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Xero 01-22-2011 01:41 PM

What if Shawn Michaels never broke his back?
 
When Shawn Michaels hit the casket at Royal Rumble 1998, it pretty much sealed the first part of his carrer's fate, allowing him to take several years off and return to what was arguably the better part of his career.

However, what if it never happened, and he went over the casket, or landed flat-back on it? Would he have continued wrestling? Would he still have taken time off? Would he have been a bigger part of the Attitude Era? Would the second half of his career ever have happened?

There are many possibilities, so let's discuss them.

#BROKEN Hasney 01-22-2011 01:43 PM

He'd be dead from drugs and would have been te frat high profile victim. He would have had his breakdown earlier but gone to WCW when let go and continued getting high.

Nightwing 01-22-2011 02:16 PM

I dont think hed be alive. That brilliant second half of his career would have never happened for sure.

OldSchoolFan 01-22-2011 02:59 PM

The only thing we know for sure is that we would not be discussing it :)

Sixx 01-22-2011 03:06 PM

He would have never lost his smile, he would have never found Jesus, so he would most likely die from all the coke he was snorting.

RiX1024 01-22-2011 03:16 PM

He would be a washed up has-been in a few years, still refusing to put certain guys over, high on drugs most of the time and maybe buggered off to WCW and raise havoc over there.

ttetf 01-22-2011 03:25 PM

We would have gotten to see HBK vs. The Rock

The Fugitive 01-22-2011 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ttetf (Post 3402816)
We would have gotten to see HBK vs. The Rock

Not if you believe the rumours about Rock despising Shawn. Oh, and this post from Rob.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob
Basically when Rocky debuted, HHH and Michaels (especially the latter) shit all over him and picked on him purely because he was a new guy and that Bret Hart took a shine to him. If you remember Bret Hart wrestling Rocky in April 1997, Michaels told Vince to book this match and put the IC title on Bret basically to serve two purposes - Depush Rocky and Bret (if Bret had the IC belt, he'd be out of world title picture). Bret however refused to go over and wanted to lose to Rocky but Michaels went nuts and Vince had to settle on a DQ. Within weeks, Vader was planned to win the belt from him but he got arrested in Kuwait so Owen Hart beat him instead.

Although they hated Rocky in part to HHH having to drop the IC belt to him, they forget that had Michaels not faked a knee injury, he would have lost the WWF title to Sid Vicious as planned and the IC title match wouldn't have even happened.

Rocky wasn't depushed any more after this because Bret continously went to bat for him.

Yeah so Rock doesn't have a short memory.

Now, I do predict James may see this and feel the need to say something. To counter any argument about 'that quote's bullshit', I don't know if it's true, I don't know if it's false but either way, I don't care if that's fact or fiction. I would have liked to see Rock and HBK go one on one, however it's not going to happen with Shawn being retired and Rock having interests outside of wrestling and I hope we can agree that's a damn shame.

Emperor Smeat 01-22-2011 04:33 PM

He probably would have reached the status Undertaker enjoys with the fans loving him due to either his long career with the WWE or his quality matches/feuds. Vince might also have rewarded HBK the same he does for Undertaker's loyalty and help with the annual break and title reign.

It is also possible that Triple H either never would have risen to the top as quickly as he did or at least postpone it for another few years since he started to take off once he led DX and eventually the Rock-HHH feud.

Nicky Fives 01-22-2011 05:45 PM

Austin probably wouldn't have won the belt at Wrestlemania 14

Attitude99 01-22-2011 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky Fives (Post 3402954)
Austin probably wouldn't have won the belt at Wrestlemania 14

I'll doubt that, Austin was ready to become the megastar in the company at the time. But HBK woulda been amazing as heel working with vince against austin.

Lara Emily 01-22-2011 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky Fives (Post 3402954)
Austin probably wouldn't have won the belt at Wrestlemania 14

Austin was more than likely booked to win at Wm14 before HBK got hurt.

YoungFlyFlashy 01-22-2011 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3402722)
When Shawn Michaels hit the casket at Royal Rumble 1998, it pretty much sealed the first part of his carrer's fate, allowing him to take several years off and return to what was arguably the better part of his career.

However, what if it never happened, and he went over the casket, or landed flat-back on it? Would he have continued wrestling? Would he still have taken time off? Would he have been a bigger part of the Attitude Era? Would the second half of his career ever have happened?

There are many possibilities, so let's discuss them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Fugitive (Post 3402865)
Not if you believe the rumours about Rock despising Shawn. Oh, and this post from Rob.



Now, I do predict James may see this and feel the need to say something. To counter any argument about 'that quote's bullshit', I don't know if it's true, I don't know if it's false but either way, I don't care if that's fact or fiction. I would have liked to see Rock and HBK go one on one, however it's not going to happen with Shawn being retired and Rock having interests outside of wrestling and I hope we can agree that's a damn shame.

SN Before I Start: Shawn was never scheduled to drop the belt to Sid, he was suppose to drop it to Bret at WM 13.

I think about this quite often, and what always comes to mind is Stone Cold Steve Austin. I've always wondered how HBK would re-invent himself and DX. DX would of been HBK, HHH, Syxx, & NAO. I also believe that he would of either held HHH back, or HHH wouldn't of been able to avoid HBK's shadow, but either way a fall out among friends would of happened. Thus this causing HBK to once again be a loner, because I don't think HHH was as big of a dick as HBK was. I think HBK would of been great for the Austin & the Austin Era, horrible for DX due to the turmoil backstage between him and HHH causing a write off of the group, so NAO would never of been as popular as they ended up becoming. In my opinion, Shawn would of def been the leader of The Corporation, with The Rock playing second fiddle, but not for long because The Rock would of out shined him causing the writers to break them up. (I.E. Randy Orton & Evolution)

Before this gets out of control, because this is one of those topics that should def be brought up in real life, this would be great discussion with hours of dialogue. I believe the only wrestler that would of been drastically different from where they ended up without HBK being around, as far as their push or popularity is concerned would of been HHH, Chyna, the NAO, and maybe even Mick Foley. Austin & Rock were run away trains with no tracks at the end, it would of been IMPOSSIBLE to stop them.

The good that would of came out of it would of been a LONGER HBK & UT feud with both men in their PRIME, the conclusion of Austin & HBK, HBK vs HHH, Mick Foley vs HBK repeat of Mind Games, and of course The Rock vs HBK.

glanville6 01-22-2011 09:46 PM

If that happened...he'd still be a Hall of Famer, but he wouldn't be as loved by most people. Wouldn't be first ballot either. I agree with anyone who said without the time off, he'd be in shambles, maybe even dead.

CSL 01-22-2011 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hasney (Post 3402726)
He'd be dead from drugs and would have been te frat high profile victim. He would have had his breakdown earlier but gone to WCW when let go and continued getting high.

Probably this. Shawn was still out of his mind on drugs in 1999 and 2000, 2 years after getting off the road. Can't help but think that still going town to town would have exacerbated that.


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