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The Pope 07-14-2010 09:00 PM

Triple H or Cena to allign with Nexus?
 
- WWE is toying with the idea of turning a top Superstar heel and have them be the person behind The Nexus angle. The main people being pitched for a heel turn are Triple H and believe it or not, John Cena.

Cena turning heel would be a risk because of his popularity with kids and everything else, including merchandise. Triple H has wanted to turn heel for a few years now but with injuries to him and his co-workers, they haven't had the right time to turn him.

Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

Xero 07-14-2010 09:07 PM

lol no way it'll be Cena.

SOCCER LEGS 07-14-2010 09:17 PM

would love for it to be triple h... evolution was bad ass

Savio 07-14-2010 09:19 PM

no bad idea.

Perry Saturn 07-14-2010 09:21 PM

I could hhh being a ringleader but i wouldnt count out mcmahon as the leader

What Would Kevin Do? 07-14-2010 09:24 PM

I was thinking about this a few nights ago. While I really want a heel Cena, a heel HHH makes perfect sense, especially if they turn Sheamus.

This about it, HHH gets taken out by a new blood guy in Sheamus. Realizing that the new, young talent is starting to take over, and his throne may be in jeopardy, he pretty much gets the hungriest group of young talent to do his bidding. They're job can be to pretty much protect HHH, and keep the rest of the WWE in check, under the hopes that once HHH is gone, they'll be the ones running the show.

teamXtremist 07-14-2010 09:25 PM

they dont need a leader wade is the man

BollywoodSingh 07-14-2010 09:30 PM

Ya Barrett needs to be the main guy behind this. Turning a top star heel would just take away Barrett's heat. This should all lead to a big Cena vs. Barrett PPV match.

How is Barrett's in-ring work? If he's decent enough, I'd like to see him win the title out of all this.

Xero 07-14-2010 09:31 PM

The only way I could see Cena being turned is if they have the intention to bring in Danielson and put him immediately into a feud with Cena.

ClockShot 07-14-2010 09:32 PM

Mmmmmmmm. The idea of making Cena go heel makes me go crazy like Pavlov's dogs. It COULD work. But I would wait for a little while, like after the November elections so WWE could keep it's kid friendly image for Linda. Stupid as it sounds, she's catching alot of flak about her job here in CT. But you gotta wonder how long this angle is gonna run for.

Triple H........how does it work? He's been out of action since NXT began, right? I can see him coming in as the mystery GM. But heading up Nexus? Jericho looks like he's the brains behind it the way things are going with him now.

What Would Kevin Do? 07-14-2010 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BollywoodSingh (Post 3159190)
Ya Barrett needs to be the main guy behind this. Turning a top star heel would just take away Barrett's heat. This should all lead to a big Cena vs. Barrett PPV match.

How is Barrett's in-ring work? If he's decent enough, I'd like to see him win the title out of all this.

Barrett is good, but he's far from a main eventer. Let Nexus do there thing for a bit, then bring in the "leader" (HHH). Eventually, Barrett will get sick of doing HHH's bidding, and he'll have a great face turn and feud with HHH. It's what they did with Batista, and it worked great. Let them do it again.

PullMyFinger 07-14-2010 09:47 PM

Turn Cena heel, that would be great and awesome.

nrt4 07-14-2010 09:53 PM

If they turned Cena heel little kids would still turn up in those orange shirts.

Savio 07-14-2010 09:59 PM

Barrett needs to be the man if HHH is the leader that totally dissolves the purpose of nexus.

they will not turn cena because when they turned Austin in 2001 everything went to shit.

blak23 07-14-2010 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teamXtremist (Post 3159180)
they dont need a leader wade is the man

personally i dont see wade as being there yet i think a hhh rub could be better for him in the long run

jerichoholicninja 07-14-2010 10:07 PM

A heel Triple H would be good but leading the Nexus would seem like a step down for him and also take credibility from Nexus and Barrett specifically. Cena leading wouldn't make much sense since they are constantly attacking him. Neither interests me in the least.

blak23 07-14-2010 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savior (Post 3159247)
Barrett needs to be the man if HHH is the leader that totally dissolves the purpose of nexus.

they will not turn cena because when they turned Austin in 2001 everything went to shit.

i feel like austin went to shit because he was always a tweener and for anyone not to cheer whatever he did they'd hae to go to far off his persona. with cena id think it'd work better and he'd get hogan heel turn heat and it'd be the whole turned his back on the fans type kick

blak23 07-14-2010 10:11 PM

HHH isn't a good heel if he doesn't have a faction. it just doesn't work

Droford 07-14-2010 10:12 PM

Turn Cena heel and then have Darren Young come back sans ridiculous hair and do the Cena Rapping schtick circa 8 years ago. It would be perfect!

jskinnyg 07-14-2010 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3159192)
The only way I could see Cena being turned is if they have the intention to bring in Danielson and put him immediately into a feud with Cena.

This would be cool... But I think the pipedream of Cena turning heel while making millions for VKM is just not in the cards...

Barrett is doing a helluva job... If they were to put someone here, it would make sense to do it with HHH so he could heal up while on camera... Using the Sledge when needed...

XCaliber 07-14-2010 10:26 PM

It should be someone else that's an already established heel like Jericho, DiBiase, Edge, or Miz if anything.

The Gold Standard 07-14-2010 10:35 PM

I don't think it would be good. I think Barrett is already at the point where is is respected by the fans that he can be over as a heel.

I actually would not mind if Barrett became champ with in the next few months.

Schlomey 07-14-2010 10:51 PM

I was trying to come up with a way to turn Cena heel yesterday for the Cena Hate thread...I could think of NOTHING except Nexus. I comtemplated him even being a special ref and turning on another top face...but then I realized that there was no other top face that would really give the heat needed for a heel turn.

so its this or nothing for John.

VSG 07-14-2010 11:01 PM

The Wrestling Observer = Ryan Clark right?

Kane Knight 07-14-2010 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blak23 (Post 3159275)
HHH isn't a good heel


Shadrick 07-14-2010 11:47 PM

Triple H is a good everything, Knight, I'll fucking kill you. /James Steele

Schlomey 07-14-2010 11:48 PM

HHH as a face gets just as boring after a while as HHH the heel. I guess that could be true for anyone. He is equally good at both in my opinion and he is rare in the idea that it doesn't take much to turn him either way.

VSG 07-14-2010 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadrick (Post 3159528)
/James Steele

Seriously though, what does that even mean?

BollywoodSingh 07-14-2010 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blak23 (Post 3159271)
i feel like austin went to shit because he was always a tweener and for anyone not to cheer whatever he did they'd hae to go to far off his persona. with cena id think it'd work better and he'd get hogan heel turn heat and it'd be the whole turned his back on the fans type kick

The difference there is Hogan was losing a lot of steam in terms of his drawing ability from 1994-1996 so they had to turn him heel. As much as fans boo the babyface Cena, it has had no effect on business, as he's the WWE's major draw right now, so from a business stand point, it would probably be a mistake to turn him heel now.

Kane Knight 07-15-2010 12:03 AM

If you were really channeling Jimmy, you'd need to ask someone to change your diaper. ;)

Anyway, Trips' work as both a face and a heel is largely contingent on the people around him. Jimmy probably only likes him because Trips is dominant, and Jimmy dreams of being dominated by a big, hulking norseman.

Regardless, both Cena and Trips being behind Nexus is stupid. Turing Cena heel is a longshot to begin with, since he's the guy who sells the shitty shirts. Turning him as he's been fucked royally is bad reasoning even for WWE. They could try a "Hogan joins the nWo" moment, but I don't think WWE would risk their big ticket right now.

Triple H being the mastermind benefits...Triple H. And it doesn't benefit him all that much. He doesn't need the boost, and it kills some of the heat NXT's getting on their own. This at least makes sense from WWE's mindset, because it involves shoving Triple H into the center of an angle and screwing up a good angle...but it's still dumb.

DAMN iNATOR 07-15-2010 12:13 AM

I'd much rather see someone other than Cena or Triple H revealed as the Nexus mastermind. As for the anyonymous GM, it would just be stupid to reveal Cena as being behind it, but I think Trips could make it work fine as he's been out for like 2-3 months.

And even I know now is not the time to turn Cena heel. Could it work for Trips? Perhaps, but I think right now if they tried it on his return or anytime too soon thereafter it could backfire in a major way. As for who is revealed as the Nexus' mastermind, it should be either Jericho or one of the other 7 pros from NXT season 1.

James Steele 07-15-2010 12:20 AM

Vintage Kane Knight!

Evil Vito 07-15-2010 12:51 AM

<font color=goldenrod>I really don't want Nexus to have a mastermind, UNLESS the mastermind is a non-wrestler. Barrett is great on the mic, has a guaranteed title shot, and can get a title run out of this. What would happen? He'd win the belt and then simply lay down for the leader? That would suck, and they'd all just be standing behind the leader while he spoke.

As for the two options presented - as much as I would love a Cena heel run, it would be one of the least sensible things they've ever done from a storyline perspective. I can understand "taking one for the team" and allowing yourself to get your ass kicked to push across the threat, but he's been jumped by Nexus several times now AND they caused him to lose his title. It just wouldn't make any sense. You formed this group and willingly got your ass kicked and lost your title just to make a point?

Triple H would make far more sense for the reasons that WWKD mentioned.</font>

Londoner 07-15-2010 12:54 AM

Told you, HHH is the new GM!;)

Jeritron 07-15-2010 12:54 AM

If they feel the need to add a mastermind, I'd prefer it be a non-wrestling role. I think Barrett should be doing the leading in the ring, and get any main events or title reigns out of this.
He can carry the stable on the microphone too, but if they think a co-leader will help get them over more, I am fine with that as long as they split mic time and Barrett is the one stepping into the ring.

Aguakate 07-15-2010 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Perfect (Post 3159150)
- WWE is toying with the idea of turning a top Superstar heel and have them be the person behind The Nexus angle. The main people being pitched for a heel turn are Triple H and believe it or not, John Cena.

Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

DUH...CHRIS JERICHO. He's the PERFECT guy for the job. Plus, the NXT guys can learn from him in real life, he can mentor them and stuff, as they work on what they will be doing on tv.

DaVe 07-15-2010 03:59 AM

HHH isn't a good heel

lol... wow.

Kane Knight 07-15-2010 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaVe (Post 3159826)
HHH isn't a good heel

lol... wow.

He's not.

His "heel" status was largely cemented by the company he kept, both friend and foe.

bigslimjj 07-15-2010 10:30 AM

put the nexus in the SES.

Kane Knight 07-15-2010 10:57 AM

So you're saying they should join Punk's stable?


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