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Hanso Amore 04-14-2010 12:19 AM

If Brock hits that SSP
 
Greatest WM moment ever?

The Franchise 04-14-2010 12:40 AM

Top 44 easy

The MAC 04-14-2010 12:50 AM

baw gawd!

Jeritron 04-14-2010 12:54 AM

No. It's probably more memorable that he botched it than if he hit it. It would have been great, but I don't think a move would ever be the greatest moment ever.

Xero 04-14-2010 12:55 AM

It would have been on the Mania replays, for sure.

And wouldn't overshadow what what was a really awesome match.

Juan 04-14-2010 12:58 AM

I hate that the botched SSP always overshadows how amazing that match was. Stupid internet.

Jeritron 04-14-2010 01:01 AM

Well it was quite a memorable thing. It was the finish, after all. That's usually what people remember most. Unfortunately people remember it negatively, when the match was awesome

Mr Amazing 04-14-2010 01:02 AM

him missing ssp is in my top 20 favourite moments in wrestlmania histroy if he hit the move it would not make my top 50

Xero 04-14-2010 01:04 AM

I have to wonder if Brock hit it if he'd have used it on semi-regular basis or only bust it out once in a great while.

Did he do it in Japan?

Jeritron 04-14-2010 01:04 AM

I thought Booker T hitting the Harlem Hangover was almost as awesome

Mr Amazing 04-14-2010 01:06 AM

i also throught that if angle didn't have a broken neck the match could of went a extra 10mins

Jeritron 04-14-2010 01:08 AM

It would have been nice if Lesnar didn't leave, because a Mania match with HBK would have been better

The Franchise 04-14-2010 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3025198)
I have to wonder if Brock hit it if he'd have used it on semi-regular basis or only bust it out once in a great while.

Did he do it in Japan?

Don't think so. Mania was the only time he busted it out, IIRC. There's a video of him doing it perfectly in OVW or something.

Xero 04-14-2010 01:10 AM

Yeah, this is the video that's been circulating for years.

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I remember seeing it before he even debuted.

Had Angle only been about 5 feet closer....

The Franchise 04-14-2010 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 3025203)
It would have been nice if Lesnar didn't leave, because a Mania match with HBK would have been better

Would have been off the charts. HBK is the perfect size opponent for Brock as he was always great in the role of the monster heel vs the little underdog. Remember his match with Eddie Guerrero at No way out 2004? One of the best matches I've ever seen

Xero 04-14-2010 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Amazing (Post 3025201)
i also throught that if angle didn't have a broken neck the match could of went a extra 10mins

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Says right in the first few moments that it was cut 10 minutes.

The whole video is relevant to this thread.

Jeritron 04-14-2010 01:33 AM

I wonder who Brock was going to face at Mania if Angle wrestled his last match the week before. That's interesting

The Franchise 04-14-2010 01:35 AM

Cool :y:

Pretty crazy how good that match was considering Angle's condition and Lesnar being so nervous. Austin was hurt as hell during his match too and that was also really good. Looking back, Wrestlemania 19 could have been really ugly if Angle, Austin or Lesnar were seriously hurt in the ring.

BollywoodSingh 04-14-2010 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 3025230)
I wonder who Brock was going to face at Mania if Angle wrestled his last match the week before. That's interesting

I think the rumours were pointing to a Lesnar vs. Benoit match.

Volare 04-14-2010 02:27 AM

We needed Joey Styles for that match, just think when Lesnar jacked the SSP and you hear....



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St. Jimmy 04-14-2010 03:43 AM

Lesnar once stated that missing the SSP made him realize how much he could get hurt in wrestling. Had he not botched it, he may still be wrestling today.

Anybody Thrilla 04-14-2010 08:41 AM

Good thing he got into MMA, where he can't be hurt at all. :y:

NoRoolz 04-14-2010 09:08 AM

lol

NoRoolz 04-14-2010 09:09 AM

If he'd have hit it properly it would have been a greater but maybe less-talked about moment, similar to WMX HBK splash off the top of the ladder.

...HBK :(

Hanso Amore 04-14-2010 09:44 AM

I honestly think that would be a classic moment.

Imagine I guess finishes usually arent as remembered as the match itself though.

Wolfpack423 04-14-2010 11:32 AM

The thing about the SSP is he can do it very well in my opinion and the problem was Angle was too far out, if he was a little closer to the turnbuckle it would have been fine. Brock maybe should have tried to go for the cover and then moved him closer, but Brock is still one of my all time favorites.

Krimzon7 04-14-2010 11:50 AM

That SSP was awesome, just to see that amount of mass busting out such a Cruiserweight move.... dammit.

Mr Amazing 04-14-2010 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 3025205)
Don't think so. Mania was the only time he busted it out, IIRC. There's a video of him doing it perfectly in OVW or something.

i believe he hit one on sunday night heat before he debut on raw back in 2002

Xero 04-14-2010 01:18 PM

Just realized there's no video of the botch in this thread. That's unacceptable.

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While Kurt was too far out, you can see Brock have that hesitation mid-air Kurt talked about in the shoot I posted. It's like he started the spin, stopped and then continued. It was almost like he did a flipping frog splash. He may have made it had he had the proper rotation.

Fox 04-14-2010 10:43 PM

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Xero 04-14-2010 10:45 PM

Wow, never knew that footage existed. Awesome.

Theo Dious 04-14-2010 10:51 PM

I just want to say, seeing Angle beat Lesnar in Pittsburgh by switching with Eric was teh best thing I have ever witnessed live as far as wrestling goes.

Mr Amazing 04-14-2010 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox (Post 3026894)
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this was the one i was talking about my bad it was a dark match through

Volare 04-14-2010 10:58 PM

It looks like they paired up Lesnar with Benjamin...both from the U of Minnesota thank you very much.


I wonder if they paired Shelton with Lesnar as a tag team if it would've worked out.

Volare 04-14-2010 11:04 PM

Here's another Dark Match with Lesnar...and look who he's with. Nice little match here.

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Xero 04-14-2010 11:11 PM

lol H2O Waterman. I remember seeing him at a RAW for a dark match. Wonder what happened to him.

Anybody Thrilla 04-14-2010 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volare (Post 3026912)
It looks like they paired up Lesnar with Benjamin...both from the U of Minnesota thank you very much.


I wonder if they paired Shelton with Lesnar as a tag team if it would've worked out.

On EWR, they were listed as a tag team called The Minnesota Wrecking Crew. Was that not a real team?

Fignuts 04-15-2010 12:14 AM

I was real.

Anybody Thrilla 04-15-2010 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3027041)
I was real.

I never doubted you were, bud.

Xero 04-15-2010 12:24 AM

lol


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