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Rollermacka 04-10-2010 12:31 PM

Let's do another "A*holes of the ring" thread
 
It's been alittle while since we have talked about who is either dificult to work with backstage or sloppy in the ring, lets throw some names out there. Besides the obvious ones, I have reciently heard that Ahmed Johnson, The Jackyl/ Cyrus and Johnny the Bull (that's killer spelled backwards) were all a*holes. Ahmed allegedly walked out of the WWE because he didnt want to put people over and durring his short stay in WCW he made demands even though he kept putting on weight. I've read that Johnny kept asking for more money and had a "bad attitude" durring his time in TNA and AAA. Cyrus is one that I reciently heard was alot like JBL backstage. He had a bullying personality alot like JBL. Who are some other names that you have heard were like that in wrestling?

Indifferent Clox 04-10-2010 12:37 PM

Hornswoggle is apparently quite the merry prankster, i heard he spiked some dudes cereal with acid

Mr. Nerfect 04-10-2010 12:57 PM

I'm actually not that familiar with Cyrus. I remember him being tall, and being touted as a great commentator, but he didn't really seem big enough to get away with being a complete cunt in the world of professional wrestling.

Hardcore Holly and Bubba Ray Dudley immediately sprang to mind. Holly I used to be a mark for, and I have a tremendous amount of respect for (dude almost died and came back to wrestling), and Bubba is a really good promo and has been apart of some great matches -- but the two are apparently REALLY hard to work with. Conversely, apparently D-Von is a sweetheart.

I read somewhere that Jesse & Festus were assholes when they met a WWE fan somewhere. Not sure if it's true, but it wouldn't surprise me. Jesse has the pedigree to have arrogance, and Gallows, despite being really good at playing a character, reminds me of some guy I know -- and that dude is a complete cunt.

CSL 04-10-2010 01:01 PM

I doubt the Callis/Cyrus one is true considering how much shit 'the boys' gave him during his WWE tenure. Then again maybe that was the reason.

kareru 04-10-2010 01:30 PM

obviously new jack, i would constitute stabbing other wrestlers multiple times and trying to murder them by purposely throwing them the wrong way on a massive 60ft bump or legit kicking shit out of a 70 year old wrestler just because he wouldn't sell, quite the asshole maneuver.

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CSL 04-10-2010 01:34 PM

Just because he wouldn't sell? If I was New Jack, I'd have beaten the fucking piss out of him too.

kareru 04-10-2010 01:39 PM

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Rammsteinmad 04-10-2010 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 3019874)
Hardcore Holly and Bubba Ray Dudley immediately sprang to mind. Holly I used to be a mark for, and I have a tremendous amount of respect for (dude almost died and came back to wrestling), and Bubba is a really good promo and has been apart of some great matches -- but the two are apparently REALLY hard to work with. Conversely, apparently D-Von is a sweetheart.

I met the Dudleys at a signing back in 2004, and whilst Bubba came across as a complete asshole who couldn't give a fuck, D-Von came across as a very caring, legit human being. He seemed really happy to be there and when he thanked me for coming (y'know, after the signing etc as you do), he sounded so geniune and happy to have fans etc. Really nice guy.

Just thought I'd add that to justify what you said.

jskinnyg 04-10-2010 04:45 PM

Umm.. The Ultimate Loser, I mean Warrior...

KIRA 04-10-2010 05:26 PM

I met Raven at a Walmart signing he was really nice and could talk forever if you get into the right subjects i.e. Neil Gaiman comics

Conversely Sunny comes across as a total bitch dunno if she was having a bad day or what

voncouch 04-11-2010 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 3019935)
I met the Dudleys at a signing back in 2004, and whilst Bubba came across as a complete asshole who couldn't give a fuck, D-Von came across as a very caring, legit human being. He seemed really happy to be there and when he thanked me for coming (y'know, after the signing etc as you do), he sounded so geniune and happy to have fans etc. Really nice guy.

I know a guy who's trained with the Dudleys at their camp. From what he said, Bubba can be either cool or a dick, depending on the day. He can be a complete hard ass, then take the boys out to the bar and pay for a few hundred dollars worth of beer and hot wings. So I don't know about him as far as fan interaction, but he can have his giving side too.

But again, he did mention D-Von is always a great guy.

Vastardikai 04-11-2010 06:05 AM

I've witnessed a bit of both Bubba Rays.

1. Him singing "Take me Home Tonight" while swiping a poorly placed bottle of Jager was awesome.

2. An hour later, Indy guy was being a disrespectful prick, so Bubba approached him on the street with Devon and their friends. I seriously thought the dude was gonna shit himself as Bubba told him off. He was definitely crying. That was kind of prickish.

Mr. Nerfect 04-11-2010 07:28 AM

At least Bubba only told him off, and didn't try to murder the guy. New Jack is legit psychotic.

tjmidnight420 04-11-2010 01:44 PM

New Jack isn't an asshole of the ring, he's just deplorable, and a really sorry excuse for a human being.

CSL 04-11-2010 03:05 PM

New Jack is the man.

Rollermacka 04-11-2010 07:11 PM

I guess it's debateable but would somebody who was extremely stiff like Vader or Bam Bamm be considered in this category? I watch some of Vader's matches and the way he would throw guys over the top rope, chokeslam guys even durring his mid 90's WWE run looked painful for the opponent. I read somewhere that Bam Bamm refused to put over guys in his late WCW run. I've also read that he got sloppy and stiff durring that time too.

Lavel 04-11-2010 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3021242)
New Jack is the man.

I agree if Gypsy Joe didn't want the shit beat out of him he should of sold the moves.

tjmidnight420 04-12-2010 02:05 AM

what about stabbing a motherfucker during a wrestling match... is that cool too?

Lock Jaw 04-12-2010 02:07 AM

It's not only cool... it's...

http://slam.canoe.ca/WrestlingImages..._00handout.jpg

tjmidnight420 04-12-2010 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 3022199)

I guess I asked for that one...:rofl:

Blitz 04-12-2010 02:16 AM

Have had some dealings with Cyrus, not an asshole at all that I've seen.

Blitz 04-12-2010 02:17 AM

Also easily one of the most underrated commentators/performers in the history of the business.

Mr. Nerfect 04-12-2010 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lavel666 (Post 3021805)
I agree if Gypsy Joe didn't want the shit beat out of him he should of sold the moves.

Yeah -- that totally warrants him having everything in the building thrown at him, as well as the endangered welfares of the audience members themselves.

kareru 04-12-2010 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rollermacka (Post 3021552)
I guess it's debateable but would somebody who was extremely stiff like Vader or Bam Bamm be considered in this category? I watch some of Vader's matches and the way he would throw guys over the top rope, chokeslam guys even durring his mid 90's WWE run looked painful for the opponent. I read somewhere that Bam Bamm refused to put over guys in his late WCW run. I've also read that he got sloppy and stiff durring that time too.

defiantly not bam bam, the guy saved 3 children from a burning house and suffered major burns in the process, that deserves major respect.

kareru 04-12-2010 07:09 AM

ooh i could use that in another thread

Ol Dirty Dastard 04-12-2010 01:14 PM

If I was a legit pro wrestler and I was forced into wrestling New Jack, I'd have a set of brass knucks just in case, so I could knock him the fuck out if he got too unruly. Or I'd kick him in the nuts and bail.

Jordan 04-12-2010 01:50 PM

I can't wait til one day somebody, I don't care who... SOMEBODY goes psycho and fucks New Jack up so back he can't even walk. Fuck that piece of shit. He has a history of being the biggest dickhead in the ring. Mass Transit, backstage beating people with batons, now this shit... FUCK HIM. I want to see him get crippled by some bad ass. I want to see his fucking nose smashed all over his face, I want to see that mother fucker cry.

What a cunt piece of shit mother fucker.

PLEASE if any indy wrestler reads this shit, shoot on him when you wrestle, fuck him up please!

Jordan 04-12-2010 01:52 PM

Vader came from a time when stiff was acceptable, plus he had a lot exposure in Japan where that is how it is. Also I have heard only good things about him as a person.

Bam Bam, well he probably had some ego problems being in the ME at WM 10, and then nothing happened afterwards except ECW, so I'd say you could expect a little attitude out of him.

Innovator 04-12-2010 02:09 PM

Holly tried to stiff and deadweight Brock...yeah that turned out great for him.

Loose Cannon 04-12-2010 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 3019935)
I met the Dudleys at a signing back in 2004, and whilst Bubba came across as a complete asshole who couldn't give a fuck, D-Von came across as a very caring, legit human being. He seemed really happy to be there and when he thanked me for coming (y'know, after the signing etc as you do), he sounded so geniune and happy to have fans etc. Really nice guy.

Just thought I'd add that to justify what you said.

While in ECW, D-von lived right up the block from me in NY. The first time I met him, he was just hanging out outside on his balcony of his apartment on the 2nd floor. And my friend new I watched and new D-Von, so he mentioned I was wreslting and he started having a conversaiton with me. very nice guy. I was like 11 or 12 at the time

Rollermacka 04-12-2010 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kareru (Post 3022277)
defiantly not bam bam, the guy saved 3 children from a burning house and suffered major burns in the process, that deserves major respect.

I would never put a man like Bam Bam in the same category as Holly or New Jack, then again I dont think even Holly belongs in the same category as New Jack. Like I said, when he came back near the end of WCW I had heard that he was very dificult to work with backstage. I also heard that there were acouple of storyline that they were gonna use to help some of the younger guys over but he refused to lose. I've heard nothing but great things about him out of the ring though

CSL 04-12-2010 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 3022557)
I can't wait til one day somebody, I don't care who... SOMEBODY goes psycho and fucks New Jack up so back he can't even walk. Fuck that piece of shit. He has a history of being the biggest dickhead in the ring. Mass Transit, backstage beating people with batons, now this shit... FUCK HIM. I want to see him get crippled by some bad ass. I want to see his fucking nose smashed all over his face, I want to see that mother fucker cry.

What a cunt piece of shit mother fucker.

PLEASE if any indy wrestler reads this shit, shoot on him when you wrestle, fuck him up please!

lol

weather vane 04-12-2010 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blitz (Post 3022202)
Have had some dealings with Cyrus, not an asshole at all that I've seen.


Supreme Olajuwon 04-13-2010 02:00 PM

I remember watching 101 Reasons Not to Be a Pro Wrestler and being shocked at how cool New Jack came off considering all the stories. Didn't seem like a dick at all. Seemed like a hardcore alcoholic but that's about it.

Savio 04-13-2010 02:02 PM

Let's do ANOTHER "A*holes of the ring" thread
 
Just because.

kareru 04-13-2010 02:05 PM

wtf?

Savio 04-13-2010 02:06 PM

:heart:

Lock Jaw 04-13-2010 02:11 PM

Here is a hole of the ring:

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tjmidnight420 04-13-2010 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3021242)
New Jack is the man.

Because CSL said so.

CSL 04-13-2010 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 3024153)
I remember watching 101 Reasons Not to Be a Pro Wrestler and being shocked at how cool New Jack came off considering all the stories. Didn't seem like a dick at all. Seemed like a hardcore alcoholic but that's about it.

Yeah, he's entertaining as fuck on that. On the Forever Hardcore DVD as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjmidnight420 (Post 3024175)
Because CSL said so.

Amen.


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