This Is England is superior to American History X
 

There...I've said it.

I feel so much better now.

Never seen it, but it sounds interesting. Perhaps I will watch it and then report my findings.

It's not even close. American History X is one of the most overrated films ever. It's decent enough and has a couple of very good performances from Furlong and Norton, but to be honest I think so many dickheads just have a hard on for it because of the "kerb stomp" nonsense and because they miss the point of the film. I think it feeds more into a latent racist feeling despite the message of the film. It's really not that good.

This Is England is a great film. It's genuinely creepy and chilling when this thug and his racist poison starts to creep into this good, nice group of friends. This Is England is a believable and real tale of the effect of fascism on society. You can believe in the characters and their relationships, whereas American History X is full of caricatures.

*Curb Stomp

I am going to download This is England this weekend.

It can be spelt kerb you stupid dickhead.

If they did it in THIS IS ENGLAND you could say Kerb.

In AHX it is Curb. We are Amurrican.

The last 20 minutes of This is England > the curb stomp, or for that matter, any part of American History X.

No. Nowadays "kerb" means those things by the road while "curb" is the verb meaning to control or limit something.

It is still a Curb where I live...

Fuck it, who cares, I dont feel like starting an argument over this dumb shit. I was just fucking with you to start.

Submission victory.

Fuck it, its on.

http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/dmanual...r07-manual.htm

Search Curb....

You tapped already. The doctor is checking your pulse while I flex my bulging biceps.

Im going to find you in the parking lot a la Sensei Kreece, though I will not being cutting my hands on car windows this time.

Has the England '86 show started yet on C4?

Did you know you can be redeemed for curb stomping a black guy by making friends with one in prison?

Watch 'Dead Mans Shoes', its better than both.

Romper Stomper

Nope, sorry Swiss but incorrect.

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I've enjoyed AHX better.

It might be because I haven't seen This Is England, but who knows.

No, not a chance. Dead Man's Shoes is good enough but not better than This Is England. There's some massive plot issues in Dead Man's Shoes.

Like what?

plz explain.

I do like all three though.

The scene where they confront him with a rifle, shoot once then leave. The drug spiking scene. The actual acid trip scene is brilliant but getting there was unfortunately just too stupid for me to overlook.

There were another couple of things too. It was a film with a great atmosphere and brilliant performances, but unfortunately some of the plotting was not intelligent but just downright contrived and that detracted from the film for me, making it just ok and not great.

I've kind of been hoping there would be an International war on TPWW ever since I got here. There have been close calls but there was never something to take it over the top.

I can start one over American football any time. Yanks always get really furious.

Some of us don't care about football though. The best thing would probably be the food. Every time there is a thread about food I sense International tensions.

Yeah, we have d bags who dont like football. Fucking shit boxes.

I own it but, aside from Russell Crowe I don't really enjoy it all that much.

ECG basically said everything I believe about the two movies already. What I thought was brilliant about This Is England was that it showed believably how people can be brain-washed. American History X jumped from "regular kid" to "White Supremacist Killer" without enough backstory.

Norton was amazing in the film but yeah, it kind of made racism look good for Christ's sake.

I am still planning of re-editing the film and taking all of the positive message out. I think it would be disturbingly funny.

Are we talking about real football or just soccer?

Real football is what you pansies call soccer.

which is oddly enough for huge pansies

:rofl:

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index....e-word-soccer/

Seriously, do some research.

Plus when the sport became popular in America we already had a sport called football.

Just watched This is England on Netflix. Definitely the better film.

Pretty stupid that they're making a series out of it, imo. Works fine as a stand alone film.

Didn't bother watching the first episode last night but its only a 4 episode series so it might work. Gonna watch the first episode later in work.

Meadows says that if this series is successful, that he will follow it with another though. So who knows where it will end.

At least it's being done by all the same people, so that's something.

See, Europeans are more confused about their own sport than we are. We're just confused about why they think it's fun. They can't even get the name right.