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jskinnyg 06-15-2010 06:30 PM

Does anyone Hate the 619 as much as I do?
 


For my 619th post I decided to trash his lamest move... For a guy who, over the years has done some amazing things in the ring... This lame ass move called the 619 has to go...

That being said... Post yer favorite and/or not so favorite Rey moment before he got older, slower and started injuring everyone...

My favorite was his Halloween havoc match with Guerrero in 98'. He did some moves that he said he would never be able to repeat...
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My not so favorite was when they made him take off the mask and put on those ridiculous F***ing Devil Horns...
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Discuss...

MoFo 06-15-2010 06:41 PM

Ya, definitely the weakest move in wrestling ATM.

Savio 06-15-2010 06:45 PM

That looked like a hot match

BillyBonez 06-15-2010 06:46 PM

The move aint bad, its one of the more innovative moves in wrestling, the problem is dat WWE makes it WAY too predictable when someone gonna get hit like a guy just drops on the ropes on purpose u see it coming from a 1000 miles away. What they should do is have it come out of nowhere more often.

So it aint da move, its the way WWE makes Mysterio USE it.

jskinnyg 06-15-2010 06:53 PM

I'll agree with that...

Juan 06-15-2010 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoFo (Post 3115131)
Ya, definitely the weakest move in wrestling ATM.

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w...kleShuffle.gif

MoFo 06-15-2010 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 3115168)



U win

DLVH84 06-15-2010 07:13 PM

In actuality, it was Tiger Mask's move before Mysterio. When I mean Tiger Mask, I mean the original, Satoru Sayama.

Xero 06-15-2010 07:14 PM

Did Tiger Mask use the fake or did he actually use the attack?

tjmidnight420 06-15-2010 07:14 PM

The video in the first post is a prime example of why WCW was known for cruiserweight wrestling.

Also: Fuck the 619.

XL 06-15-2010 07:25 PM

Yeah, I hate the 619. Always prefer to see how it's reversed if anything. When Jericho grabbed his mask in a match last year was particularly good.

mike adamle 06-15-2010 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3115197)
Did Tiger Mask use the fake or did he actually use the attack?

He used the attack, it was originally called the tiger feint kick.

Anybody Thrilla 06-15-2010 08:05 PM

I just watched that Halloween Havoc match again last week on WWE Classics. Soooo good.

The 619 is fine. It's a pop move, and it does well as such. Compared to things like the previously mentioned Five Knuckle Shuffle or MVP's Ballin' Elbow Drop, it's completely tolerable.

I will admit that the way it's usually set up is usually awful, but whatever. It's still impressive. I really don't get all of this seemingly recent hatred some people here have for Rey Mysterio. Was I just missing it before?

Oh, and for the record, the weakest looking finisher in the WWE is The Lie Detector.

Theo Dious 06-15-2010 08:06 PM

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g.../horseanus.jpg

McLegend 06-15-2010 08:07 PM

Hate for Mysterio has been going on for awhile.

Anybody Thrilla 06-15-2010 08:08 PM

Well, I'm still a Rey Mysterio fan.

McLegend 06-15-2010 08:12 PM

It started pretty much when he won the World title all those years ago.

jskinnyg 06-15-2010 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 3115323)
I just watched that Halloween Havoc match again last week on WWE Classics. Soooo good.

The 619 is fine. It's a pop move, and it does well as such. Compared to things like the previously mentioned Five Knuckle Shuffle or MVP's Ballin' Elbow Drop, it's completely tolerable.

I will admit that the way it's usually set up is usually awful, but whatever. It's still impressive. I really don't get all of this seemingly recent hatred some people here have for Rey Mysterio. Was I just missing it before?

Oh, and for the record, the weakest looking finisher in the WWE is The Lie Detector.

Which one is the Lie Detector? Is that R-Truth? If so, I feel you on that one...

Anybody Thrilla 06-15-2010 08:24 PM

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Nicky Fives 06-15-2010 08:40 PM

No Hate for the FU???? I mean all it is is a glorified Bodyslam.....

Anybody Thrilla 06-15-2010 08:43 PM

Lots of moves are glorified body slams.

Anybody Thrilla 06-15-2010 08:43 PM

Actually, everything in wrestling is glorified in one way or another.

jskinnyg 06-15-2010 08:49 PM

Yeah Lie Detector = Suck... If yer gonna spin... Do the Spinnerooney...

ImAnIdiot 06-15-2010 09:17 PM

I think the way the lie detector looks is fine for a set up to a finisher... saw at least three sots last night in the fatal four way that looked soooooo much better for him to finish with...

Anybody Thrilla 06-15-2010 09:18 PM

Yeah, that's what kills me. He has plenty of other moves at his disposal that would make fine finishers.

Krimzon7 06-15-2010 11:57 PM

But the WWE likes to see R Truth kooning as much as possible!

The Pope 06-16-2010 12:10 AM

The F-U is nothing more than a Super Fireman's Carry.

Favre4Ever 06-16-2010 12:30 AM

It only really got cheesy after they scrapped the West Coast Pop, the leg drop/senton/whatever he follows up with now doesn't really do it for me.

jskinnyg 06-16-2010 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Favre4Ever (Post 3115909)
It only really got cheesy after they scrapped the West Coast Pop, the leg drop/senton/whatever he follows up with now doesn't really do it for me.

Yeah the WCP was pretty badass... that thing he does now.. Hmmm...

Skippord 06-16-2010 02:25 AM

the lie detector is the weakest looking finishing move in the history of wrestling

jskinnyg 06-16-2010 02:29 AM

I heart skippord... But only for the last comment...

DAMN iNATOR 06-16-2010 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Perfect (Post 3115879)
The F-U is nothing more than a Super Fireman's Carry.

I'll agree with ya on that. But I think in fairness to Cena, we should also mention that the same could be said of Brock's F-5.

Jeritron 06-16-2010 03:14 AM

and the Angle Slam

Supreme Olajuwon 06-16-2010 07:30 AM

The only beef I really have with the 619 is the setup. They've run out of creative ways to make guys fall on the middle rope. But a lot of it is the guy taking it. And I guess it's a very awkward move to sell since you're leaning on the middle rope and that makes it hard to fall backward and make it look natural.

Joesgonnakillyou 06-16-2010 07:49 AM

I think they should have people land in that position in other matches so that when it happens in Mysterio matches it doesn't look so weird. Other than that, I like the 619, it's dynamic and as someone said it's a lot better than all the other pop moves.

Rey Mysterio is one of the best guys in ring in the WWE at the moment. He rarely has a bad match and managed to have several good ones with Batista (BATISTA!). The match at extreme rules with Punk is my favourite WWE match of the year so far and the feud with Punk is definately one of the best.

I'm a Mysterio fan.

Sixx 06-16-2010 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 3115323)

Oh, and for the record, the weakest looking finisher in the WWE is The Lie Detector.

I had to check it out on youtube and it indeed is horrible. It makes Hogan's Leg Drop look like a gunshot.

RiX1024 06-16-2010 10:31 AM

619 equals overrated. he needs a better move me thinks.

Anybody Thrilla 06-16-2010 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sixx (Post 3116308)
I had to check it out on youtube and it indeed is horrible. It makes Hogan's Leg Drop look like a gunshot.

I had a nice little embedded YouTube video of it in this very thread, you know.

jskinnyg 06-16-2010 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 3116111)
I'll agree with ya on that. But I think in fairness to Cena, we should also mention that the same could be said of Brock's F-5.

Brock's F-5 was a little different and impressive as he had to spin each opponent around... Well that sounded weak, but it always looked badass to me... And in a little fairness to Cena... When he picked up Big Show and when he would pick up 2 guys and do the FU, that was some impressive strength... But I still hate his finishers...

Savio 06-18-2010 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skippord (Post 3116080)
the lie detector is the weakest looking finishing move in the history of wrestling

NO! NO! NO!

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