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Xero 04-08-2010 06:29 PM

Why would SmackDown! or TNA going live make it better?
 
Seriously? I just don't understand the logic here. It seems this comes up and it's apparently a way to make the product better somehow. Why?

The ONLY argument here is the possibility of spoilers and ratings drop, which would only affect you if you don't have the self control to not read them.

As for ratings, I'm a firm believer that spoilers do not affect ratings as much as people think. A tenth of a point, MAYBE. But most people don't go out of their way to read spoilers, as they don't go out of their way to read TV show spoilers.

Please explain what makes live so much better than a taped show, which is cheaper to produce with the same writing and talent.

Juan 04-08-2010 06:31 PM

I think Smackdown is just fine the way it is.

HBPunk 04-08-2010 06:31 PM

cos its live, the feeling is different. its unpredictable. this is quite moronic stuff from you man, id expect much much better

Xero 04-08-2010 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by HBPunk (Post 3017477)
cos its live, the feeling is different. its unpredictable. this is quite moronic stuff from you man, id expect much much better

How is it more unpredictable if you haven't read the spoilers? In what way?

I just can't see the difference.

Triple A 04-08-2010 06:36 PM

It is unpredictable because if something "huge" happens at a live taping, chances are you will hear about it somehow even if you try to avoid spoilers.

Live shows definitely have a different feel.

HBPunk 04-08-2010 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3017479)
How is it more unpredictable if you haven't read the spoilers? In what way?

I just can't see the difference.

Because its happening that very second, it just feels different. Thats it, bischoff says the same thing in The MNW DVD. I hate watching Raw on tape so I watch it live every week and cant be arsed with smackdown most the time

Xero 04-08-2010 06:39 PM

Just don't see that as a legitimate argument for this and the overall production. It's the same product either way.

Especially considering we're a VERY small minority in WWE's audience. The people who read dirt sheets probably amount to maybe .3 or .4 of the rating, if that. Less people read them regularly. And that .4 accounts for tens of thousands of people as it is.

The Franchise 04-08-2010 06:39 PM

It would make the show slightly better because of the unpredictable thing but the storylines and matches ultimately decide the quality of a show.

Smackdown won't go live because of the travel issue. Maybe when the brand split was actually enforced and people rarely showed up on the other show (2003-2006) this was possible. I think it would be too much of a hassle unless SD is live on Tuesday.

HBPunk 04-08-2010 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3017490)
Just don't see that as a legitimate argument for this and the overall production. It's the same product either way.

Yeah cos your so busy criticising every aspect of wrestling that you stopped being a fan years ago, you are a critic now. It is a fucking legitimate argument, nothing to do with fucking dirt sheets, i never mentioned them. IM SPEAKING AS A FAN, can you grasp that?

The MAC 04-08-2010 06:45 PM

when it comes to tna going live on certain events is fine but impact should be taped and they should fix the fuck ups and edit out stupidity, but then they might have nothing left afterwards.

Live pros: unpredictable, low amount of spoilers, maybe a tittie will flash

live cons: more fuckups, no re-takes, technical difficulties can bring the show to a halt, botches cant be edited out.

Xero 04-08-2010 06:46 PM

I see no difference between taped and live. I'm saying that as a fan.

And as a fan, you shouldn't see it as different either, because the way the produce it is exactly the same as if it's live. So if you were looking at this as a fan, there should be no real difference.

HBPunk 04-08-2010 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3017500)
I see no difference between taped and live. I'm saying that as a fan.

And as a fan, you shouldn't see it as different either, because the way the produce it is exactly the same as if it's live. So if you were looking at this as a fan, there should be no real difference.

wel iv always gotten way more excited for live raw or a live ppv so sorry but you are just being a stubborn prick. there is a difference, simple as

Juan 04-08-2010 06:51 PM

Hey look, HBPunk being a dick to someone he disagrees with. Shocking.

The Franchise 04-08-2010 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3017500)
I see no difference between taped and live. I'm saying that as a fan.

And as a fan, you shouldn't see it as different either, because the way the produce it is exactly the same as if it's live. So if you were looking at this as a fan, there should be no real difference.

Yeah if you don't read spoilers then there is no difference. I didn't even know Smackdown was taped until like 2004

HBPunk 04-08-2010 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Juan (Post 3017506)
Hey look, HBPunk being a dick to someone he disagrees with. Shocking.

i was told my opinion was wrong dude, i dont lie back and take it

HBPunk 04-08-2010 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Juan (Post 3017506)
Hey look, HBPunk being a dick to someone he disagrees with. Shocking.

maybe im pissed cos some homophobe keeps deleting my thread!you and your power trip, got your nose up my ass since i joined

Juan 04-08-2010 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by HBPunk (Post 3017522)
maybe im pissed cos some homophobe keeps deleting my thread!you and your power trip, got your nose up my ass since i joined

Maybe you should leave then.

HBPunk 04-08-2010 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Juan (Post 3017527)
Maybe you should leave then.

ooooohhh big bully, were u bullied in real life? iv every right to be here

ImpactPlayer365 04-08-2010 07:06 PM

Well its like the Swagger title win...i try to avoid spoilers just to make watching Smackdown that much better, but even when you try to avoid them, the news is so big that some idiots cant contain themselves and make it apparent to everyone on the main page and in six different forums what had happened.

But being taped helps with backstage skits and promo's. Either way Smackdown is the better show to watch whether live or taped. The show has to stand on its own merrit no matter what.

Juan 04-08-2010 07:07 PM

Yeah, I used to get beat up and have my lunch money stolen every day. Now I'm making up for it by moderating a wrestling message board.

Londoner 04-08-2010 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Juan (Post 3017544)
Yeah, I used to get beat up and have my lunch money stolen every day. Now I'm making up for it by moderating a wrestling message board.

Now that's a way to get revenge!

HBPunk 04-08-2010 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Juan (Post 3017544)
Yeah, I used to get beat up and have my lunch money stolen every day. Now I'm making up for it by moderating a wrestling message board.

thought so, well can you quit fuckin following me or do u wanna ask me out?

HBPunk 04-08-2010 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TL (Post 3017548)
Now that's a way to get revenge!

makes sense tho since fat computer geeks are easy targets

Favre4Ever 04-08-2010 07:12 PM

I think a live Smackdown! show would have to be on a different network. On MyNetworkTV, it's gonna get what it's getting regardless.

Juan 04-08-2010 07:14 PM

I'll quit 'following you around' when you stop making shitty posts and stop being a douche bag to anyone you disagree with.

HBPunk 04-08-2010 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Juan (Post 3017556)
I'll quit 'following you around' when you stop making shitty posts and stop being a douche bag to anyone you disagree with.

which post was shitty? mine are always much more entertaining that yours, and when people piss me off ill fuck them out of it, so have a word with them too. see you have so much 'power' here, you are loving it

Juan 04-08-2010 07:18 PM

*yawn*

HBPunk 04-08-2010 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Juan (Post 3017569)
*yawn*

you give a bad name to mario lopez sir

Kane Knight 04-08-2010 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 3017491)
It would make the show slightly better because of the unpredictable thing but the storylines and matches ultimately decide the quality of a show.

Smackdown won't go live because of the travel issue. Maybe when the brand split was actually enforced and people rarely showed up on the other show (2003-2006) this was possible. I think it would be too much of a hassle unless SD is live on Tuesday.

Smackdown won't go live because it's on Network TV, as well. Too many things could go wrong for the Network for them to put a prime time wrestling show live.

Londoner 04-08-2010 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 3017556)
I'll quit 'following you around' when you stop making shitty posts and stop being a douche bag to anyone you disagree with.

I wouldn't worry about him, i find him too funny to take his insults seriously.:D

HBPunk 04-08-2010 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TL (Post 3017587)
I wouldn't worry about him, i find him too funny to take his insults seriously.:D

Thank you, im wretchedly entertaining

Nicky Fives 04-08-2010 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 3017476)
I think Smackdown is just fine the way it is.

yup... going live doesn't really matter...... plus it would screw with their schedule of Live events

Londoner 04-08-2010 07:36 PM

Smackdowns been live once or twice before hasn't it? Or am i imagining things?

HBPunk 04-08-2010 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL (Post 3017595)
Smackdowns been live once or twice before hasn't it? Or am i imagining things?

you are indeed

Londoner 04-08-2010 07:39 PM

Sure it went live once before, must be wrong.

Juan 04-08-2010 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL (Post 3017595)
Smackdowns been live once or twice before hasn't it? Or am i imagining things?

Yeah they've done a handful of live eps over the past 10 years

Steveviscious89 04-08-2010 07:47 PM

How is it cheaper? You have to pay people in the editing room don't you?

I have to agree with Bischoff's point of view on this, and maybe this doesn't apply to Xero. Most viewers are lured to the idea of a 'live' show. They get to experience the action at the same time (minus the five or seven second delay) as the people in the crowd. It's like you are being a part of it. I think that's what HBPunk is trying to say here.

HBPunk 04-08-2010 07:47 PM

2?

HBPunk 04-08-2010 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steveviscious89 (Post 3017608)
How is it cheaper? You have to pay people in the editing room don't you?

I have to agree with Bischoff's point of view on this, and maybe this doesn't apply to Xero. Most viewers are lured to the idea of a 'live' show. They get to experience the action at the same time (minus the five or seven second delay) as the people in the crowd. It's like you are being a part of it. I think that's what HBPunk is trying to say here.

well i wasn't trying to say it, i did say it and you're repeating it but i agree with you..and myself

Xero 04-08-2010 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steveviscious89 (Post 3017608)
How is it cheaper? You have to pay people in the editing room don't you?

Live satellite time is apparently a lot more expensive than just beaming it to the network as a pre-tape.


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