "W" in "WWE". Also worth noting that the "E" here stands for entertainment, the business he says he is in. See where I'm coming from? It's funny you've been registered here longer than me, and not only are you knocking the terms used here, you're trying to change them. GTFO if you can't be peaceable with the other posters here.

HBPunk 03-25-2010 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjmidnight420 (Post 2994912)
There you go thinking again bro...
By Vince's own admission, and quoted in this very thread, WWE isn't in the "pro wrasslin" business. Note the second "W" in "WWE". Also worth noting that the "E" here stands for entertainment, the business he says he is in. See where I'm coming from? It's funny you've been registered here longer than me, and not only are you knocking the terms used here, you're trying to change them. GTFO if you can't be peaceable with the other posters here.

You gave a nickname to something that is THREE letters long, you are a douche for this. Iv been registered here longer than you yes but i dont have to follow the crowd and accept any terms, most guys on here are utter nerds and computer geeks, as are you id imagine. hush now junior

tjmidnight420 03-25-2010 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HBPunk (Post 2994933)
You gave a nickname to something that is THREE letters long, you are a douche for this. Iv been registered here longer than you yes but i dont have to follow the crowd and accept any terms, most guys on here are utter nerds and computer geeks, as are you id imagine. hush now junior


bitch please....:foc:

I'm a nerd, and a computer geek. This is a wrestling forum. If you don't like what's said around here, feel free to delete your account and go join up with the WWE universe, you fucking mark.

Juan 03-25-2010 06:31 PM

You both should shut the fuck up.

Xero 03-25-2010 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAdamEvansFan (Post 2994775)
38,815 posts by XERO. Worthy resume material right there. This guy knows his wrestling. Everyone bow down.

One of Adam Evan's only fans is his mother.

This is not an insult, just fact.

HBPunk 03-25-2010 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjmidnight420 (Post 2994959)
bitch please....:foc:

I'm a nerd, and a computer geek. This is a wrestling forum. If you don't like what's said around here, feel free to delete your account and go join up with the WWE universe, you fucking mark.

oh oh, doorbell tjmidnight420, its Aunt Flow. 420 my balls, that is all:kiss:

Kane Knight 03-25-2010 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kareru (Post 2994695)
that just says it all right there

Except it's really an artificial distinction.

And TNA's reslly still trying for "sports entertainment," even if they do have high fliers and blood.

Xero 03-25-2010 06:41 PM

Fliers and blood ARE Sports Entertainment.

Wishbone 03-25-2010 06:51 PM

this is why WWE fails IMO I mean they are a wrestling business even if they don't want to admit it yet they have almost no wrestling! That would be like Disney not making mindnumbing child sitcoms about crappy singers it goes against what your trying to sell. Sure TNA's not much better but atleast they admit to being a wrestling business even if they don't always deliver! Truthfully I don't think any current 'wrestling company' or 'sports entertainment company' is worth a damn atleast not compared to the WWF and WCW I grew up on.

Swiss Ultimate 03-25-2010 07:42 PM

I don't think the culture wants what TNA is dishing out. However, I think a lot of people would enjoy a more adult-oriented version of what the WWE is producing. TNA's product, however, doesn't deliver anything remotely as deep as ECW or as compelling as WWE.

:(

SOCCER LEGS 03-25-2010 08:52 PM

most of you are missing the point that mcmahon is driving at.

our culture is obsessed with pop culture. the WWE has been slowly and surely gaining more of a foothold into the mainstream. a couple examples of this are the celebrity guest hosts they've been having on RAW, and the WWE's expansion of the diva's division to make the show more appealing to women. the closer the WWE is to the vein of the mainstream, the more appealing the show is to the average person.

basically, Vince's vision of the WWE is a show that can keep the entire family entertained, rather than a show that is meant for pro wrestling fans.


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