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glanville6 10-11-2010 12:35 AM

"They"- Yay or Nay? Hopefully the final "They" Thread SPOILER ALERT IF YOU DIDNT WATCH
 
So, we're you at all surprised by "they?" Do you guys like who "they" are?

Sure, every one figured Hogan and Bischoff. But Jarrett and Hardy? I was shocked by Hardy.

I didn't watch the show, I just read the results.

Here's how I see the conversation to get Hardy to join-

Hogan- "Jeff, brother. How about turning heel and being with Abyss, Easy E, Jarrett and myself?"


Hardy- "Oh, I don't know man. Don't know if I could be a heel, my fans love me."

Hogan-"Listen, brother. I'm having surgery soon. Getting a ton of vicodin. I won't need it all."

Jeff- "I'm in."

Ok, I was waiting to say that since I read he was in the stable.

Anyway, thoughts from you guys now that its official.

Lock Jaw 10-11-2010 12:38 AM

I bet the angle ends when Jarret and Hardy turn on Hogan/Bischoff because they aren't "Jeff" enough.

This will then result in "They" Red and Black and "They" Black and White

The Pope 10-11-2010 12:50 AM

It wasn't a bad reveal but Jeff Jarrett shouldn't be part of "They".

James Steele 10-11-2010 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Pope (Post 3278454)
It wasn't a bad reveal but Jeff Jarrett shouldn't be part of "They".


I am feeling like the explanation will be that this was a way for Jeff Jarrett to "take back" his company from Dixie. Jeff Hardy was surprising as once the shenanigans began I was expecting Angle to turn in similar fashion to Austin at WMX7, ie. wanting/needing the World Title so bad that he would sell his soul/etc.

Interesting to see where they take it. I'm just glad it didn't end in some huge clusterfuck.

Dave Youell 10-11-2010 02:26 AM

Seems like an obvious choice for a heel turn when you think about it, as he's been face forever.

But damn, Jeff Hardy as a heel is something I didn't really consider. Good job TNA!

Instant RVD feud.

The only thing outstanding here is, who the hell was it that brainwashed Joe?

Fignuts 10-11-2010 02:27 AM

Surprising doesn't always mean good.

Prime example right here.

Dave Youell 10-11-2010 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3278506)
Surprising doesn't always mean good.

Prime example right here.

I dissagree, Hardy's never been a heel, this is enough to make me want to see more and this gives us lots of new questions that make me want to watch Impact now:

Is Pope/Sting/Nash (who may/may not be going) faces now?

Joe Vs Jarrett now I guess?

Hardy is set up to face at least: Angle/Anderson/RVD in the next few months, who he's had great matches with recently.

Clearly Jeff isn't strong on the Mic, but, having 'They' being behind him, is a great way to make him a solid heel, to hide that negative and focus on the fact he's champ of what is now the top heel faction in TNA.

This is like when Hogan turned back in 96, I know it's not original, but it was un-expected by pretty much everyone and warrents at least some of my time to see where it goes.

FourFifty 10-11-2010 06:32 AM

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Londoner 10-11-2010 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3278506)
Surprising doesn't always mean good.

Prime example right here.


owenbrown 10-11-2010 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3278506)
Surprising doesn't always mean good.

Prime example right here.

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Dorkchop 10-11-2010 07:57 AM

Why does Russo like turning everyone heel? Jeff Hardy is too loved to make heel... much like Sting and Rey Mysterio. This is why I don't watch TNA

BizarroKing 10-11-2010 08:08 AM

They is a big fat nay!

Xero 10-11-2010 08:09 AM

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...61025_5413.jpg

Kane Knight 10-11-2010 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Youell (Post 3278505)
Instant RVD feud.

The Clash for the Stash?

Xero 10-11-2010 08:10 AM

Hardy's turn was brilliant.

Hogan and Bischoff being in the group, not so much.

VSG 10-11-2010 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glanville6 (Post 3278431)
Hogan-"Listen, brother. I'm having surgery soon. Getting a ton of vicodin. I won't need it all."

Jeff- "I'm in."

:rofl:

Next Big Thing 10-11-2010 08:30 AM

Hardy as a heel with Abyss as the psychopathic enforcer is actually not a bad combo. I guess Jarrett makes a little sense considering he could use the angle to increase his stake in the company. I'm even fine with Bischoff in as the corrupt executive even though it's recycled from the NWO. Most of wrestling is. BUT HOGAN...

NAY. He isn't necessary anymore and all he will do is take away from the potential angles that Hardy can have with RVD, Angle, and Anderson and take away from the potentially good power struggle between Jeff and Dixie.

Isn't it funny how all the TNA original "young guns" got grouped together as the prodigal sons yet are now collectively midcard while the main event scene is nothing but ex WWE guys with Hardy, Anderson, RVD, Angle, and to a lesser extent Bischoff and Hogan.

VSG 10-11-2010 08:34 AM

How are they going to explain Abyss's return despite his "firing" by Dixie "Imma dumb broad" Carter, Angle breaking his retirement oath etc?

Triple Naitch 10-11-2010 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3278650)

These guys are so heel that they don't even use proper grammar.

Gertner 10-11-2010 08:53 AM

.......Not good.

Razzamajazz 10-11-2010 09:26 AM

didn't watch and don't care

dhellova guy 10-11-2010 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VSG (Post 3278664)
How are they going to explain Abyss's return despite his "firing" by Dixie "Imma dumb broad" Carter, Angle breaking his retirement oath etc?

Since when has TNA ever felt the need to explain anything?

Turning Hardy heal is fine, actually it gives him the opportunity to wrestle some guys he couldn't have had a legitimate program with before. But to do it as such a blatent NWO rip-off? Garbage. The whole thing is just confusing. Dumb. Hogans involvement just shows that he still wants the limelight.

This group needs a name. How bout they just go ahead and call themselves tWo. Save everyone the guess work.

Cuse8 10-11-2010 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhellova guy (Post 3278685)
Since when has TNA ever felt the need to explain anything?

Turning Hardy heal is fine, actually it gives him the opportunity to wrestle some guys he couldn't have had a legitimate program with before. But to do it as such a blatent NWO rip-off? Garbage. The whole thing is just confusing. Dumb. Hogans involvement just shows that he still wants the limelight.

This group needs a name. How bout they just go ahead and call themselves tWo. Save everyone the guess work.

the only thing lacking from all this was hardy doing a leg drop on angle..

#BROKEN Hasney 10-11-2010 09:50 AM

Needs more Gangrel. Jeff can only get over as a heel if he drinks blood and comes up through fire in the floor.

Loose Cannon 10-11-2010 09:51 AM

Jarrett looks so out of place in that picture.

I don't know how I feel about this one yet until I here the reasons on Impact on to why they came together. Just seems like a long time to set this thing up for this.

And like Supreme said in the other thread. Abyss turns on Hogan just for him to align back with Hogan? wtf is that?

Ultra Mantis 10-11-2010 10:02 AM

Hogan being the leader of yet another version of the nWo is horrible and the whole way they set it up was made to look like Hogan's initial heel turn, even down to plants throwing trash into the ring.

Hardy as heel is an interesting concept, but every time somebody turns heel (or face, for that matter) in TNA it just seems so random. Samoa Joe's heel turn last year was pretty much exactly the same as Jeff's this year, even down to the excuse "they told me to do it".

BizarroKing 10-11-2010 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon (Post 3278695)
And like Supreme said in the other thread. Abyss turns on Hogan just for him to align back with Hogan? wtf is that?

I was too lazy to watch or care about TNA, is Hogan actually part of the group? Or is it just Bischoff? Because from what I read, he's against the group and didn't celebrate with them.

Ultra Mantis 10-11-2010 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BizarroKing (Post 3278704)
I was too lazy to watch or care about TNA, is Hogan actually part of the group? Or is it just Bischoff? Because from what I read, he's against the group and didn't celebrate with them.

Hogan is very much part of the group, he handed Jeff the crutch to use on Angle.

XL 10-11-2010 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VSG (Post 3278664)
How are they going to explain Abyss's return despite his "firing" by Dixie "Imma dumb broad" Carter, Angle breaking his retirement oath etc?

Ask yourself this: What did Bisch hand to Dixie to sign? Was it a firing order for Abyss? Or might it have been something more important, like control of the company.

As for Angle, I dunno.

Triple Naitch 10-11-2010 10:15 AM

I only read the results, but how long did it take for Hogan to walk to the ring on his crutches? Seems like that would have sucked all the excitement out of the room.

BizarroKing 10-11-2010 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 3278708)
Ask yourself this: What did Bisch hand to Dixie to sign? Was it a firing order for Abyss? Or might it have been something more important, like control of the company.

As for Angle, I dunno.

Considering how dumb Dixie is, I'm sure she signed away to have herself fired instead.

XL 10-11-2010 10:19 AM

A couple minutes. Meanwhile, Bischoff gurned and held his hand to his face in faux "shock" the entire time, when really, if he had wanted, he could have caused some damage with the chair and got the ref to count the pinfall before Hogan even got there.

Kinda pre-empted the Hogan turn IMO.

XL 10-11-2010 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BizarroKing (Post 3278713)
Considering how dumb Dixie is, I'm sure she signed away to have herself fired instead.

Maybe.

Do you mean dumb IRL or in kayfabe? Cos if it's kayfabe it doesn't matter how dumb she is, it was all about the circumstances Bischoff created. Get Abyss to nearly kill RVD, then have him take Dixie hostage, which puts her in a state of mind where she will be panicked and demand that Abyss is sacked. Cue Bisch with the contract - which Dixie won't read cos she has no reason to think that Bisch is pulling a stunt and she wants Abyss gone.

Pretty perfect set-up really.

If you meant IRL, then that has no bearing on the storyline...

The Pope 10-11-2010 10:47 AM

I really want to see how Jeff does on his heel turn.

Schlomey 10-11-2010 10:48 AM

Nay. Just finished the PPV and my review will be up at some point today. Let's just say it's not favorable.

Cuse8 10-11-2010 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple Naitch (Post 3278711)
I only read the results, but how long did it take for Hogan to walk to the ring on his crutches? Seems like that would have sucked all the excitement out of the room.

a good 5 minutes he walked down with some guy and had to have the ropes held open for him

Volare 10-11-2010 11:18 AM

So pretty much, this whole thing has turned Sting and Pope face. (knowing TNA fans they won't know the difference.) So more than likely we'll have Joe vs Jarrett, Sting and Pope vs Bischoff and Hogan, and Hardy vs RVD out of all of this.


Still a clusterfuck.

Nicky Fives 10-11-2010 11:19 AM

Could have been worse, but "they" could have been a whole lot better.....

Schlomey 10-11-2010 11:45 AM

To me, Hogan is coming out of this looking like the biggest piece of shit, liar & contradictionist (new word).

Hogan has been busting his butt coming out week after week saying it's time for the old dogs to move over and the young guys in TNA is where it's at. For a minute I believed that Hogan was actually done being a character and is more of an advocate for the brand.....bullshit. He is still the same ego driven cocksucker that only cares about himself.

Yeah I know it's just a storyline....but he was right.....His time is OVER. NOBODY wants to see Hogan wrestle. Hardly anyone cares at this point because NOTHING he can do now is believable.

I knew it was just a matter of time before the ego of Hogan came back out and he would insert himself in the top storyline.

Impact! 10-11-2010 11:48 AM

I don't get all the hate TNA gets on here. The PPV was actually really good, and the Hardy turn was done really well.


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