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mitchables 05-09-2010 02:19 AM

the great comic book clash, issue 3: knights in satan's service
 
our fashion-impaired marksman extraordinaire hawkeye edged out a victory over green arrow in our last installment, proving once and for all that you don't have to look good to be good. now, gentle readers, prepare yourself for the next onslaught in our battles of biblical proportions as two dark souls from the depths of hell pick a bone with each other.

round three: ghost rider (aka. johnny blaze; marvel) vs. spawn (aka. al simmons; image)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...derCVR001b.jpg vs http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...wn_Classic.jpg


powers and abilities breakdown:


ghost rider
Superhuman strength, speed, agility, stamina and durability
Proficient in hand-to-hand combat skills
Invulnerability to heat and flame
Ability to project regular and ethereal flame
Ability to travel between interdimensional realms and along any surface
Can conjure a bike using Hellfire
Wields enchanted chain
Rides flaming motorcycle
"Penance Stare"
Wields shotgun that can produce Hellfire

spawn
Superhuman strength, speed, durability and endurance,
Immortality,
Flight,
Magical abilities,
Teleportation,
Shapeshifting,
Regenerative healing factor,
Necroplasmic energy blasts,
Resurrection,
Empathy,
Wears living symbiotic costume capable of evolving


okay, give 'em... hell.

.44 Magdalene 05-09-2010 02:43 AM

If they actually fought, Spawn would rape the ever loving fuck out of Ghost Rider. He'd shit in Ghost Rider's mouth, and then make him shit in Spawn's mouth so that Spawn could shit a combination of Ghost Rider's shit and his own double shit into Ghost Rider's mouth. I know, I know, "BUT BUT BUT PENANCE STARE" but Spawn has taken down whole god damn armies of angels and shit that pretty much could do the exact same thing Ghost Rider does. Spawn has proven that soul burning judgment from beyond is no big fucking deal when you're Al GOD DAMN Simmons.

That being said, I actually prefer Ghost Rider and will vote for him as such. Spawn got too over the top after a while.

mitchables 05-09-2010 03:02 AM

you can kill a spawn by blowing its head off.

ghost rider has a motherfucking demon shotgun.

qed.

KIRA 05-09-2010 03:17 AM

Gotta go with the Hellspawn,You can kill Spawn but he aint gonna stay dead.Plus that living suit can quite literally make him God."demon shotgun" my ass Al Simmons as a mortal man was cold enough to make hell itself sit up and notice him when Malbolga wants you as the head of hells army and heaven wants you dead you are doing something right.

Downunder 05-09-2010 06:09 AM

Ghost rider - the other guy is a fag

Rammsteinmad 05-09-2010 06:20 AM

Wow shit, was kinda expecting these to always be Marvel VS DC rounds. This was a tough choice, I love Ghost Rider, but come on Spawn FTW!

thedamndest 05-09-2010 12:54 PM

Nic Cage v. Michael Jai White

McLegend 05-09-2010 02:04 PM

Nic Cage does kinda hurt Ghost Rider.

Skippord 05-09-2010 02:35 PM

No he doesn't

Ghost Rider is possibly my favorite comic book character ever

mitchables 05-09-2010 04:13 PM

how is 'empathy' a superpower, really?

mitchables 05-09-2010 04:15 PM

By the age of two, children normally begin to display the fundamental behaviors of empathy by having an emotional response that corresponds with another person.<sup id="cite_ref-27" class="reference">[28]</sup>

the amazing abilities of spawn and every two-year-old on the planet, ladies and gentlemen

Jeritron 05-09-2010 04:19 PM

Quote:

The "gifts" from the Greenworld were:

- Empathy strong enough to tell exactly what every person on the planet is feeling and where they are located
- Control over nature (can create huge woods, can move tectonic plates, can make tsunamis)

Jeritron 05-09-2010 04:20 PM

Found that on another forum discussing Spawn's power, but that's presumably what his empathy is all about

KIRA 05-09-2010 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mitchables (Post 3060840)
By the age of two, children normally begin to display the fundamental behaviors of empathy by having an emotional response that corresponds with another person.<sup id="cite_ref-27" class="reference">[28]</sup>

the amazing abilities of spawn and every two-year-old on the planet, ladies and gentlemen

HEY!.......shut up:)


I bet all the votes for ghost rider are really for that goddamn(but admittedly cool) bike of his

Vastardikai 05-09-2010 04:46 PM

Spawn also lacks something that Ghost Rider Has: A bad ass song...

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KIRA 05-09-2010 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 3060859)
Spawn also lacks something that Ghost Rider Has: A bad ass song...

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All you Ghost Rider dicks can offically go fuck yourselves

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:shifty:

LuigiD 05-09-2010 05:55 PM

As bad ass as Ghost Rider is, I am going to have to give it to Spawn. Spawn not only has all those brutal powers but prior to acquiring them, he had extensive military training.

Nowhere Man 05-09-2010 05:55 PM

As much as I think Spawn embodies everything I hate about 90s comics, there's really nothing Ghost Rider can do that Spawn can't do better.

Juan 05-09-2010 06:11 PM

Spawn

Kane Knight 05-09-2010 06:55 PM

This was tough in the sense that I like the idea of Spawn more, but at the end of the day, I like the Ghost Rider character more. I've never been a fan of McFarlane's writing, and a lot of his art satisfies that niche of dark and grotesque, but doesn't necessarily appeal to me.

Both movies sucked royal ass and I would like to kill all involved.

I was hoping not to vote for Marvel 3 times in a row. Ah well.

Spawn: Great idea. Ghost Rider: Better execution.

thedamndest 05-09-2010 07:03 PM

Your film may be in trouble when the best part about it is John Leguizamo.

Reavant 05-09-2010 07:37 PM

spawn... wish i was him... enough said

Jeritron 05-09-2010 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 3060940)
Your film may be in trouble when the best part about it is John Leguizamo.

But not in as much trouble as when the best part about it is laughing at Nic Cage's hairplugs

Boondock Saint 05-09-2010 07:42 PM

I'll go with Ghost Rider simply because Spawn is lame

thedamndest 05-09-2010 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 3060962)
But not in as much trouble as when the best part about it is laughing at Nic Cage's hairplugs

The Freak vs. the freaky

Kane Knight 05-09-2010 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 3060940)
Your film may be in trouble when the best part about it is John Leguizamo.

:rofl:

Jeritron 05-09-2010 08:08 PM

They are certainly two of the worst comic movies I've seen. The genre is also full of garbage, so that's saying something.
Ghost Rider is pretty much as bad as it gets. Spawn is a bit better than Ghost Rider, or other assorted crap like Fantastic Four, but that's not saying much at all.

Actually, in another thread when I was attempting to rank the top 10 superhero films, I noticed a sharp drop off in quality. I couldn't get much further than 7 or 8 places in without seeing a sudden decline from "damn good" to "not good enough to be on this list"
Very polarized genre when it comes to quality.

ClockShot 05-09-2010 08:09 PM

Mephisto's "bounty hunter" vs. Satan's "general".

If memory serves me correct, if Spawn uses all of his power, he's deader than a door nail, end of story. Ghost Rider works only at night, and vulnerable during the day.

Both told the boss to shove it.

Ghost Rider got a nice bike, but Spawn can get his own whlist using his cape as seen in the movie.

My allegiance is with Marvel, but I'll give Spawn the edge. Both movies sucked and you really can't base an argument on that.

KIRA 05-09-2010 08:53 PM

What kind of pussy has powers that only work at night.














:)

Kane Knight 05-09-2010 09:14 PM

Wait...I thought the Ghost Rider "only at night" thing was just for the movie.

I haven't read a recent GR comic, but I know Blaze used to turn into GR in the day in older comics.

KIRA 05-09-2010 09:37 PM

In the earliest issues his powers only work at night'

In later issues he can turn them on whenever

Reavant 05-09-2010 11:17 PM

spawn now has near limitless power... or at least did. al simmons isnt spawn anymore apparently.

Jeritron 05-09-2010 11:21 PM

I think the gimmick of having superhero gimmicks passed onto other characers is shit. It's been done to death in the past 10 or 15 years. I never liked it, and that's not going to change. It's the comic book equivalent of having lookalikes take on the Diesel and Razor personas.
Either that, or it's a cheap shakeup by having another established character don their costume and powers, as if it were a position in the workplace that had openings. In most cases, the hero persona and the real person behind it are intertwined, and defined by eachother. It's part of what makes the characters compelling.

Fignuts 05-09-2010 11:24 PM

Mitch, I think you really need to establish that this isn't about what character you like better, because some people aren't getting it.

Also, this is kind of a shitty match up, again. Spawn's power is near infinite. Yeah, decapitation can kill him, but that's a lot easier said than done, considering guy can pretty much do anything tio stop it. Spawn has gone up against countless threats, more deadly than shotguns. They never work.

Guy cut satan's head off, come on.

Fignuts 05-09-2010 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 3061216)
I think the gimmick of having superhero gimmicks passed onto other characers is shit. It's been done to death in the past 10 or 15 years. I never liked it, and that's not going to change. It's the comic book equivalent of having lookalikes take on the Diesel and Razor personas.
Either that, or it's a cheap shakeup by having another established character don their costume and powers, as if it were a position in the workplace that had openings. In most cases, the hero persona and the real person behind it are intertwined, and defined by eachother. It's part of what makes the characters compelling.

It's always sucked in the past, but to be fair the passing of the Captain America mantle was awesome. Ed Brubaker should write everything

Jeritron 05-09-2010 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3061225)
Mitch, I think you really need to establish that this isn't about what character you like better, because some people aren't getting it.
.


I thought he already established that this wasn't about preference, or who would win in a fight, but rather whichever criteria one chooses. I think most have shown a mixture of both approaches when choosing their vote

Fignuts 05-09-2010 11:28 PM

See I fucking hate spawn. Ghost Rider is a much cooler character, at least in recent years, but that doesn't change who would win in a fight.

Fignuts 05-09-2010 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 3061232)
I thought he already established that this wasn't about preference, or who would win in a fight, but rather whichever criteria one chooses. I think most have shown a mixture of both approaches when choosing their vote

That seems very silly tbh.

What's the point of the poll when people are voting for two completely different things?

Should just pick one or the other and just go with it.

HATERS GONNA HATE

Jeritron 05-09-2010 11:34 PM

I have a feeling issue 4 is going to be an epic matchup

Lock Jaw 05-10-2010 12:56 AM

I have not read or seen any comics/movies related to Spawn at all.

I have little exposure to Ghost Rider as well. I read his latest series. Which got pretty good by the end.

So I vote Ghost Rider just because.


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