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BizarroKing 08-18-2010 11:18 PM

WWE Sexist?
 
Florida Championship Wrestling, the official developmental territory of World Wrestling Entertainment, held its annual Talent Evaluation Clinic three weeks ago. The FCW Clinic is the only clinic where WWE producers, WWE scouts and WWE Superstars are in attendance to evaluate potential WWE talent. The camp was attended by 63 dreamers and it is believed that only a select few would imminently land contracts with the organization.

The company reaction was that of the 63 people who tried out at the clinic, paying $1,000 to be seen, that approximately 50 of them had no business being there. In particular, AAA Women’s Champion Sexy Star received harsh reviews as company officials felt her work was terrible, her English was terrible, and that she was overweight. They also felt she wasn’t pretty looking without her mask on. John Laurinaitis told those in FCW that when it comes to hiring female talent, the standard is if they aren’t pretty enough to appear in Playboy, then they shouldn’t be hired.

Is WWE sexist or what?
1-Who cares about looks? If Sexy Star actually looks bad without the mask on (I obviously wouldn't know) then why can't she keep it on!?
2-Other than Beth Phoenix and Melina, name one diva that CAN wrestle.
2-Overweight? I only saw a little bit of her but she seems pretty average size to me...

Discuss?

Xero 08-18-2010 11:19 PM

I've known this for years.....

Droford 08-18-2010 11:21 PM

Guess this means Awesome Kong has no future in the WWE.

Fignuts 08-18-2010 11:21 PM

We need pics of sexy star.

Xero 08-18-2010 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 3206902)
Guess this means Awesome Kong has no future in the WWE.

I disagree. She's a spectacle. I've said in the past, no way she should be in the Women's division, but bringing her in as a heel's muscle would work extremely well, assuming they actually let her kick ass in the role.

Essentially, a better looking Chyna.

Xero 08-18-2010 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3206904)
We need pics of sexy star.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...-wrestling.jpg

They consider this "overweight"....

What Would Kevin Do? 08-18-2010 11:24 PM

Here's a vid.
<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/1Vmx0cGrzn8?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/1Vmx0cGrzn8?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

She's in the black mask.

Johnny Ace is fucking crazy.

BizarroKing 08-18-2010 11:24 PM

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_batkaLdAQi...Y+STAR+AAA.jpg
http://planetdiva.files.wordpress.co...pg?w=275&h=413
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_2-7AdSkZA7...exy+Star-5.jpg

VSG 08-18-2010 11:25 PM

She looks great to me!

Droford 08-18-2010 11:27 PM

I think all of that negativity towards Star is code word for "Your tits aren't big enough"

Thats the only thing I can think of..

Xero 08-18-2010 11:28 PM

Shit like this depresses me in terms of the direction they're taking WWE as a whole.

Shit keeps building up for me to say fuck it and not watch anymore.

teamXtremist 08-18-2010 11:36 PM

welll duh

Juan 08-18-2010 11:40 PM

I think they're more racist than sexist.

Xero 08-18-2010 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 3206930)
I think they're more racist than sexist.

Doubt you'll be seeing Michael Hayes fucking Awesome Kong anytime soon.

Droford 08-18-2010 11:43 PM

The funny thing is they want their Divas to look like they could pose in Playboy but everything is still PG and they dont do the Playboy Special anymore.

teamXtremist 08-18-2010 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 3206933)
The funny thing is they want their Divas to look like they could pose in Playboy but everything is still PG and they dont do the Playboy Special anymore.


exactly lets get the finest bitches on the planet then parade them around like nuns

Droford 08-19-2010 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teamXtremist (Post 3206942)
exactly lets get the finest bitches on the planet then parade them around like nuns

or more appropriately

http://www.lethalwow.com/bios/litaimage4.jpg

Like RTC Ivory

Triple Naitch 08-19-2010 12:17 AM

Don't really care about women's wrestling, so I wanna see the hottest pieces of ass on my television possible when given the choice.

SaskatchewanChamp 08-19-2010 12:26 AM

Women's wrestling is a side-show, much like the midgets were back in the 80's. They are there for the eye candy, not for the wrestling ability. It is pretty much that simple.

DrCrawford 08-19-2010 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple Naitch (Post 3206994)
Don't really care about women's wrestling, so I wanna see the hottest pieces of ass on my television possible when given the choice.

i dont care for wwe diva's wrestling because its not entertaining. if i wanted to see playboy-esque models id just look at playboy. i watch wrestling to see entertaining matches, not divas.

McLegend 08-19-2010 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple Naitch (Post 3206994)
Don't really care about women's wrestling, so I wanna see the hottest pieces of ass on my television possible when given the choice.

I agree 100%.

But yeah WWE is definitely sexiest. As am I in most of my TV watching.

owenbrown 08-19-2010 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3206908)
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...-wrestling.jpg

They consider this "overweight"....

Quote:

Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do? (Post 3206910)
Here's a vid.
<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/1Vmx0cGrzn8?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/1Vmx0cGrzn8?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

She's in the black mask.

Johnny Ace is fucking crazy.

What the hell are they smoking in the WWE?

Kane Knight 08-19-2010 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaskatchewanChamp (Post 3207014)
Women's wrestling is a side-show, much like the midgets were back in the 80's. They are there for the eye candy, not for the wrestling ability. It is pretty much that simple.

Yeah, people were weird in the 80s. I mean, jerking it to midgets?

Wishbone 08-19-2010 01:05 AM

damnit WWE just keeps pissing me off every single day more and more........ if WWE really was trying to be the kid friendly role model company they are they would'nt be doing crap like this. if the average fan and the kidies parents knew what went on behind the scenes in WWE they'd probably shit they're pants. in the imortal words of the best in the world at what he does they're all just a bunch of hypocrits!

Skippord 08-19-2010 01:57 AM

oh no the WWE didn't hire a womens wrestler

I'M OUTRAGED

Aguakate 08-19-2010 02:11 AM

Wow, I feel horrible for "Sexy Star", as she takes wrestling seriously, she actually LOVES wrestling, and just wants to do what she does, unlike many of the women who want to get into wrestling just so that they can use it as a stepping stone to get into Hollywood or whatever.

They most likely hurt the feeling of a girl who really IS a wrestler...just CRUSHED her. That is SO wrong.

Vastardikai 08-19-2010 03:32 AM

C'mon the guy who got where he was by making kissy faces to Mrs. Baba and then to Stephanie McMahon is the most fucking worthless thing in WWE, and that covers a lot of ground. Part of the reason Booker T left WWE is because Laurinitis chose FCW as the new WWE developmental territory over his school. T's school had better equipment and an actual facility. FCW was close to all the clubs Laurinitis likes to go to.

Dear Lord I hope a sexual harassment suit comes from this, if it's true.

Tom Guycott 08-19-2010 03:55 AM

Hey BizarroKing, to answer your first "question 2", Gail Kim. Wasn't that long ago where she and more or less BUILT the women's division in TNA.

It's kind of depressing that it's the way of the business. I personally thought Maria looked like a rodent in the face and wrestled about as bad as Otunga (well... okay, no she didn't), but WWE made her a star. On the other side of the coin, TNA's Knockout division was gaining steam, and at the apex weither the chick was pretty or not, most of them could go in the ring and were getting over. In some cases, better than some of the men on the roster. But, we can't have that as it flies in the face of the wrestling biz, so that shit got derailed, and it is back to "unanimously sexy" cookie-cutter first. Ring and mic skills are a bonus.

Vastardikai 08-19-2010 03:59 AM

Worst thing is, there HAVE been times when Women's Wrestling has been considered as important as men's wrestling. The peak of the Joshi scene in Japan is one of them. The peak of the Knockout Division in TNA is another one. Wendi Richter was as big of a draw as a Hogan before the Spider-Lady thing happened.

Skippord 08-19-2010 05:37 AM

also this isn't sexist at all

Next Big Thing 08-19-2010 07:28 AM

Is Playboy sexist for not wanting to put women that look like the offspring of Whoopie Goldberg and Barbara Walters on the cover? Is Victoria's Secret sexist for not having women with the body type of the Stay Puff Marshmallow Man walk down the runway? Is Abercrombie sexist for not having men that look like Comic Book Guy on their cover?

Just like Playboy, Victorias Secret, and Abercrombie WWE has an image that they want to portray. If they choose to be superficial then so be it. Can we really be surprised by the company that gave us Slick, Kerwin White, Cryme Thyme, made Trish Stratus bark like a dog, and had women wrestling in gravy?

Sexy Star looks damn good though and is very capable in the ring. Too bad TNA aborted it's Knockouts Division and has Bischoff in charge or else they could have really had something off of this.

Troelar 08-19-2010 07:49 AM

Bottom line: If the consumer doesn't punish WWE for being sexist, then they're going to continue. If this came out in a big hype and Eric Cartmans mother got involved, I'm sure WWE ratings would plummet. Then we might see some changes around the Divas, but that's not gonna happen.

Tom Guycott 08-19-2010 08:00 AM

NBT asked: "Is Playboy sexist for not wanting to put women that look like the offspring of Whoopie Goldberg and Barbara Walters on the cover?"

No, but they also don't tell a beautiful supermodel "Hey, you can't be in our magazine because you suck at math." Sure, it would be a plus if she were smart, but in the end, the product Playboy produces IS entirely image. With this example applied to the argument, a woman's wrestling ability- and I'm speaking wrestlers, not valets- should be the "looks", and their looks should be the "math". In a wrestling match, I'd rather see a Jazz than a Lacey Von Erich, although by standards of looks, Lacey would make the superior arm charm.

Tom Guycott 08-19-2010 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Next Big Thing (Post 3207263)
Is Playboy sexist for not wanting to put women that look like the offspring of Whoopie Goldberg and Barbara Walters on the cover? Is Victoria's Secret sexist for not having women with the body type of the Stay Puff Marshmallow Man walk down the runway? Is Abercrombie sexist for not having men that look like Comic Book Guy on their cover?
.

Okay, I get it now. This is what I was tryna do. LOL @ teh N00b!!1!!eleven!!!

Next Big Thing 08-19-2010 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 3207267)
NBT asked: "Is Playboy sexist for not wanting to put women that look like the offspring of Whoopie Goldberg and Barbara Walters on the cover?"

No, but they also don't tell a beautiful supermodel "Hey, you can't be in our magazine because you suck at math." Sure, it would be a plus if she were smart, but in the end, the product Playboy produces IS entirely image. With this example applied to the argument, a woman's wrestling ability- and I'm speaking wrestlers, not valets- should be the "looks", and their looks should be the "math". In a wrestling match, I'd rather see a Jazz than a Lacey Von Erich, although by standards of looks, Lacey would make the superior arm charm.

http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2010/...hatthehell.jpg

Snowden 08-19-2010 09:46 AM

Sexist, no. Pragmatic, yes. Lets face it, the WWE has trained their fanbase to look at the divas as eye candy and nothing more. Promoting women who they don't view as someone "The universe" would be attracted to would be an incredibly silly business decision for them.

Plus, don't expect them to put an actual women's match together in the ring...they won't go longer than a couple of minutes. That being put into consideration, why NOT hire someone whose good looking over good in the ring, if the former is what you're selling?

Kane Knight 08-19-2010 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wishbone (Post 3207068)
damnit WWE just keeps pissing me off every single day more and more........ if WWE really was trying to be the kid friendly role model company they are they would'nt be doing crap like this. if the average fan and the kidies parents knew what went on behind the scenes in WWE they'd probably shit they're pants. in the imortal words of the best in the world at what he does they're all just a bunch of hypocrits!

WWE spends a lot of time obsessing about look, male or female. You're not going to get somewhere in WWE without either image, legacy, or the ability to endear yourself to the boss. This business is heavily based on look, probably less than mic skills but more than wrestling talent.

"Family Friendly" does not equal hypocritical because they want "sexy" women.

That being said, is anyone really surprised that WWE is prejudicial?

Kane Knight 08-19-2010 10:10 AM

And pelase guys, don't make me defend WWE's policies. I feel dirty doing it.

Ermaximus 08-19-2010 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 3206930)
I think they're more racist than sexist.

Dead on the money.

Next Big Thing 08-19-2010 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 3206930)
I think they're more racist than sexist.

Not buying it. They made Booker a king, gave Ron Simmons his own catchphrase, and there have been TWO latino heavyweight champions... on Smackdown :shifty:


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