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Swiss Ultimate 08-19-2010 10:48 AM

If you were going to reboot DC...
 
how would you do it? Where would you start? Who would you keep and who would you cut? Why?

Fignuts 08-19-2010 10:49 AM

I wouldn't because the continuity is already fucked as it is.

BigDaddyCool 08-19-2010 11:03 AM

I wouldn't because DC is gay.

Swiss Ultimate 08-19-2010 11:04 AM

I'd start everything out in 1938 so my characters could focus on the Nazis as their major villains. I'd keep the core characters like Superman, Batman, Flash, Aquaman, Wonderwoman, Green Lantern and have the core villains come after the WW2 storyline was finished. Basically I'd have each character involved in the war in their own way while making major changes to their character.

Superman will be recruited by the US military at the age of 16, he'll be super-strong and invulnerable but he won't have super-speed or x-ray vision and he won't be able to control his flying ability. He's still an alien though.

Batman will be in pre-hero mode, basically Batman Begins for the entire WW2 story-arc. He'll be a well-to-do rich-boy who enlists and becomes an army sniper. This is where he will learn of his hatred for killing. Basically, he'll be just way too good at killing people and regret the ease in which he did it while everyone around him seemed to die. His comic will be a bit like Band of Brothers and focus on what key events turn him into a vigilante.

Flash will be an America scientist working with Einstein and others who accidentally becomes the Flash while trying to build a bomb.

Wonderwoman is going to be a British spy who infiltrates the Nazis and discovers by accident her magical heritage.

Aquaman will be a British sailor who learns that he was born with the ability to breathe underwater and command the creatures of the sea. Basically the first DC "mutant".

Green Lantern will be an alien sent to Earth to observe Superman, he'll eventually be killed and have to give his ring to a human. Yellow will not be a weakness.

Swiss Ultimate 08-19-2010 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 3207358)
I wouldn't because DC is gay.

Are you capable of un-gaying it?

BigDaddyCool 08-19-2010 11:09 AM

Yes I am, but willing, no I am not.

Fignuts 08-19-2010 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DeathtotheSwiss (Post 3207359)

Green Lantern will be an alien sent to Earth to observe Superman, he'll eventually be killed and have to give his ring to a human. Yellow will not be a weakness.

Japanese people are yellow, and they are part of who green lantern is fighting against. You have to keep the yellow weakness.

BigDaddyCool 08-19-2010 11:19 AM

One thing that would have to be done is scaling back Superman's power.

Fignuts 08-19-2010 11:57 AM

I would replace Darkseid with Thanos. Far more interesting character.

dronepool 08-19-2010 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3207414)
I would replace Darkseid with Thanos. Far more interesting character.


That's very debatable.

BigDaddyCool 08-19-2010 01:25 PM

They are both big cosmic jerks.

Fignuts 08-19-2010 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dronepool (Post 3207482)
That's very debatable.

Perhaps, but I'm with Thanos.

Fignuts 08-19-2010 02:28 PM

I mean he definitely started off as nothing more than a Darkseid rip-off, but Jim Starlin fleshed him out throughout the years, and between his obsession with death and his subconscious giving up the omnipotence he always achieved, he became a very complex and interesting character.

The other reason I like Thanos is that he is more human than Darkseid. Thanos still has that presence and feel of a cosmic power, but at the same time being at least somewhat relatable, thanks to his personality. That's not an easy task to accomplish. It also makes the evil things he does more hard hitting to me. Because Darkseid is typically very cold, and emotionless. Like he is above things like a concience or humanity, and is more like a force of evil nature. Thanos does what he does, because he chooses to. He isn't a god, and he has a concience and some shred of humanity. He just chooses to ignore it most of the time.

Fignuts 08-19-2010 02:30 PM

Also, you gotta love Thanos' sense of humor. He's written with a very dry, sarcastic wit, and he doesn't utilize it often. Just enough where it doesn't seem out of character, and it works. You wouldn't think it would, with a character like this, but fortunately, most of the people who have written him, understand him really well.

Lock Jaw 08-19-2010 02:42 PM

I wouldn't reboot it. I'd just make a separate line of comics. Much like they are doing.

They are coming out with their "Earth-One" graphic novel series, which is supposed to basically modernize everybody or something. Announced so far is Superman by J. Michael Straczynski and Batman by Geoff Johns.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Earth_One.jpg

If that goes well, then perhaps start up an "Earth-Two" line that can continue the adventures of the All-Star Squadron during WWII and beyond.

Fignuts 08-19-2010 02:43 PM

Wait, so is writing Thor now?

Boondock Saint 08-19-2010 02:47 PM

I would have a Crisis...then another....and another...

Boondock Saint 08-19-2010 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3207656)
Wait, so is writing Thor now?

Kieron Gillen writes it now up until 614, then Matt Fraction takes over

Lock Jaw 08-19-2010 02:49 PM

I think Matt Fraction writes Thor now.

EDIT- Or what he said

BigDaddyCool 08-19-2010 02:53 PM

I would have an ultimate crisis.

Swiss Ultimate 08-19-2010 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 3207377)
One thing that would have to be done is scaling back Superman's power.

Agreed. I'd do a long-term story arc where the more powerful he gets the closer he gets to death, sort of like a star going super nova though.

BigDaddyCool 08-19-2010 03:46 PM

i don't know about all that.

Fignuts 08-19-2010 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathtotheSwiss (Post 3207821)
Agreed. I'd do a long-term story arc where the more powerful he gets the closer he gets to death, sort of like a star going super nova though.

All-star Superman

Swiss Ultimate 08-19-2010 04:54 PM

I am just really tired about where main-stream comics have ended up. Marvel and DC have gotten stale.

Lock Jaw 08-19-2010 05:02 PM

So make your own comic book company. With blackjack... and hookers!

McLegend 08-19-2010 05:05 PM

That sounds like it would be really hard to do.

Swiss Ultimate 08-19-2010 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 3207991)
So make your own comic book company. With blackjack... and hookers!

Join me?

Fignuts 08-19-2010 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathtotheSwiss (Post 3207973)
I am just really tired about where main-stream comics have ended up. Marvel and DC have gotten stale.

Ummmmm gotta strongly disagree.

Captain America, Daredevil, Iron Man, Thor, Batman, Green Lantern, Iron Fist, Moon Knight, anything written by Gail Simone, and all of Marvel's cosmic stuff have all been great.

Fuck, even Spider-man with his new The Gauntlet story arc, and Superman with New Krypton, are interesting again, after over a decade of being utterly boring.

Swiss Ultimate 08-19-2010 08:55 PM

I thought the death of Captain America and Captain America VS. the Tea Party were kind of retarded.

Fignuts 08-19-2010 09:04 PM

It's best if you read from the very beginning of the volume, all the way through all three Death of Captain America sets.

The overall story isn't about steve rogers death, but about bucky's ressurection and transition into becoming the new cap. Something I never thought they could do, but it's executed beautifully.

Also, I thought Cap's death was a great break from the cliche norm. It was gritty and realistic, but at the same time he still went out a hero.

Fignuts 08-19-2010 09:09 PM

Definitely agree with you on the tea party thing. Was pretty tasteless, no matter what side you are on, and writers really shouldn't be using the book and characters to preach their political stance. It's rarely that blatant and in your face though, and there was a lot of backlash from it, so I don't think we'll be seeing anything like that again soon.

Fignuts 08-19-2010 09:12 PM

I hate superman with a passion. More than I hate any other character. So if I can enjoy a superman story, you know it's good. Only ones I've ever enjoyed were Kingdom Come, All-Star Superman, and Brainiac/New Krypton

Lock Jaw 08-19-2010 09:43 PM

The whole New Krypton thing was way too long. If they cut out all of the filler and expanded on the parts where actual things were happening, it could have been Awesome.

Fignuts 08-19-2010 09:50 PM

http://extmovie.com/zbxe/files/attac...by_duss005.jpg

dronepool 08-19-2010 09:53 PM

^ that's fucking cool

LoDownM 08-19-2010 09:58 PM

Was really hoping they had a Darkseid vs Thanos, or a team up type thing, back when they did Marvel vs DC.

edit, I don't follow comics anymore, so if they did do one, awesome.

Lock Jaw 08-19-2010 10:18 PM

I think Darkseid and Thanos DID do something during Marvel vs DC, didn't they?

Apparently there is also a Darkseid/Galactus comic out there as well.

LoDownM 08-19-2010 10:20 PM

If they did it was in the 4th book for Marvel vs DC, which I don't have and have only read once.

Fignuts 08-19-2010 10:40 PM

Never did anything susbstantial in any of the Marvel vs Dc books. Would love to see that done with the writers of today. Maybe a Brubaker/Morrison team up.

dronepool 08-19-2010 10:55 PM

Morrison writing Dr. Strange or any mystic character at Marvel would be sweet.


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