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D Mac 11-13-2010 04:54 PM

Kane
 
Best he has ever been right now? He's had some "evil" streaks in the past but none as dominant as his current push.

SaskatchewanChamp 11-13-2010 05:11 PM

No.

D Mac 11-13-2010 05:13 PM

And why's that.

itsmeJD 11-13-2010 05:21 PM

Kane was pretty god damn unstoppable during his initial push. Setting J.R. on fire, the ring crew guy, and just overall badass. When the first organ chord hit, and the lights when red, you knew whoever was in the ring was gonna get his shit fucked up. Plus, Kane with the mask is just so much more awesome in general.

SaskatchewanChamp 11-13-2010 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itsmeJD (Post 3318471)
Kane was pretty god damn unstoppable during his initial push. Setting J.R. on fire, the ring crew guy, and just overall badass. When the first organ chord hit, and the lights when red, you knew whoever was in the ring was gonna get his shit fucked up. Plus, Kane with the mask is just so much more awesome in general.

That is why.

The Naitch 11-13-2010 05:24 PM

Surprised he even went over Taker in the Buried Alive match.

It just feels like something is lacking. Maybe it's because he's on Smackdown! But technically, his run is going good, even though he is main event lite.

thedamndest 11-13-2010 05:35 PM

It's easily his strongest push as he is the World Champion. As far as the best he's been I would say no. His character feels like a video game villain and he was better in the ring like in 2002 or whenever he came back trimmed down.

The Naitch 11-13-2010 05:37 PM

his unmasking went well though

itsmeJD 11-13-2010 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 3318502)
It's easy his strongest push as he is the World Champion. As far as the best he's been I would say no. His character feels like a video game villain and he was better in the ring like in 2002 or whenever he came back trimmed down.

Well yeah, considering his first reign was what, a day? LOL. I liked him when '02 as well, but when he first came on the scene...was nothing like that random mid-match ass whoppin on Flash Funk or whoever happened to be jobbin...

Anybody Thrilla 11-13-2010 05:45 PM

When he starts clipping people's balls to car batteries, then we can revisit this topic.

Rammsteinmad 11-13-2010 06:54 PM

Kane was awesome when he first unmasked in 2003. He tombstoned Linda, he electrocuted Shane, I believe he set JR on fire again, and destroyed RVD, and my personal favourite... when Shane hit him multiple times with a chair, and then he fell off the stage, and literally a minute later sat up... :eek: and some of his facial expressions at the time were amazingly psychotic.

His push now is going a hell of a lot better than I thought it would have, but seriously, we all know sooner or later Undertaker will return and get his victory. I would love for this to have been the end of their 'final fued' (how many more of these do we need), it'd be nice if Undertaker returned and fueded wth someone else, leaving it to the record books that Kane won this rivalry.

Heisenberg 11-13-2010 08:09 PM

I'll take a Kane push where I can get it, just wish it wasn't in the PG era...

The Naitch 11-13-2010 08:09 PM

wow, I didn't realize that this is his first real title run since 1999

I know he had a shot at the title again vs. Triple H in 2002 (Katie Vick angle), but I always thought he had another small run with the title between then and now. Looking at it, it was the ECW Championship, but that doesn't really count. It's like a sympathy championship when they give it to someone who's been in the game for a while (Christian, Kane, Matt Hardy etc)

How was his run with the ECW Title anyways? I wasn't watching back then. Was he just a transitional champion for that?

Juan 11-13-2010 08:10 PM

Again with the mask

Testicle 11-13-2010 08:11 PM

Disagree with the original post. His first run in 1997, and his unmasking in 2003 were far more impactful and as you say 'evil' than this current run.

Come on, he hooked Shane'o Ma'cs testicles to a car battery in '03. He lit his mother's grave on fire in '97.

Skippord 11-13-2010 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 3318522)
When he starts clipping people's balls to car batteries, then we can revisit this topic.

someone's got a fetish

The Naitch 11-13-2010 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Naitch (Post 3318729)
How was his run with the ECW Title anyways? I wasn't watching back then. Was he just a transitional champion for that?


Anybody Thrilla 11-13-2010 09:43 PM

It was OK, or something. Not nearly as good as Jack Swagger's.

Anybody Thrilla 11-13-2010 09:43 PM

Actually, not even as good as Mark Henry's.

Rammsteinmad 11-14-2010 02:52 PM

To be fair, none of the ECW title runs were memorable, accept maybe RVD's due to his winning it, and the way he lost it.

Anybody Thrilla 11-14-2010 04:20 PM

Christian's was pretty great, if you ask me.

RatedGSuperstar 11-14-2010 04:25 PM

The most memorable thing about Kane's ECW title run was winning it against Chavo at WrestleMania in 9 seconds.

For whatever reason, this World Heavyweight title run has been underwhelming to me, even though it probably shouldn't. He keeps going over in spots where he typically wouldn't (hell, I think I've picked against him in every Tipsters during the reign), and it's to the point where he's already had the 6th-longest reign in WHC history:

1. Batista - 282 days
2. Triple H - 280 days
3. Benoit - 184 days
4. Undertaker - 140 days
5. Booker - 126 days
6. Kane - 119 days and counting

Fignuts 11-14-2010 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 3319416)
To be fair, none of the ECW title runs were memorable, accept maybe RVD's due to his winning it, and the way he lost it.

Big Show actually made the title mean something for a little while there.

Anybody Thrilla 11-14-2010 04:38 PM

Ohhh yeah, Big Show has never looked more credible than his ECW title run.

Lock Jaw 11-14-2010 08:32 PM

Kane should have got this kind of push when he was like this:

http://www.wrestlingworld.co.uk/ekmp...ages/4kane.jpg

SlickyTrickyDamon 11-15-2010 03:52 AM

Yeah, but then he had to go and fight the Undertaker at Wrestlemania 20. That push rested in peace.

The Pope 11-15-2010 11:16 AM

Something like this needs to happen:
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SlickyTrickyDamon 11-15-2010 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Pope (Post 3320497)
Something like this needs to happen:
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Ole' Tombstone Tory :rofl::D

RatedGSuperstar 11-15-2010 05:46 PM

As long as we're posting return vids...

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:'( Test.

Also, every big return needs to be made at MSG.

XL 11-15-2010 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 3318645)
Kane was awesome when he first unmasked in 2003. He tombstoned Linda, he electrocuted Shane, I believe he set JR on fire again, and destroyed RVD, and my personal favourite... when Shane hit him multiple times with a chair, and then he fell off the stage, and literally a minute later sat up... :eek: and some of his facial expressions at the time were amazingly psychotic.

His push now is going a hell of a lot better than I thought it would have, but seriously, we all know sooner or later Undertaker will return and get his victory. I would love for this to have been the end of their 'final fued' (how many more of these do we need), it'd be nice if Undertaker returned and fueded wth someone else, leaving it to the record books that Kane won this rivalry.

Well, given that it was actually Nexus that took out Taker, I'd liek to see Taker v Barrett when he returns.

The Gold Standard 11-15-2010 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RatedGSuperstar (Post 3320885)
Also, every big return needs to be made at MSG.

I agree with this. MSG is always very hot and they seem to be hotter for the people who they respect.


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