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FourFifty 09-15-2010 08:16 PM

Top 5 lamest finishers today
 
So I was thinking today about some really crappy moves. Things that WWE uses as there "powerful" match ending moves. So I was thinking... How many bad finishers are in the industry today? Well I came up with (my list of) the 5 lamest finishers. Now feel free to put your own in, and I'm hoping to hear about bad finishers in TNA (since I don't watch it).

And I kick off my list with a tie.

5- The Brain Chop OR The KO Punch: Great Khali or The Big Show
In a world where people are constantly getting hit in the head by virtually everything except the kitchen sink (and possibly the kitchen sink in a hardcore match) a blow like that seems somewhat pointless.
Due to their size they can do damn near anything as a believable finisher, even a simple blow like that. However, it's the set up that annoys me. Wait until you've knocked down someone half your size a few dozen times in a match and THEN go in for that kill shot? It could be a great sudden hit, but a set up for something like that is lame.

4- Tadpole Splash: Swog
We've seen the Banzi Drop, The Vader Bomb (even seen Vader do a moonsault), The Superfly Splash, etc etc etc. Having a midget jump off the top turnbuckle is less than good. Seriously, who came up with the idea of having a midget do this?

3- STF: John Cena
He just looks like he's laying on top of someone, with his wrist crossed. The way Cena sells his own move is like Hogan selling another wrestler's move. It's cold, unbelievable, and and looks like it's not doing anything.

2- The Cobra- Santino Marella
........I know Santino is a comedic persona, but come on, there is no chance he can be taken as any kind of serious as long as he does the cobra. He just has no chance to ever be taken as anything serious ever again as long as he employees The Cobra as a finisher.

1- The Playmaker- MVP
It's so... generic. By no means is it a bad move for a wrestler's arsenal, but as a finisher it's forgettable. He needs to either drop the move or do something else and call it the play maker.


Honorable Mentions from the past
The People's Elbow- Hella over, but it's just an elbow drop
Hogan's Leg Drop- Ditto, only a leg drop
The Worm- Ditto, only a chop
The Pounce- Period.

Jordan 09-15-2010 08:29 PM

Play Maker for the win

Next Big Thing 09-15-2010 08:38 PM

I'm sorry but... Edge's spear has been pretty fucking weak lately. He just doesn't have the body type anymore to make it believable, especially when you watch Rhino use it today or old clips of Goldberg.

Rey's 619 into the splash is another one that doesn't do it for me. Especially if he's working the bigger guys.

CSL 09-15-2010 08:41 PM

Big Show using a punch for his finish is the greatest thing ever.

DLVH84 09-15-2010 08:47 PM

John Cena ruined the STF. Masahiro Chono should beat the hell out of Cena for stealing a move that was passed to Chono from his mentor, the master of the STF, Lou Thesz.

CSL 09-15-2010 08:51 PM

Hey folks, my name is DLVH84 and I like puro. I will keep reminding you of this ;)

Supreme Olajuwon 09-15-2010 09:31 PM

KO Punch is badass.

Also remember the time Cena accidentally choked Edge unconscious with the STF? Pretty fake looking stuff.

Skippord 09-15-2010 09:37 PM

how have you people not mentioned the Lie Detector yet

awful

VSG 09-15-2010 09:37 PM

MVP is using a version of Shelton's Paydirt. I think he calls it the Play of the Day.

Add the Barrett Roll to the list.

Wishbone 09-15-2010 09:39 PM

DDE (Pope's running knee strike to the corner), AJ Styles' Pelle (or however you spell it) Kick, Lie Detector (R-Truth's spinning elbow deal)

Xero 09-15-2010 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3246437)
Hey folks, my name is DLVH84 and I like puro. I will keep reminding you of this ;)

lol

bigslimjj 09-15-2010 09:43 PM

1. Attitude adjustment-it's a fireman's carry.
2. khali's chop-it could kill someone for real,but it's weak as a "wrestling finisher"
3.tadpole splash- ridiculous that anyone sells this.
4. Kelly kelly's K2
5. Tommy Dreamer's ddt-no one cares about this move for some reason anymore.It's mostly used by chicks,and is no sold on concrete.It just looks weak now. Including Drew Mac's.

bigslimjj 09-15-2010 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Wishbone (Post 3246482)
DDE (Pope's running knee strike to the corner), AJ Styles' Pelle (or however you spell it) Kick, Lie Detector (R-Truth's spinning elbow deal)

The Pele kick is awesome.

Destro 2.0 09-15-2010 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VSG (Post 3246480)
MVP is using a version of Shelton's Paydirt. I think he calls it the Play of the Day.

Add the Barrett Roll to the list.

I wish he would do the Shining Playa's Boot more.

DLVH84 09-15-2010 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destro 2.0 (Post 3246499)
I wish he would do the Shining Playa's Boot more.

I AM MVP!!!

What Would Kevin Do? 09-15-2010 09:54 PM

McIntyre's ddt is awesome.

Edge's spear, R-Truths Lie Detector

Definitely the Play Maker

Code Red/ Whatever the hell Melina calls it

Can't think of a 5th off the top of my head

Destro 2.0 09-15-2010 09:57 PM

I don't like the Flux Capacitor the Move Kaz does I think it looks dumb as hell.

Lock Jaw 09-15-2010 10:03 PM

Don't know why people hate the playmaker. If it is that move where he puts his foot on the dude's head and spins them around, it is a decent finisher.

Certainly better than picking someone up in a fireman's carry and either dropping them to the side (Cena) or in the front (Barret).

Destro 2.0 09-15-2010 10:04 PM

The Pedigree needs to go Triple H getting a new finisher wouldn't hurt.....

CSL 09-15-2010 10:07 PM

No.

Calamondin 09-15-2010 10:09 PM

1) Barrett's finisher is AWFUL. It is just awkward and weak looking.

2) The same with Edge's spear.

3) Brain Chop.

4) Playmaker is pretty bad. Have no idea how it's supposed hurt anyone.

5) Barrett's finisher is really, really bad. It deserves another spot.

SuperSlim 09-15-2010 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wishbone (Post 3246482)
DDE (Pope's running knee strike to the corner), AJ Styles' Pelle (or however you spell it) Kick, Lie Detector (R-Truth's spinning elbow deal)

I didn't think the Pelle was really a finisher but more just an out of the blue kind of move to shift momentum and give AJ a chance to "recuperate."

But Lie Detector... truly sucks
Brain chop is horrible
The KO punch is only believable cause of Big Show's size but it's one of those that should be done quickly. Not wrestle for 10 or so minutes and then do it.
And the only problem with the Playmaker... is that everyone has done it. I mean... who hasn't had that move as a finisher at some point in their career?
There are others... but there are just too many crappy finishers out there.

BollywoodSingh 09-15-2010 10:18 PM

5 lame moves off the top of my head:

Undertaker - Hell's Gate. He doesn't know how to apply it.

Dolph Ziggler - Zig Zag. It doesn't look very effective and usually looks really sloppy.

I like Rey's 619, but I don't like how everyone over sells it by jumping to the middle of the ring so Rey can do the springboard move he does.

Edge's spear. I've always thought it's been weak. He should use the Edgecutioner.

Khali's Chop or Big Show's punch - The main reason I don't like these is that, realistically, it would seem easy for these guys to just use the move early in the match.

DLVH84 09-15-2010 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destro 2.0 (Post 3246521)
I don't like the Flux Capacitor the Move Kaz does I think it looks dumb as hell.

I agree. He's trying to do a one-man Spanish Fly, which Los Maximos does together.

Wishbone 09-15-2010 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperSlim (Post 3246565)
I didn't think the Pelle was really a finisher but more just an out of the blue kind of move to shift momentum and give AJ a chance to "recuperate."

But Lie Detector... truly sucks
Brain chop is horrible
The KO punch is only believable cause of Big Show's size but it's one of those that should be done quickly. Not wrestle for 10 or so minutes and then do it.
And the only problem with the Playmaker... is that everyone has done it. I mean... who hasn't had that move as a finisher at some point in their career?
There are others... but there are just too many crappy finishers out there.

I believe it was about a month ago he won a match with the pelle kick can't remember who he pinned thow

Schlomey 09-15-2010 10:37 PM

I, like many others, LOVE Big Shows KO punch.

VSG 09-15-2010 10:54 PM

Melina using a version of the Canadian Destroyer is bad, even if a Canadian called her the best diva today.

Lock Jaw 09-15-2010 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperSlim (Post 3246565)
And the only problem with the Playmaker... is that everyone has done it. I mean... who hasn't had that move as a finisher at some point in their career?

I do not recall anyone else using that as a finisher. (If the playmaker is indeed the spinning leg thingy)

XCaliber 09-15-2010 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 3246618)
I do not recall anyone else using that as a finisher. (If the playmaker is indeed the spinning leg thingy)

Off the top of my head both Randy Orton and Test used the same move.

DInsaneOne 09-15-2010 11:38 PM

5) Melina's Finisher 4) Tadpole Splash 3) The Cobra 2) Attitude Adjustment (lacks an effort in recent times from cena..he just drops them with no force) 1) 619 (cuz opponents look like total asses trying to find the center of the ring and fall in the middle rope.

Always wonder why those pretty brutal sounding kicks from CM Punk and Evan Bourne are not sold better....everyone seems to pop up like mario after he gets a star.

Damian Rey 09-15-2010 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 3246618)
I do not recall anyone else using that as a finisher. (If the playmaker is indeed the spinning leg thingy)

I'm thinking that Eli Skipper used it at some point. I seem to remember him being the first person I witnessed using. Could be wrong.

blak23 09-16-2010 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calamondin (Post 3246542)
1) Barrett's finisher is AWFUL. It is just awkward and weak looking.

2) The same with Edge's spear.

3) Brain Chop.

4) Playmaker is pretty bad. Have no idea how it's supposed hurt anyone.

5) Barrett's finisher is really, really bad. It deserves another spot.

i feel like the playmaker is supposed to be a neckbreaker

DLVH84 09-16-2010 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VSG (Post 3246607)
Melina using a version of the Canadian Destroyer is bad, even if a Canadian called her the best diva today.

Actually, it's a powerbomb variation, not a piledriver variation that Petey Williams has.

rated rjo 09-16-2010 12:23 AM

5.) Barrett Roll / Wasteland - Not the worst finisher, but it has the same problem as Cena's. At least he sells it well.
4.) Attitude Adjustment - like they said before, the thing is a glorified Fireman's Carry. He sells it well so it doesn't bother me too much.
3.) Zig Zag - between Jericho's Codebreaker and Carlito's backstabber, Ziggler's move just looks ridiculous by comparison
2.) The Playmaker - MVP, stop it.... just stop it.
1.) The Lie Detector - everytime I see it, I still can't believe the thing is a finisher. Looks weak as all hell!

FourFifty 09-16-2010 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blak23 (Post 3246672)
i feel like the playmaker is supposed to be a neckbreaker

I feel like the playmaker is a set up from the other guy to mess up MVP's knee and then put him in a Brock Lock.

What Would Kevin Do? 09-16-2010 12:36 AM

The playmaker is fricking awful, as the guy basically just turns and falls over with the back of his head on the back of MVP's knee. It basically wouldn't hurt anything. A fricking neckbreaker would look like a more painful finisher.

Inadequacy 09-16-2010 12:47 AM

On the flip side the Zack Attack is awesome.

bigslimjj 09-16-2010 01:34 AM

Barrett's has a lot of force behind it,and the name "Wasteland" is awesome. I though Sean O haire's reverse fireman's carry was great looking. I saw someone use it recently.Maybe one of the nexus not sure. Cena's is weak and easy looking. Kaz's Flux capacitor is dope. Just the risk of it and the fact that he hits it perfectly most times. Matt Morgan's Carbon footprint looks really weak as well.

glanville6 09-16-2010 01:45 AM

I don't have a list, and to be honest I don't watch Smackdown or Impact often, but I remember having a conversation with a friend about CM Punk and the GTS. I said the move sucks...but he made me realize how effective the move is. I vote the GTS as one of the least exciting finishers.

DrCrawford 09-16-2010 01:50 AM

i dont like the GTS at all, in name or in appearance


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