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Fignuts 01-04-2011 10:44 PM

You know what cliche I hate the most about horror movies?
 
When at the end, the villain gets shot, burned, and thrown off a cliff, but right before the credits, he inexplicably pops out of the closet.

Honestly ruins some movies for me because A.) it makes no sense, and B.) It's been done so many times, that it is beyond lame at this point.

Just want to watch horror movies where the villain is fucking dead at the end.

PorkSoda 01-04-2011 10:52 PM

You're not the only one who thinks that.

Also, I hate the horror (slasher) movies where the killer is one place, and then magically appears somewhere else a few seconds later. Does he have a secret passageway from place to place?

Vox Populi 01-04-2011 10:54 PM

I hate when writers and directors feel compelled to write really forced dance scenes for either John Travolta or Cameron Diaz.

In fact, I could probably do without Cameron Diaz altogether, and Travolta's only a few great roles away from being in the same ballpark.

Razzamajazz 01-05-2011 03:22 AM

i hate how there's rarely any more than a minute overall of nudity or a girl getting pounded

Sixx 01-05-2011 06:01 AM

Knock down the villain (with a lamp preferably), don't finish him off, lock yourself in a bathroom with no other way out instead.

VSG 01-05-2011 11:47 AM

Remember Paranormal Activity 1? The whole film built up to that moment which was what lame friends sent you the youtube links to for over a couple of years now :n:

Rammsteinmad 01-05-2011 11:52 AM

Pretty sure this has been in some Friday the 13th movies, and it kinda echoes what PorkSoda said, but I hate when someone is running away from the bad guy, and the bad guy is just walking. You'd think 'okay, that person is running, they should be out of harms way in no time'. So then they start coz they're out of breath, huffing and puffing, when the camera will show someone creeping up behind them and BAH GAWD it's the killer!

Rammsteinmad 01-05-2011 11:52 AM

Who is still walking, I should add.

Sixx 01-05-2011 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 3380570)
Who is still walking, I should add.

And then comes what I explained in my post.

Rammsteinmad 01-05-2011 12:29 PM

Actually I was thinking more along the lines of the person who was running away gets brutally murdered.

But it could easily go your way too.

Sixx 01-05-2011 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 3380639)
Actually I was thinking more along the lines of the person who was running away gets brutally murdered.

But it could easily go your way too.

My way is for the main character.

Yours is for the rest of the cast.

Fignuts 01-05-2011 12:50 PM

Also, could never really get into scream, because come on, it's just a dude with a knife. He's not even really good at it. He's always tripping over stuff. Dude ever tried to kill some one who knew karate, his shit would be ended.

You don't even need karate. You know how that movie ends in real life? Swift kick in the nuts. That's how.

Fignuts 01-05-2011 12:53 PM

ooooo that's another thing I hate. And this is always with female characters. She will somehow knock the villain down, his weapon leaving his hands in the process, and then she just runs away. It's like, "JUST FINISH HIM YOU STUPID CUNT". Because there is always like a bonesaw, or sledgehammer lying around in these scenes, but moron decides she wants to just run away some more.

Sixx 01-05-2011 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3380686)
ooooo that's another thing I hate. And this is always with female characters. She will somehow knock the villain down, his weapon leaving his hands in the process, and then she just runs away. It's like, "JUST FINISH HIM YOU STUPID CUNT". Because there is always like a bonesaw, or sledgehammer lying around in these scenes, but moron decides she wants to just run away some more.

Yeah, pretty much what I said in my first post.

The whole running away usually ends in a bathroom/wardrobe with no other way out.

Nowhere Man 01-05-2011 01:28 PM

'Psychological' thrillers have gotten pretty boring at this point, because 99% of the time it ends up being that the main character was the killer all along, even if it makes absolutely no sense for them to be.

Buzzkill 01-05-2011 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by VSG (Post 3380563)
Remember Paranormal Activity 1? The whole film built up to that moment which was what lame friends sent you the youtube links to for over a couple of years now :n:

This was the only horror movie I have enjoyed in a long time

Lock Jaw 01-05-2011 02:19 PM

Gonna make a horror movie where the villain inexplicably ends up in the audience. Like hire an actor, who sneaks in while it is dark. Near the end of the movie, the lights suddenly turn on in the theater and the villain starts yelling "WHERE AM I?!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRR"

Fignuts 01-05-2011 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzkill (Post 3380790)
This was the only horror movie I have enjoyed in a long time

There havn't been many.

Descent was really good. I enjoyed The Ruins as well.

I liked splice, but I don't know if that should count. I liked it because it wasn't what I was expecting, and was more of a mindfuck type movie than straight horror.

Strangers was good, but I hate it because the villains got away. That's more of a pet peeve though, tbh.

Fignuts 01-05-2011 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 3380832)
Gonna make a horror movie where the villain inexplicably ends up in the audience. Like hire an actor, who sneaks in while it is dark. Near the end of the movie, the lights suddenly turn on in the theater and the villain starts yelling "WHERE AM I?!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRR"

That's actually a really great idea.

Fignuts 01-05-2011 02:39 PM

Also, I know it's not popular opinion, but I liked the grudge. Mainly for that feeling of utter hopelessness, that wherever you go it can get you.

thedamndest 01-05-2011 10:20 PM

Making the bad guy superhuman also makes the movie less believable. If you're going to fire 10 rounds into the guy's chest and he's just going to pop up for six sequels what's the point? It isn't scarier that he's unkillable. In fact it's more predictable.

Sixx 01-05-2011 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 3381683)
Making the bad guy superhuman also makes the movie less believable. If you're going to fire 10 rounds into the guy's chest and he's just going to pop up for six sequels what's the point? It isn't scarier that he's unkillable. In fact it's more predictable.

Yeah, I was thinking that.

Like another time Jason shows up they should all be like "Oh, cmon. You again? Which part of fuck off don't you understand?"

Jeritron 01-06-2011 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3380678)
Also, could never really get into scream, because come on, it's just a dude with a knife. He's not even really good at it. He's always tripping over stuff. Dude ever tried to kill some one who knew karate, his shit would be ended.

You don't even need karate. You know how that movie ends in real life? Swift kick in the nuts. That's how.

Scream isn't really supposed to be entirely serious though. If you hate this cliches, I think you'd enjoy revisiting Scream and watching for how it dissects and shits on them.
I think the killer being a clutz is sort of a running gag. I kinda like that he's not superhuman. It's not like people who prey on women are true badasses.

Jeritron 01-06-2011 04:44 AM

My favorite cliche is everytime there's a scene involving a morgue, the coroner is comfortably eating.
He'll just be sloppily eating a sandwich or bag of chips and be perfectly comfortable putting it down on the dead body while he writes something, and then resuming.
They're trying to tell us that this guy is so desensitized to death that he can pig out in the company of corpses.
It happens in so many movies though.

Sixx 01-06-2011 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 3382050)
My favorite cliche is everytime there's a scene involving a morgue, the coroner is comfortably eating.
He'll just be sloppily eating a sandwich or bag of chips and be perfectly comfortable putting it down on the dead body while he writes something, and then resuming.
They're trying to tell us that this guy is so desensitized to death that he can pig out in the company of corpses.
It happens in so many movies though.

Not only movies, too.

Probably in like 7000 episodes of CSI.

Jeritron 01-06-2011 05:09 AM

Murders in the Rue Morgue

Raven Reaper 01-06-2011 10:28 PM

Anyone seen Feast 2 and 3?

These scenes are sooo stupid I ended up LOLed. Seriously. Except with the baby scene.. FUUUUCKKKK.

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VSG 01-06-2011 10:38 PM

Those Japanese movies are the only ones off late to truly scare me. Still get chills about movies like Audition. A pity they pile up the gore in the end, but the thriller aspect is retained for a long time.

Fignuts 01-07-2011 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raven Reaper (Post 3383170)
Anyone seen Feast 2 and 3?

These scenes are sooo stupid I ended up LOLed. Seriously. Except with the baby scene.. FUUUUCKKKK.

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I HAVE to see these movies. Please god be on netflix.

screech 01-07-2011 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3380854)

Strangers was good, but I hate it because the villains got away. That's more of a pet peeve though, tbh.

That movie is made creepier by the fact that it is entirely possible.

(I know it was based on a true story, but you know what I mean.)

Don't wanna go to a secluded cabin anytime soo...ever.

screech 01-07-2011 01:13 AM

Also I agree with you. I'd like to see a villain stay dead.

Makes me think of the scene from Scrubs where JD hides in a body bag to try to leave and the intern, Doug, starts hitting him: "Dead people are supposed to be dead!"

D Mac 01-07-2011 01:45 AM

I'm with you there Figs. Not surprised they did it in both Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street reboots.

Emperor Smeat 01-07-2011 02:01 AM

How about anytime there is a minority or a black guy as part of the group, they usually are either the 1st ones killed off or get the worst type of kill.

Scary Movie 2 had a scene where this was made fun of (the part where they split up into 2 groups).

Jeritron 01-07-2011 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by D Mac (Post 3383341)
I'm with you there Figs. Not surprised they did it in both Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street reboots.

You shouldn't be, since they did it in the originals, more or less

Jeritron 01-07-2011 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 3383349)
How about anytime there is a minority or a black guy as part of the group, they usually are either the 1st ones killed off or get the worst type of kill.

Scary Movie 2 had a scene where this was made fun of (the part where they split up into 2 groups).

Deep Blue Sea parodies this in both directions. Pretty funny

Sixx 01-07-2011 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 3383349)
How about anytime there is a minority or a black guy as part of the group, they usually are either the 1st ones killed off or get the worst type of kill.

Dude, this ended in like 80s.

Now the minorities are usually the ones to survive.

Droford 01-07-2011 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3383306)
I HAVE to see these movies. Please god be on netflix.

The original Feast is actually really good, I have no idea what the hell they were thinking on 2 and 3 though.

Fignuts 01-07-2011 10:17 AM

looks ike they were thinking BABALITY!

ooTin 01-07-2011 11:39 AM

Oh my god that baby scene....... was AWESOME!!!!!!

Hanso Amore 01-07-2011 05:13 PM

Yeah, black dude always dying went away.

And it is usually a Rapper like Ice Cube or Busta Rhymes that lives.


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