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TazFTW86 06-10-2010 10:27 AM

best debut ever!
 
Best debut ever, and WWE needs to do this more often...

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Next Big Thing 06-10-2010 10:56 AM

There are few who have the mic skills, look, and confidence to pull that off in their debut.

Rammsteinmad 06-10-2010 11:24 AM

Ah... good times. :D

Jordan 06-10-2010 11:27 AM

Yeah that was a great one. Can't really think of any better although the Radicals debut was killer as well. Did they not end up wrestling their first night in that amazing 10 man tag? Or was that the next week?

Either way that 10 man tag was killer.

Also, I was so disappointed that matched Jericho with Road Dogg at Summerslam after his promo war with the Rock.

It's also awesome how WWE pushed Jericho based on the fact that everyone who has ever seen him in WCW new that he needed to be a big star, and WCW never even tried.

Respect WWE for that.

BillyBonez 06-10-2010 02:33 PM

I agree, altho when I watched it back in the day since I didnt really care for WCW, I was like "Who is this jobber?" lol but it got my interest I give props for that

jskinnyg 06-10-2010 04:53 PM

THE MAN & The Best at what he does in the world today!

Razzamajazz 06-10-2010 07:29 PM

i still remember where i was and what i was doing when i saw that. it was such a surprise because i barely even noticed jericho had been off wcw tv for a while

Fat Aaron 06-10-2010 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 3104693)
Yeah that was a great one. Can't really think of any better although the Radicals debut was killer as well. Did they not end up wrestling their first night in that amazing 10 man tag? Or was that the next week?

Either way that 10 man tag was killer.

Also, I was so disappointed that matched Jericho with Road Dogg at Summerslam after his promo war with the Rock.

It's also awesome how WWE pushed Jericho based on the fact that everyone who has ever seen him in WCW new that he needed to be a big star, and WCW never even tried.

Respect WWE for that.

:y::y::y::y::y:

LuigiD 06-10-2010 09:40 PM

Besides for Jericho..I liked the debut of Tazz in WWF as well.
Mostly because I hated Kurt Angle at first.
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Damian Rey 06-10-2010 10:26 PM

God dammit Tazz' debut still gives me chills. From the "We Want Tazz" chants to the BIG pop he got when the music hit, it was awesome.

How the hell did they fuck up such a hot, impactful debut? Sheesh.

Damian Rey 06-10-2010 10:33 PM

Also...

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I found it to be pretty awesome to see someone unknown (to me, at least) like Lesnar come in and destroy everything that moved.

BigCrippyZ 06-10-2010 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 3105846)
God dammit Tazz' debut still gives me chills. From the "We Want Tazz" chants to the BIG pop he got when the music hit, it was awesome.

How the hell did they fuck up such a hot, impactful debut? Sheesh.

And some folks believe there's not a difference in the crowd reactions between now and the Attitude era. Just listen to Tazz's debut!

Damian Rey 06-10-2010 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCrippyZ (Post 3105871)
And some folks believe there's not a difference in the crowd reactions between now and the Attitude era. Just listen to Tazz's debut!

Pretty sure the consensus is today's crowds are dull and boring and have a hand in ruining what should be awesome segments.

BigCrippyZ 06-10-2010 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 3105874)
Pretty sure the consensus is today's crowds are dull and boring and have a hand in ruining what should be awesome segments.

I think most people will agree. Still I had another thread recently where some folks just didn't believe there was a difference. Or that it wasn't related to the PG era/writing. Someone argued it was because they went to HD and that's why the crowds "sounded" quieter.

Lock Jaw 06-10-2010 11:25 PM

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:rofl: the idea of jailing Steve Blackman.

ImAnIdiot 06-10-2010 11:41 PM

These worry me.... look at all the potential... thne think about all the potential last Mondays end has....

Damian Rey 06-10-2010 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCrippyZ (Post 3105913)
I think most people will agree. Still I had another thread recently where some folks just didn't believe there was a difference. Or that it wasn't related to the PG era/writing. Someone argued it was because they went to HD and that's why the crowds "sounded" quieter.

I think the PG marketing has something to do with it. I mean, when you think about who's going to the shows, it's little kids who are brought with their parents. Prepubescent kids don't have enough bass in their voice to produce the big time pops heard in the attitude era.

Also, the parents are only there to take their kid, and likely have no interest in popping for anyone.

RVDmark 06-11-2010 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCrippyZ (Post 3105913)
I think most people will agree. Still I had another thread recently where some folks just didn't believe there was a difference. Or that it wasn't related to the PG era/writing. Someone argued it was because they went to HD and that's why the crowds "sounded" quieter.

The crowds are a massve part of the atmosphere, and its nothing to do with HD. Give a corwd something worth cheering for, and they will cheer. Take a look at ONS/ONS2. Or most Attitude era shows with Rock n Austin on them.

The Show Off 06-11-2010 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RVDmark (Post 3106606)
The crowds are a massve part of the atmosphere, and its nothing to do with HD. Give a corwd something worth cheering for, and they will cheer. Take a look at ONS/ONS2. Or most Attitude era shows with Rock n Austin on them.

Yeah but you have to consider two things... One Night Stand 1 & 2 were both basically 100% males between the ages of 18 and 35 (the loudest demo) and it took place in New York City which is a hub for marks.

It's true that a lot of the problem with pops these days has to do with parents and kids as said before. Kids don't have enough base to really pop and their parents are just escorting them there so they don't care.

The thing is you have to give the 18 to 35 year old males something to pop for to get the old Attitude era pops, however a lot of those things would alienate the young fans who are far more lucrative from a merchandise stand point.

It is still sad that the ROH shows I go to have louder crowds then most WWE shows.

BigCrippyZ 06-11-2010 12:37 PM

Maybe I'm the only one, but if I hear a great reaction from the crowd, it gets me more into the show. Especially on t.v. I guess it's the mob mentality thing working it's magic on me. Thinking back on how great the Attitude era was and how much I was into it and thoroughly enjoyed it consistently, I'm wondering if it wasn't due, at least in part, to the great crowd reactions from guys like Rock, Austin, Taker, and HHH. Hell even lower and mid card guys often got pops bigger than Cena does now. Anybody else ever feel that way?

TheZman 06-11-2010 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 3104693)

It's also awesome how WWE pushed Jericho based on the fact that everyone who has ever seen him in WCW new that he needed to be a big star, and WCW never even tried.



That is because WCW was being run by totally dipshits.

Ultra Mantis 06-11-2010 06:53 PM

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Volare 06-11-2010 08:55 PM

Vintage Braden!

XCaliber 06-11-2010 11:46 PM

It's definetly one of the better modern debuts but i'd say Undertaker's had to be one of the most memorable intros from back in the day it's funny to think back then he was known as Cain.

DAMN iNATOR 06-12-2010 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XCaliber (Post 3107849)
It's definetly one of the better modern debuts but i'd say Undertaker's had to be one of the most memorable intros from back in the day it's funny to think back then he was known as Cane.

Actually wasn't he called Kane the Undertaker or something like that for a very brief period at and just after his debut?

XCaliber 06-12-2010 10:50 AM

Yep Cain the Undertaker was used in his debut match and then after that they dropped it.

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Mooияakeя™ 06-12-2010 08:32 PM

As much as I love Jericho and Taz. Even Lesnar's was ok, but fucking Braden Walker's wins it! lol.

Mooияakeя™ 06-12-2010 08:38 PM

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tjmidnight420 06-12-2010 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Next Big Thing (Post 3104646)
There are few who have the mic skills, look, and confidence to pull that off in their debut.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 3104693)
Can't really think of any better.

:y:

Loose Cannon 06-12-2010 10:17 PM

I thought Goldberg had a tremendous debut in the WWE. I think his was better then Jericho's. I am not a big fan of Jericho's because the last impression you get out of it is Rock owning him. I hated that. fucking hated Rock at that point too.

RVD and Dreamer leading to the ECW thing in 2001 was amazing.

McLegend 06-12-2010 10:20 PM

Jericho was someone who was feuding with some jobbroni named Juventud. Why shouldn't The Rock own him?

I'm actully going to be serious and say Kane had a really good debut.


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