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loopydate 12-04-2010 02:26 PM

Randy Orton surpasses Shawn Michaels...
 
...in total time as WWE Champion. The current top ten:

1) Bruno Sammartino 4040 days
2) Hulk Hogan 2184 days
3) Bob Backlund 2138 days
4) Pedro Morales 1027 days
5) John Cena 947 days
6) Bret Hart 654 days
7) Triple H 539 days
8T) Randy Savage 529 days
8T) Steve Austin 529 days
10) Randy Orton 421 days

Read this on another site earlier. I have to admit, this surprised me. Does not seem like Orton's time at the top has been long enough. Or that HBK spent so little time with the belt compared to some of his contemporaries.

Supreme Olajuwon 12-04-2010 02:29 PM

I'm way more shocked that Austin is only 8th.

Aguakate 12-04-2010 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 3344734)
I'm way more shocked that Austin is only 8th.

And that Triple H is only 7th. With as much criticism as he gets for "supposedly" being where he is only because he's Stephanie's husband, you'd think he'd have spent more days as Champion.

Razzamajazz 12-04-2010 02:36 PM

cena beats bret by almost a year :-\

GoneFishing 12-04-2010 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 3344734)
I'm way more shocked that Austin is only 8th.

I was almost suprised when I saw that Cena nearly doubles Austin's record....

loopydate 12-04-2010 02:41 PM

Now I'm kind of curious to see the entire list. May take a shot at putting one together tonight unless someone else is feeling ambitious.

Aguakate 12-04-2010 02:44 PM

Cena has a ways to go before reaching Hogan. Probably never will.

Also, I didn't know Macho Man had spent so much time as Champion.

Supreme Olajuwon 12-04-2010 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguakate (Post 3344739)
And that Triple H is only 7th. With as much criticism as he gets for "supposedly" being where he is only because he's Stephanie's husband, you'd think he'd have spent more days as Champion.

This is only the WWE Championship. Triple H has also been World Heavyweight Champion 616 days.

Aguakate 12-04-2010 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 3344750)
This is only the WWE Championship. Triple H has also been World Heavyweight Champion 616 days.

Oh, ok...so combined, that puts him over Morales into 4th.

That's more like Triple H.

Evil Vito 12-04-2010 02:58 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Sammartino's total time is basically impossible to top. 11 full years as champ. Even combining time for both belts nobody is gonna hold it that long again.</font>

Joe Kerr 12-04-2010 03:12 PM

i thought Hogan was number 1 because in the 80's he always had it. Also surprised at HHH he seemed like another one that always has the title. Lol Rock doesnt even make the list

Anybody Thrilla 12-04-2010 03:21 PM

Triple H's days came in an era where titles switched hands a lot more often. So did John Cena's. Pretty crazy to think that they're already on a list like that.

Londoner 12-04-2010 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 3344780)
Triple H's days came in an era where titles switched hands a lot more often. So did John Cena's. Pretty crazy to think that they're already on a list like that.

I don't seem to remember the title changing hands alot when Cena had his title reigns. :shifty:

Jeritron 12-04-2010 03:27 PM

Austin spent more time chasing the belt than he did holding it, when Vince was keeping it away from him. That's why he's not higher up

BollywoodSingh 12-04-2010 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL (Post 3344782)
I don't seem to remember the title changing hands alot when Cena had his title reigns. :shifty:

Other than Cena's first reign (which was pretty much 14 months, minus the 3 weeks Edge had it) and his 2nd reign (12-13 months), all of his other reigns (World and WWE Title) have been less than 3 months.

Londoner 12-04-2010 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BollywoodSingh (Post 3344787)
Other than Cena's first reign (which was pretty much 14 months, minus the 3 weeks Edge had it) and his 2nd reign (12-13 months), all of his other reigns (World and WWE Title) have been less than 3 months.

Doesn't feel like it.

14 & 12-13 months is pretty ridiculous though these days,especially for his first reigns.

Anybody Thrilla 12-04-2010 03:34 PM

Yeah, he's clearly an outlier.

Nicky Fives 12-04-2010 03:50 PM

suprising...... Never would have thought Orton was so high on the list and HBK was barely Top 10......

Dante69 12-04-2010 05:43 PM

Does this list include the WCW heavyweight title?..........if it did Hogan would reign Supreme

FourFifty 12-04-2010 05:49 PM

The biggest problem with this list is you have to consider how often the strap was defended. I'm sure while HBK is at 11, he defended the title more than Bruno. Not taking anything away from Bruno, Backlund, or Pedro (fuck Hogan) but guys like Cena, Orton, Savage, Bret, etc had to put their title on the line more often.

Emperor Smeat 12-04-2010 06:02 PM

It did take Orton twice as many reigns to topple HBK in total days and about 100 days less than Austin who held it 6 times as well.

Xero 12-04-2010 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FourFifty (Post 3344846)
The biggest problem with this list is you have to consider how often the strap was defended. I'm sure while HBK is at 11, he defended the title more than Bruno. Not taking anything away from Bruno, Backlund, or Pedro (fuck Hogan) but guys like Cena, Orton, Savage, Bret, etc had to put their title on the line more often.

After reading this I'm interest to see who's defended the title the most times. Just don't include house shows post Diesel's win against Backlund. Or just count the prominent defenses, since the pre-RAW era will be dicey.

Johnny Vegas 12-04-2010 06:33 PM

Totally didn't think Savage would be that high, seeing as Hulk dominated the 80s basically. I mean he had his time, but idk...

Team Sheep 12-04-2010 06:50 PM

Apart from his reign as a heel in 2001, Austin never really held the title that long.

whiteyford 12-04-2010 07:02 PM

I knew Sammartino held it the longest, just didnt realise the gap between 1st and 10th was so big, hes almost double Hogans in 2nd. Love to see a comparison to the NWA/WCW title though.

loopydate 12-04-2010 07:45 PM

The complete list (I'm counting all winning-then-losing-it-the-same-night as a 1-day reign, and basing time on WWE.com's title histories):

1) Bruno Sammartino 4040
2) Hulk Hogan 2184
3) Bob Backlund 2138
4) Pedro Morales 1027
5) John Cena 948
6) Bret Hart 654
7) Triple H 542
8) Stone Cold 529
9) Randy Savage 519
10) Randy Orton 421
11) Shawn Michaels 399
12) Diesel 358
13) Brock Lesnar 353
14) The Rock 308
15) Kurt Angle 299
16) Superstar Billy Graham 296
17) Ultimate Warrior 294
18) Yokozuna 281
19) JBL 280
20) Undertaker 238
21) Sheamus 161
22) Edge 139
23) Eddie Guerrero 133
24) Ric Flair 118
25) Chris Jericho 98
26) Sid 97
27) Big Show 78
28) Sgt. Slaughter 64
29) Rob Van Dam 55
30) Jeff Hardy 42
31) Batista 37
32) Mankind 36
33) The Iron Sheik 28
34) Ivan Koloff 21
35) Buddy Rogers 18
36) The Miz 12 and counting
37) Stan Stasiak 9
38) Mr. McMahon 4
39T) Andre The Giant 1
39T) Kane 1

Tazz Dan 12-04-2010 08:01 PM

30) Jeff Hardy 42
31) Batista 37


This made me laugh for some reason :$

Mooияakeя™ 12-04-2010 08:03 PM

Would be different if Vic Venom was writing these days.

Xero 12-04-2010 08:04 PM

His pal Vince Russo would be in the top 20 at least.

Mooияakeя™ 12-04-2010 08:17 PM

Eventually that was a given.

Wolfpack423 12-04-2010 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tazz Dan (Post 3344937)
30) Jeff Hardy 42
31) Batista 37


This made me laugh for some reason :$

I was going to say how is that possible, but then I remember he held the belt the longest with the World Title, but if you combine Batista's reigns he is pretty high up too.

#BROKEN Hasney 12-04-2010 09:02 PM

I read Stan Stasiak as Sean Stasiak and freaked out that I had missed that epic moment in WWE history :'(

#BROKEN Hasney 12-04-2010 09:03 PM

Also amazed that I would trust loopydates facts that much that I would believe that Sean Stasiak held the title if he told me he had.

Xero 12-04-2010 09:20 PM

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...etchampion.jpg

Aguakate 12-04-2010 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3345006)

MEAT!

Mr. Nerfect 12-04-2010 10:50 PM

Things get a little craziak...on Planet Stasiak!

I'm sort of surprised that Orton has cracked the top ten. He's also got 28 days as World Heavyweight Champion.

If you combine the time that Hulk Hogan spent as WCW Champion with his time as WWE Champion, you get a total of 3361, I believe. That's still 679 days behind Bruno Sammartino.

Ric Flair spent 3101 days as NWA World Heavyweight Champion, 506 days as WCW Champion, 118 days as WWE Champion, and I don't know whether people count this, but he spent 63 days as WCW International World Heavyweight Champion. That gives Ric Flair a total of 3788 days as a World Champion. It's tricky with Flair, because it's hard to know just which of his title reigns are considered "cannon," so to speak.

So either way you cut the cheese, Bruno Sammartino is still the leader, with Ric Flair in second and Hulk Hogan in third.

Aguakate 12-04-2010 10:59 PM

The guy at 4th as WWF Champion, Pedro Morales, is from Puerto Rico.

Yes!

YoungFlyFlashy 12-04-2010 11:09 PM

The thing that impresses me the most is that somebody like Shawn, did it in only like 2-3 runs with the belt, same with Savage. They did these numbers in a era where the belt meant something not just a hot potato that is now. So to me honestly I would love for them to add such and such dates in so many title reigns, that would really make the list really feel more legit and add more to some hall of fame resumes!

Dirk Ziggler 12-04-2010 11:51 PM

http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.co...rquette/02.jpg

loopydate 12-04-2010 11:54 PM

Tomorrow I'll try tackling the World Title (since its RAW return, anyway. Too complicated before that), then combining the two. Really interested to see how that changes things.


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