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The MAC 08-03-2010 03:20 PM

Dreamer > Hogan + Bischoff !
 
I was surprised that TNA has not taken the approach of ECW invading and taking over . I think the angle would have had less interest if it was another invasion.

I hear TNA's ratings have spiked slightly because of ECW thing which is being overseen by Dreamer. In that way he is achieving more stable interest in TNA than Hogan and Bischoff had.

Do you think this is TNA turning the corner with their approach or will they lose the little trickle of interest they have garnered ?


Is the writing on the wall for Hogan and bischoff if TNA does the best business its ever done with Dreamer and Co. at the helm ?

Ruien 08-03-2010 03:30 PM

My roommate watches TNA religiously now, due to ECW.

bigslimjj 08-03-2010 04:02 PM

i think it's odd that they got more younger viewers this week.Maybe we're seeing a new generation of hardcore fans?

Schlomey 08-03-2010 05:41 PM

New young viewers probably don't even know what hardcore is if they are used to WWE-Lite brand of "extreme" violence.

rated rjo 08-03-2010 06:27 PM

Damn, I remember people were laughing at Dixie a week ago when reports surfaced about the ECW market research. Looks like..... and I can't believe that I'm about to say this....... Dixie and TNA were right.



Did hell just freeze over?

The Pope 08-03-2010 06:29 PM

Little kids like it hardCORE

bigslimjj 08-03-2010 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schlomey (Post 3183749)
New young viewers probably don't even know what hardcore is if they are used to WWE-Lite brand of "extreme" violence.

usually the wwe's better ppv's are the ones with a more hardcore gimmick.But you're right it's the "lite", essentially bloodless version of it.

Jimmy Cones 08-03-2010 09:35 PM

If Dreamer and co. are going to have a hand in booking and writing and provide the "filter" on Russo that is always needed, then we should expect a small steady rise in interest for TNA.

dronepool 08-03-2010 09:41 PM

It's awesome "ECW" is boosting ratings. I like where this is going.

Destro 2.0 08-03-2010 09:50 PM

I don't expect nothing Dixie is giving Tommy free run so he can help promote One Night Stand. Then its back to crap trust me I am right on this. If I am wrong I will make Big Announcement concerning the forum.

AJHayes 08-04-2010 11:33 PM

I've been thinking lately that Tommy is probably the "biggest" thing to come out of the Attitude era. Not necessarily in sales, but for constant quality, constant hard work, unflagging loyalty, and really being in touch with the fans.

A far shot from the green suspenders.

He is, in my opinion, the most over guy that never "made it."

Mr. Nerfect 08-04-2010 11:53 PM

It's actually kind of sad. Something old and broken is still selling better than TNA's current product. Remember when The Rise and Fall of ECW was like the WWE's top selling DVD, too? The ECW name has got a buzz around it that draws in hardcore wrestling fans (pun somewhat intended). But keeping those fans is going to be the problem. I don't think Russo is up to that, and I'm not sure Dreamer is either.

Aguakate 08-06-2010 01:04 AM

I dont care if TNA was planning this ECW storyline a YEAR ago...to me, they are doing it at an unfortunate time, cause since WWE has the NeXus angle, anything TNA does that has an invasion component to it, seems like a rip-off of the NeXus angle...

...it also doesn't help that WWE already revived ECW...so...it's like reunions...one time is cool, revives old memories, gets people rild up, etc...but when u do it too much, it loses it's "magic"...

Schlomey 08-06-2010 11:57 AM

This ECW angle does not seem like an invasion though. Not to me at least. They were invited guests and seems like their is NO beef with TNA superstars so, to me, it feels like it's just the one off "respect" show that they say it is.

Aguakate 08-06-2010 06:03 PM

But they came in beating up TNA talent, though.

itsmeJD 08-06-2010 06:06 PM

No, they came in and beat up Abyss to assist RVD. They only fought back after TNA started sending guys out to stop them. I didn't see this as an invasion at all because they were invited. They never attacked TNA wrestlers until Abyss and were then attacked themselves by TNA, to which they fought back.

Gertner 08-06-2010 09:39 PM

Dreamer had a run as booker and sucked ass in OVW.

Aguakate 08-06-2010 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itsmeJD (Post 3188347)
No, they came in and beat up Abyss to assist RVD. They only fought back after TNA started sending guys out to stop them. I didn't see this as an invasion at all because they were invited. They never attacked TNA wrestlers until Abyss and were then attacked themselves by TNA, to which they fought back.

WWE on a RAW made it out that Vince McMahon invited NeXus...even though they then beat him up afterwards...

...and also, NeXus came in to beat up Cena...then later the WWE guys fought back.

So anyway you look at it, it's just too similar.

Mr. Nerfect 08-06-2010 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 3188553)
Dreamer had a run as booker and sucked ass in OVW.

That's true. I think he could book one reunion night well enough, but beyond that I just can't see him doing much good. He could teach talent a lot as a road agent, but yeah, keep a pen out of his hand.

My other problem with this ECW stuff, is just that there isn't really a lot left to be explored as far as dream matches go. Rob Van Dam vs. Jerry Lynn and Tommy Dreamer vs. Raven are the best they can really give us.

Gertner 08-06-2010 11:15 PM

Oh for one night of course! Long term though, I don't think you want to put your company in the hands of a guy who failed in his only attempt. He'd have to be part of an experienced team and learn.


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