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Johnny McNasty 05-02-2010 11:58 AM

Mr. Anderson great heel or greatest heel of all time?
 
Wow what a 360 this dude has done. He is definitely the best thing going for TNA right now. The man has been a mega heel ever since debuting, and picking the fight with Kurt Angle. His and Angles feud have been the highlight of the past few months PPV's and Impacts. Leading to lockdown where I believe he was made into a superstar after him and Kurt put on imo the best match of the year so far. The bloody two gun salute he gave while in the cage, was reminiscent of a young bloody Austin locked in the sharpshooter, but refusing to give up. It was a defining moment.

If Anderson can keep up this momentum he has been building since debuting in TNA he is going to be huge. Putting him in the path of The Pope is an awesome move by TNA, as D'Angelo is another superstar that is on a career high right now. Can't wait to see what these two guys can do in this program together.

Go ahead and discuss how awesome Ken Anderson is in this thread if you wish.

Razzamajazz 05-02-2010 12:05 PM

i don't watch tna so i don't give a shit

Johnny McNasty 05-02-2010 12:08 PM

Your loss.

Perry Saturn 05-02-2010 12:17 PM

Wait are you talking about his tna gimmick which is the exact same as his wwe except saying "Mr. Anderson" instead of "Mr.Kennedy"?

Johnny McNasty 05-02-2010 12:26 PM

Nah he has completely upped his game since coming to TNA. This dude went from having people chant "you can't wrestle" and "overrated" at his debut, to putting on one of the best matches in recent memory a couple months later. He still is the outspoken dick head, but he is much more brutal and intelligent now. That goes for in the ring, and on the mic.

Perry Saturn 05-02-2010 12:27 PM

it seems the exact same to me

Johnny McNasty 05-02-2010 12:41 PM

I don't see how your able to see it that way, but oh well.

They are two different wrestlers to me. You have Mr. Kennedy from WWE. Who came in and was pretty good on the mic, and capable in the ring. But he quickly became stale, and known as the guy who says his name twice. Then came the injuries that where always popping up,(which lead to his being let go) plus the Wellness policy violation did him no favors..

Then you have the Mr. Anderson in TNA. Who is out to make his second shot in the business count for something. He has been stellar since his debut, put on some great matches, and had an entertaining feud. His character is amazing right now, as he is a larger than life asshole, but he makes it believable. Like I said in the first post, if he can keep this momentum up he will be huge.

thedamndest 05-02-2010 12:50 PM

Does he still say his name twice?

Jordan 05-02-2010 01:00 PM

I just watched the match and it was pretty good. Nothing we haven't seen before, but it was good. Anderson isn't a great wrestler at all, but he can take an ass kicking and is good on the mic. Angle on the other hand, old hat.

VSG 05-02-2010 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny McNasty (Post 3051167)
Then you have the Mr. Anderson in TNA. Who is out to make his second shot in the business count for something. He has been stellar since his debut, put on some great matches, and had an entertaining feud. His character is amazing right now, as he is a larger than life asshole, but he makes it believable. Like I said in the first post, if he can keep this momentum up he will be huge.

What about matches without Angle involved?

Next Big Thing 05-02-2010 01:26 PM

Neither. He's just one green turd in the pile of brown shit that is TNA. That's the only reason why he stands out.

erickman 05-02-2010 01:34 PM

i think the best heel on tna now is matt morgan so no.

Joesgonnakillyou 05-02-2010 01:49 PM

Neither. He's pretty useless.

Johnny McNasty 05-02-2010 01:54 PM

He had a pretty good match with Pope at the wild card stud finals. Decent enough matches against Abyss. Plus all of his encounters with Angle where great, and a lot of that was due to their intense rivalry.


I have to say that Mr. Anderson is putting on a better performance than C.M. Punk as far being a heel goes.

Johnny McNasty 05-02-2010 01:55 PM

Double post

TNA&USA#1 05-02-2010 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Razzamajazz (Post 3051118)
i don't watch tna so i don't give a shit

Yes you're too busy giving a shit about how hilarious those Raw guests hosts are and how John Cena can possibly overcome his latest obstacle while making it look like he's even trying!

TNA&USA#1 05-02-2010 01:59 PM

Kennedy has been great recently. Now maybe his debut wasn't solid, but he's more than picked up the slack lately. Too bad the WWE fanboys can't admit that they'd rather watch the same old crap on Raw than the exciting new material on Impact!

kareru 05-02-2010 01:59 PM

he's a great heel but not the best of all time, he's probably the only heel in tna at the moment that all of the crowd boo

Johnny McNasty 05-02-2010 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kareru (Post 3051245)
he's a great heel but not the best of all time, he's probably the only heel in tna at the moment that all of the crowd boo

That right there should count for something. The TNA Impact crowds can't seem to consistently hate on anyone, yet they boo the shit out of Anderson.

erickman 05-02-2010 02:09 PM

they all hate on orlando or chant this is creepy when he comes out.

DarKCentaur 05-02-2010 02:10 PM

Anderson has indeed been awesome in TNA, though you're right, he hasn't done much besides a program with Angle (which will make ANYONE look like gold). If he can carry the Pope to an awesome match, then I'll be sold that Anderson is the best heel TNA has.

Jordan 05-02-2010 02:19 PM

Why the random comparison to CM Punk?

Nark Order 05-02-2010 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TNA&USA#1 (Post 3051240)
Yes you're too busy giving a shit about how hilarious those Raw guests hosts are and how John Cena can possibly overcome his latest obstacle while making it look like he's even trying!

lol. I'll never get tired of passionate TNAtards.

KIRA 05-02-2010 04:34 PM

Quote:

I have to say that Mr. Anderson is putting on a better performance than C.M. Punk as far being a heel goes.
I wasn't going to get involved until this comment. You must be joking

St. Jimmy 05-02-2010 04:35 PM

He's actually terrible. Even Lance Storm made note of this. Keep up, buddy.

TheAdamEvansFan 05-02-2010 04:57 PM

He's not a great heel.

He is a face on FACEBOOK. Good heels are like Cm Punk who play their role in real life.

Ken is only known for injuring people! NEWEST VICTIM = KURT ANGLE.

Ultra Mantis 05-02-2010 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kareru (Post 3051245)
He's probably the only heel in tna at the moment


MoFo 05-02-2010 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by St. Jimmy (Post 3051471)
He's actually terrible. Even Lance Storm made note of this. Keep up, buddy.


KIRA 05-02-2010 06:32 PM

A few things here 1.As stated Morgan is a far more effedtive and intresting heel than Anderson right now.

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Originally Posted by DarKCentaur (Post 3051264)
Anderson has indeed been awesome in TNA, though you're right, he hasn't done much besides a program with Angle (which will make ANYONE look like gold). If he can carry the Pope to an awesome match, then I'll be sold that Anderson is the best heel TNA has.

2. If he can carry the Pope? I guess provided he doesn't break Popes arms and legs in the process of "carrying" him

3. Anderson just isn't that interesting IMO, anybody can be a loud, obnoxious overbearing asshole but CM Punk is both subtlety and overtly creepy he switches between these masterfully. His facial expressions are unnerving his Sermons are oddly inspiring yet they are heat machines.

Hes an extremely accomplished wrestler/entertainer

all without being a loud, boisterous, asshole
I could go on about the tiny nuances in his character for days

bottom line there is no comparison between he and Anderson.

Jakob Synn 05-02-2010 06:35 PM

Just wait till he gets injured.

Juan 05-02-2010 06:39 PM

lol @ "greatest heel of all time"

James Steele 05-02-2010 06:45 PM

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/3461/sheeple.jpg

.44 Magdalene 05-02-2010 06:52 PM

There's hyperbole, and then there's exaggeration.

Most threads see the former, but I don't know about this one

FourFifty 05-02-2010 07:07 PM

Anderson isn't a real person. He is a muppet. He is a product of Jim Henson productions.

screech 05-02-2010 07:10 PM

I have always been a fan of his. Good worker, good on the mic and I just generally enjoy watching him.

That said, although he is much better as a heel than as a face, he is definitely not the greatest heel of all time.

Johnny McNasty 05-02-2010 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 3051276)
Why the random comparison to CM Punk?

He is the top heel of the rival promotion imo. Punk is awesome no doubt he plays a refreshing heel, and he's got his own stable. Still if you compare these last few months between the two I give it to Anderson. As he has been pushed pretty hard since debuting, hell his first ppv he made it to the finals of 8 man tournament. Then went straight into a entertaining program with Angle, in which he held his own through out. Punk has been paired against Mysterio, which hasn't been too exciting to be honest. I don't blame Punk for this though, as Mysterio isn't someone you can bounce your personality off of. Plus their last match wasn't that good either, at least not as good as you would expect from those two. So yeah Mr. Anderson is the shit right now.

Actually now that I think about it, Punk wouldn't be my pick for top heel in WWE. Probably give it to Batista or Jericho, but he is still up there. Definitely top 5.

Favre4Ever 05-02-2010 08:51 PM

no poll so i don't care.

Johnny Vegas 05-02-2010 09:14 PM

Given that Punk has to deal with a PG audience and format, i'd say that Punk and Anderson are an unfair comparison. Even with this though, i'd still give it to Punk.

I've seen Anderson, and he's good, but just imagine him trying to pull half of the stuff he does in the WWEPG

Johnny McNasty 05-02-2010 09:24 PM

Yeah, but what would Punk be doing if it was Tv-14 or whatever it use to be. I still see him doing his schtick the same no matter what, as he has it down to perfection. I give it to Punk in the long run definitely, as he has been mostly golden since his heel turn. Just when comparing these last months or so between the two I got to go with my boy, as Anderson has been on a hell of a roll.

Johnny McNasty 05-02-2010 09:33 PM

I do agree with you though in that not being stuck under the PG rating has helped Anderson out a lot. I found this promo of his to be pretty good, and its something you probably wouldn't see on WWE anymore.

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