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Xero 10-18-2010 05:34 PM

Stand up for WWE/Vince on RAW
 
First thing on WWE.com:

http://www.wwe.com/

YouTube video (same video):

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From PWInsider:

WWE announced on their website that Vince McMahon will be appearing on Raw for a "special announcement." I am going to surmise that the announcement will be the "Stand Up for WWE" campaign. Or maybe he's just going to give us a performance of "Stand Back." Having grown very tired of all the political much in recent weeks and knowing it's only going to get worse until Election Day, I am hoping for the latter.

WWE is now running a list of "Ten Things" fans can do to "Stand up" for the company. Among that list is for fans to tune in for McMahon's announcement tonight. So much for "Stand Back" getting performed!

Xero 10-18-2010 05:36 PM

Am I wrong or would something like this actually force WWE to give equal time to Linda's opponents on RAW?

Juan 10-18-2010 05:38 PM

I thought they were doing this because of the recent investigations by the state of Connecticut over the "independent contractor" thing?

Gerard 10-18-2010 05:38 PM

I find it amusing that he wants people to upload videos on youtube. You'd have people uploading ranting vids with WWE footage supporting them on one hand, with WWE employees running about flagging them for deletion on the other.

Innovator 10-18-2010 05:38 PM

I'm pretty sure they'll skirt around the VOTE FOR LINDA deal, just to avoid that.

Xero 10-18-2010 05:41 PM

WWE Fact: This is considered PG:

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Juan 10-18-2010 05:42 PM

A girl dancing? :?:

Xero 10-18-2010 05:44 PM

Getting crunked, sir.

Regardless, this is clearly to support the campaign. The independent contractor thing is dead in the water for defense. They're independent contractors, there's no way to say they aren't.

What Would Kevin Do? 10-18-2010 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3288295)
Getting crunked, sir.

Regardless, this is clearly to support the campaign. The independent contractor thing is dead in the water for defense. They're independent contractors, there's no way to say they aren't.

Eh, arguments can be made to say they aren't. Independent Contractors have a lot more control than "WWE Superstars."

Courts look at a variety of factors when they decide if someone is an employee vs an Independent Contractor. I'm not trying to say a court wouldn't say they are, I'm just saying it's not as cut and dry as some people would make it seem.

Team Sheep 10-18-2010 06:23 PM

He looks like he's been crying.

erickman 10-18-2010 06:33 PM

i wish tna could hijack that vid have ric flair and beer money drinking beer and goofing on linda and wwe.

Chavo Classic 10-18-2010 06:37 PM

I hate what the WWE has become. This is just embarrassing.

Steveviscious89 10-18-2010 07:06 PM

Yeah I feel very sorry for WWE that they have to do this in order to back Linda. They basically have to embrace an era of their company that has left fans bored to tears with wrestling and turn their backs on the era and style that brought in more fans than the wrestling business has ever seen. Everything that they've been attacked about is stuff that the fans probably actually want. This is a travesty.

parkmania 10-18-2010 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do? (Post 3288341)
Eh, arguments can be made to say they aren't. Independent Contractors have a lot more control than "WWE Superstars."

My wife, who is an independent contractor with the USPS would differ with you.

AJHayes 10-18-2010 07:38 PM

So, it is my humble opinion that this is an AWFUL idea.

WWE's target audience is 9-14 year old males. They're not old enough to vote. A huge majority of Raws audience doesn't live in the Connecticut voting district.

Thus, you are pandering to a bunch of kids and people out of the district. You are ruining a show, the first Raw since TNA had an amazingly strong show on Thursday.

Were I the promoter, this would seem like the opposite of what I would want to happen on a wrestling show.

Why further alienate (see steveviscious89's post) what remains of your most loyal viewers? Why drive them to watch the competition because they want to watch wrestling, not a political platform?

Seems like a dumb idea to me, but, what do I know?

Aguakate 10-18-2010 08:19 PM

I don't know if Vince is doing this with a political motive behind it (helping Linda), but if that's the case, with less than a month before the elections, it's kinda late.

Volare 10-18-2010 08:22 PM

He wants the 18 year old (and higher) members of the WWE universe to move to CT so they can register to vote and vote Linda in.

The Show Off 10-18-2010 09:16 PM

This is a stupid attempt for Vince McMahon to help his wife get elected by lessening the stigma of professional wrestling...

Vince as been ashamed to run a "professional wrestling" company for decades and now he wants his fans to help him show what "professional wrestling" isn't the embarassment he treats it? Good luck.

I find it offensive that he wants the help of wrestling fans to help his wife's campagin in a state that 99% of wrestling fans don't live in. I hate this stupid campagin because it is the ultimate admission by the owner of the biggest wrestling company in the world that he cares about doing anything but running a wrestling promotion.

Aguakate 10-18-2010 09:17 PM

Is "Droz" a part of this campaign?

Juan 10-18-2010 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volare (Post 3288467)
He wants the 18 year old (and higher) members of the WWE universe to move to CT so they can register to vote and vote Linda in.

Clearly

Juan 10-18-2010 09:36 PM

gotta love the overreactions tho.

itsmeJD 10-18-2010 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguakate (Post 3288587)
Is "Droz" a part of this campaign?

Fucking funny....horrible....but funny :rofl:

James Steele 10-18-2010 10:11 PM

I was getting from the video that this has more to do with all the wrestling-themed attack ads against Linda which make WWE to look very bad and he is trying to make his company look good.

erickman 10-18-2010 10:17 PM

i wish tna was a smarter company, this would have been the time for the james gang going around outside goofing on the wwe.

AJHayes 10-18-2010 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erickman (Post 3288764)
i wish tna was a smarter company, this would have been the time for the james gang going around outside goofing on the wwe.

Hell no.

Fuck no.

Hell, no fucking way.

James Gang is fucking awful, and "goofing on" WWE would make TNA look like a spoiled little shit laughing at a sibling for getting in trouble.

erickman 10-18-2010 10:57 PM

i want to watch the james gang get crunk with former 3 live crew member r truth. that would be as good as dx invading wcw vids

Xero 10-18-2010 11:09 PM

http://botchedspot.com/comics/2010-10-18-stand-up.jpg

Savio 10-19-2010 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3288295)
Getting crunked, sir.

Crunked in the way he is saying it means "Hyped" just because he is using a word that has multiple meanings doesnt mean his is using the worst form of it.

ex: The word "Hoe"

BizarroKing 10-19-2010 03:51 PM

I'm tired of standing up for WWE. They blew it, they knew it.

Lock Jaw 10-19-2010 03:58 PM

If you feel them, stand up and say WHAT'S UP

DAMN iNATOR 10-19-2010 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 3289643)
If you feel them, stand up and say WHAT'S UP

Knuckle up, and BLOW DA ROOF UP! :shifty:

RGWhat316 10-20-2010 02:35 AM

Yeah I cant believe this is really going on. It is embarassing to see what WWE is becoming. What made them popular was the edginess, and now they are turning their back 100% on it. They are essentially trying to be a kid-friendly company overnight, and its just not going to happen. Its like me being a nascar fan. Most of the world, not matter what nascar tries to do, will always associate it with being a redneck sport. So just like WWE, it will always be considered trashy and low brow by some.

Xero 10-20-2010 03:06 AM

I wouldn't call a transition that took at least 3 years "overnight". And it's not like this is unknown territory for WWE. In fact, WWE first got huge on this type of stuff.

See: WrestleMania I

Juan 10-20-2010 03:16 AM

lol @ people calling this an embarrassment

Jeritron 10-20-2010 03:21 AM

lol @ wrestling fans in general. What is so bad about this?

Jeritron 10-20-2010 04:02 AM

WWE is about making money. They book to a new demographic to create a new fanbase and do good business. It's the same thing they've always done.

Evil Vito 10-20-2010 11:59 AM

<font color=goldenrod>90% of the people in this thread are idiots. Nothing wrong with trying to take the heat off your company when it's been dragged through the mud because of an election.</font>

The Show Off 10-20-2010 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito 22 (Post 3290761)
<font color=goldenrod>90% of the people in this thread are idiots. Nothing wrong with trying to take the heat off your company when it's been dragged through the mud because of an election.</font>

If he did it to get the heat off his company that'd be one thing but the only reason he's doing this is because of Linda's senate bid. He is trying to use wrestling fans to help her achieve something that effects 1% of his audience and that at least 40% of his audience wouldn't want to endorse anyway.

If this was about making his wrestling company look good this plea would have come out when Eddie Guerrero died or when Chris Benoit died when professional wrestling was getting horrifically slandered. Instead it comes up when to help him politically, which is bullshit. He's trying to use the fervor of wrestling fans for something that by and large they don't care about.

I hate when people in here making statements lime "90% on this thread are idiots" because you disagree with an opinion. Try to have a conversation. Try to make points. Don't jump to the easy dismissivness of claiming people of diffrent opinions are idiots. It not only hurts your chances of making people that disagree with you point see the validity of it, but it also hurts your own chances of seeing the validity of other peoples points.

I know this is a message board and trading barbs is part of the deal, but don't lump yourself in with the idiots by dismissing others and calling them idiots. You're not and idiot, but neither are those that disagree with you. At least not on this point.

Vastardikai 10-20-2010 01:21 PM

I'm still trying to figure out what the Slander is.

Have they miscategorized the wrestlers as "Independent Contractors," possibly illegally? I think a case can be made. And there's an investigation going on as a result.

Have they profited on the backs of dead wrestlers? Certainly. If you argue this fact I have two words for you: Eddie Guerrero.

Is there an environment where the 'boys' are all but required to be on at least pain pills? I would say yes. I would argue that Eddie's release from WWE (for drug related issues) was directly related to the concern of him "losing his spot." In one of his last interviews, Cade said that the reason behind his painkiller addiction was the fear of him "losing his spot" after an injury at a guy who was, wait for it, addicted to pain killers.

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It's getting to the point where my main thing about posting on the wrestling board is talking about the old days and issues like the above.

Innovator 10-20-2010 01:26 PM

Nothing to do with the topic, but I hope WWE gets burned with the "independent contractors" thing.


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